27 May 2014
- Mary Wong
The next Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday 27 May 2014 at 1400 UTC 07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET
For other times: http://tinyurl.com/nlm6uee
Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/ppsai/
Agenda:
- Roll Call / SOI
- Update from Transfers Sub-Team (Kathy & James)
- Review / finalise conclusion for Category C threshold +1,2 (see revised draft attached)
- Finalize conclusion for Category C – Question 3 (see template attached)
- Finalize conclusion for Category D – Question 1 (see template attached)
- Commence deliberations on Category D – Question 2 (if time allows, see template attached)
- Confirm next steps / next meeting
Documents for Review:
PPSAI Sub Team - Transfer Issues Report - 12 May 2014
Proposed Threshold Question Language - 27 May 2014
PPSAI - Category C - Question 3 - 21 May 2014
PPSAI Category D - Question 1 - 21 May 2014
PPSAI - Category D Question 2 - 26 May 2014
MP3 Recording: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140527-en.mp3
Meeting Transcript: http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-ppsa-27may14-en.pdf
Attendees:
Steve Metalitz - IPC
Kathy Kleiman – NCUC
Justin Macy – BC
James Bladel – RrSG
Alex Deacon – IPC
Laura Jedeed – BC
Sarah Wyld - RrSG
John Horton – BC
Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC
Volker Greimann – RrSG
Libby Baney – BC
Michele Neylon – RrSG
Chris Pelling – RrSG
David Cake – NCSG
Jennifer Standiford – RrSG
Christian Dawson – ISPCP
Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP
Don Moody – IPC
Darcy Southwell - RrSG
Graeme Bunton – RrSG
Don Blumenthal – RySG
Luc Seufer – RrSG
Phil Karnofsky (for Phil Marano) – SOI
Todd Williams – IPC
Jim Bikoff – IPC
Frank Michlick - RrSG
Apologies:
Holly Raiche – ALAC
Susan Prosser- RrSG
Paul McGrady – IPC
Kristina Rosette – IPC
Amr Elsadr – NCUC
Tobias Sattler – RrSG
Carlton Samuels - ALAC
ICANN staff:
Marika Konings
Mary Wong
Amy Bivins
Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 27 May 2014:
Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 27 May 2014
Chris Pelling:Afternoon all :)
Graeme Bunton:no no no, good morning!
Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all!
John Horton:I concur with the "Morning" voices. :)
Kathy K:Hi All!
Don Blumenthal:And "afternoon" for folks in Chris's part of the world.
Graeme Bunton:someone needs to mute a mic
Jennifer Standiford:Hello all
Volker Greimann:Hello, everyone in a good mood hope? ^_^
Mary Wong:Please remember to mute your mic if you are not speaking.
Bladel:Which James?
Terri Agnew:Libby Baney has joined
Kathy K:Our goal, mine and James, was to raise and define questions -- not to answer any of them
Terri Agnew:Michele Neylon has joined
Michele Neylon:I am here even though I sent apologies
Terri Agnew:Welcome Michele, I have adjusted attendance list
Terri Agnew:Frank Michlick has joined
Michele Neylon:telephone is working
Michele Neylon:the wifi here though is really bad
Michele Neylon:so if I get dumped out of Adobe I'll try to reconnect
Terri Agnew:Michele thank you for letting us know
Kiran Malancharuvil:Is the data escrow requirement the same in 2009 as 2013 RAA?
Graeme Bunton:Thanks James
Bladel:Not exactly.
Bladel:2009, registrars had a choice to include PP data in data escrow or declare to registrants that their names were at risk. IN 2013, this choice was removed and PP service data was included in escow deposits.
Luc Seufer:The flagging of domain name using p/p would help to that regard.We could imagine offering a p/p temporary set of contact details for the sole purpose of registrar transfers. The set of details would "expire" (the email address would stop forwarding) after a short lapse of time and would conduct to the suspension of the domain name. But we would need to make a second validation process initiation by the gaining registrar (in case the transfer goes through) and the (not) losing registrar (if the transfer doesn't go through).But I think this is quite outside our charter...
Luc Seufer:;-)
Kathy K:Does the AuthInfo code help, Luc?
Kiran Malancharuvil:Well, can the question be included in the framing of the questions?
Volker Greimann:reading lucs novel
Kiran Malancharuvil:What to do in the case of 2009 RAA signatories that made the choice not to escrow?
Kathy K:Agree - can we circle back to this?
Michele Neylon:we can get stats on 2013 vs 2009 signees
Kathy K::-)
Kiran Malancharuvil:Right, I'm just asking that it is included in the questions.
Bladel:Those names are at risk if hte registrar fails.
Michele Neylon:yes
Kathy K:Great - glad we can keep editing online!
Kiran Malancharuvil:we can continue the discussion about this part on the list.
Justin Macy:+1 to continue to edit on list
Laura Jedeed:+1
Mary Wong:We will try :)
steve metalitz:+1 Kathy, staff can handle this
Kathy K:Can we call it an ICANN-published list?
Kathy K:Would it be appropriate to ask a Registrar to list its accredited p/p providers?
Kathy K:e.g. on its website?
Bladel:Seems similar to current handling of registrar urls.
Mary Wong:@Kathy did you mean recommend that Registrars include a link to their Affiliated P/P providers (as defined in the RAA)?
Kathy K:@Mary, just raising it as a question for the Registrars...
Kathy K:and all
Luc Seufer:for those under 2013 it will be mandatory.
Luc Seufer:(or at least it's my reading)
Michele Neylon:is there text on the screen?
Mary Wong:@Luc, thanks - yes I should have said 2013 RAA (and wondering how that may apply if we are talking about linking to Affiliated versus "all ICANN-accredited) providers.
Don Blumenthal:Michele, the draft D1 is on the screen
Graeme Bunton:Michele's hadn is old
Graeme Bunton:hand, rather
Graeme Bunton:Michele would like to speak post James
Graeme Bunton:(but his adobe is not working)
Kathy K:James: what are the two parallel channels of communication? Sorry to miss it...
Bladel:one is public, "reasonable & prompt"
Bladel:One is for Law enforcmenet. monitored 24/7.
Kathy K:tx!
Kathy K:What James and Michele say makes sense.
Graeme Bunton:++tsunami
Michele Neylon:being able to filter the tickets makes sense
Kathy K:Learning from the 2013 RAA experience and opening up to various forms of communication to the p/p provider makes sense too
Michele Neylon:filter as in divy out to the correct places
Luc Seufer:and for the reccord, the LEA referred to are the one in the applicable jurisdiction.
Volker Greimann:I am very dedicated to convince you all that that is not what the word was intended to mean
Michele Neylon::)
Kathy K:We do need to allow time for investigation
Graeme Bunton:Agreed
Kathy K:Tx for the discussion today!
Chris Pelling:thanks all :)
Bladel:Thanks Don.
Luc Seufer:Merci Don!