2 September 2014
- Mary Wong
The next Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday 02 September 2014 at 1400 UTC
07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET
For other times: http://tinyurl.com/ldjmwzd
Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/ppsai/
Agenda:
- Roll Call/Updates to SOI
- Continue discussions on Category F Charter questions
- Next steps
Documents for Review:
Subgrouping of Cat F Questions per WG Definitions - 1 Sept 2014
MP3 Recording: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140902-en.mp3
Meeting Transcript: http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-ppsa-02sep14-en.pdf
Attendees:
Steve Metalitz - IPC
Graeme Bunton – RrSG
Griffin Barnett – IPC
Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG
Frank Michlick – Individual
Volker Greimann-RrSG
Don Blumenthal – RySG
David Heasley-IPC
Jim Bikoff-IPC
Alex Deacon – IPC
Chris Pelling – RrSG
Tobias Sattler – RrSG
Todd Williams – IPC
Kathy Kleiman – NCSG
Phil Corwin – BC
Justin Macy - BC
Susan Kawaguchi – BC
Kristina Rosette – IPC
Darcy Southwell – RrSG
Amr Elsadr – NCUC
Paul McGrady – IPC
Libby Baney – BC
Phil Marano – IPC
Holly Raiche – ALAC
Sarah Wyld – RrSG
Christian Dawson – ISPCP
Susan Prosser – RrSG
Victoria Scheckler - IPC
Apologies:
Lindsay Hamilton-Reid – RrSG
Stephanie Perrin – NCSG
Michele Neylon – RrSG
Carlton Samuels – At-Large
Sean McInerney – SOI pending
ICANN staff:
Mary Wong
Marika Konings
Amy Bivins
Maryam Bakoshi
Nathalie Peregrine
Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 02 September 2014:
Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the PPSAI WG call on the 2nd September 2014 at 14:00 UTC
Nathalie Peregrine:Hello Holly, dialing out to you now
Holly Raiche:Thanks
Tobias Sattler:Hi there
Chris Pelling:good afternoon all
Graeme Bunton:G'morning all
Kristina Rosette:Greetings. Apologies for being late.
Amr Elsadr:Hi. Dialling in now.
Nathalie Peregrine:Amr, attendance noted
Amr Elsadr:Thnx. :)
Nathalie Peregrine:Susan Kawaguchi has just joined
Nathalie Peregrine:Phil Marano and Vicky Scheckler are on the call
Nathalie Peregrine:Jim Bikoff is also on the call
Nathalie Peregrine:Paul McGrady is in the Ac room
Graeme Bunton:Nope!
Nathalie Peregrine:Griffin Barnett is also on the call
Nathalie Peregrine:Libby Baney has joined the room
Graeme Bunton:someone's mic needs to get muted
Mary Wong:Please mute your mics unless you're speaking - thanks!
Graeme Bunton:vigourous typing
Frank Michlick:who is typing next to their mic?
Chris Pelling:still typing :p
Nathalie Peregrine:Kathy Kleiman is on the phone bridge
Nathalie Peregrine:Operaor is tyring to isolate typionng noise
Nathalie Peregrine:please all mute mics
Nathalie Peregrine:and phones when not speaking
Chris Pelling:this quality of call today is pretty poor
Chris Pelling:lots of clicking
Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. I haven't gone through this document yet. Trying to read it now.
Nathalie Peregrine:@Chris, I'm on the phone bridge, but do not hear clicking
Nathalie Peregrine:would you like us to dial out to you to improve your line?
Amr Elsadr:I can hear the clicking too.
Nathalie Peregrine:ok let me see what the operator can do, as I cannot hear it.
Volker Greimann:the clicking is clearly audible on the Adobe audio bridge
Volker Greimann:now it is gone
Chris Pelling:Nathalie, no - but I was not the only one hearing it and it was annoying - right now its gone, thanks
Mary Wong:Following up on Kathy's question - the NCSG's suggsetion regarding considerations of anti-competitive activity and small business challenges is listed under the question relating to Safeguards (in this new document, Section II Question 3.)
Graeme Bunton:Often both, Steve
Libby Baney:I've heard use of the phrase "legitimate" request, and evaluate "on its merits." It is unclear to me what those terms mean. Where are they defined? Is it the charge of this group to establish the standard?
Volker Greimann:Difficult. Currently, our review gives us the necessary leeway to make a case-by-case decision.
Amr Elsadr:Is it practicle to try to standardize what is a "legitimate" request? Couldn't that vary according to the jurisdiction the P/P provider exists in?
Chris Pelling:All notices into us are case bny case, you cannot mask it down to a set of rules as things will fall through the cracks
vicky sheckler:in considering legitimate request, need to consider jdx of complainant as well
Chris Pelling:phone crackling is back
Holly Raiche:@ Chris - I thing that was my question - how hard will it be to understand base line istuations of disclosure
Nathalie Peregrine:Operator is working to isolate the line
Nathalie Peregrine:please all mute phones and AC room mics when not talking
Amr Elsadr:Does minimum standard = standard? I don't think so. A minimum standard would be required, but may not actually warrant a reveal. A strict standard would, wouldn't it?
Chris Pelling:very good point Kathy
Volker Greimann:we are back to the cracking noice on the adobe bridge
Paul McGrady:Sounds is going in and out.
Nathalie Peregrine:we're orking on it
Nathalie Peregrine:Working
Graeme Bunton:I'd have to ask compliance for a concrete answer
Volker Greimann:Addition: Anonymous complaints go directly to the bin. No response, no recourse!
Chris Pelling:gone all quiet
Nathalie Peregrine:There is no issue with the Ac audio, someone on the phone line was creating static, that person has now been muted and informed.
Chris Pelling:ill take my hand down
Chris Pelling:UDRP is there and the UDRP service will request a reveal
Chris Pelling:its to do with the "domain" not the content though
Chris Pelling:We siggest to the registrant that they seek professional advice
Chris Pelling:@Kathy
Chris Pelling:suggest *
Chris Pelling:thank you all :)
Holly Raiche:thanks steve
Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Very interesting discussion.