18 March 2014
- Mary Wong
- Aleksey Khapchenko
The next Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday 18 March 2014 at 1500 UTC
Please all note that, the US will have started using Daylight Saving Time, so please check on the link below to make sure you have the right meeting time!
08:00 PST, 11:00 EST, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET (For other times: http://tinyurl.com/om8t5aq)
Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/ppsai/
Agenda:
- Roll Call/Update to SOIs
- Finalize template for Category B Question 2
- Commence deliberations on Category B Question 3
- Next Steps/Next Meeting
Documents for Review:
PPSAI - Cat B - Question 2 - Updated 17 March 2014
PPSAI Category B Question 3 - Updated 18 March 2014.doc (replacing PPSAI Category B Question 3 - 17 March 2014 due to additional NCSG input received via email from Kathy Kleiman)
Completed Templates (preliminary conclusions to be reviewed after deliberations are completed) :https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/WgHQBg
MP3 Recording: http://gnso.icann.org/en/node/44213
Meeting Transcript: http://gnso.icann.org/en/node/44239
Attendees:
Luc Seufer - RrSG
Volker Greimann - RrSG
Graeme Bunton – RrSG
Tim Ruiz – RrSG
Sarah Wyld – RrSG
Steve Metalitz - IPC
Kathy Kleiman – RySGgr
Darcy Southwell - RrSG
Don Blumenthal - RySG
Libby Baney - BC
Phil Marano – IPC
Griffin Barnett - IPC
Valeriya Sherman – IPC
Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG
Todd Williams – IPC
Roy Balleste – NCUC
Holly Raiche – ALAC
Susan Prosser – RrSG
Kristina Rosette – IPC
Paul McGrady – IPC
Justin Macy – BC
Maria Farrell – NCUC
Ben Anderson – RrSG
Jim Bikoff – IPC
David Heasley – IPC
David Cake – NCSG
Amr Elsadr - NCUC
Apologies:
Michele Neylon – RrSG
Stephanie Perrin- NCSG
Carlton Samuels – ALAC
Don Moody –IPC
Marie-Laure Lemineur – NPOC
Statton Hammock –RySG
Tobias Sattler - RrSG
Marika Konings - Staff
ICANN staff:
Mary Wong
Amy Bivins
Joe Catapano
Mike Zupke
Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect Chat Transcript:
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 18 March 2014
Paul McGrady:Good morning, afternoon, or evening, all.
Graeme Bunton:Good morning all
Kathy Kleiman:Hi All!
Val Sherman:Jim Bikoff and David Heasley also on the call
Mary Wong:Please remember to mute if you are not speaking; and especially to mute your computer if you are on the phone bridge/speaker phone.
Volker Greimann:we have some bad echo
Terri Agnew:Susan Processor has joined
Terri Agnew:Maria Farell has joined
Terri Agnew:Ben Anderson has joined
Terri Agnew:Luc Seufer has joined
Mary Wong:You should be able to scroll through the document.
Terri Agnew:Kristina Rosette has joined
Terri Agnew:David Cake has joined
Todd Williams:That's a fair characterization of what I argued, thanks Don.
Kathy Kleiman:Can Mary or Marika please list the sessions/times/places that Don mentioned for our meetings at the opening of this session? Tx!
Mary Wong:If it would be helpful, three distinctions to bear in mind: (1) "validate" vs "verify"; (2) the Registered Name Holder in a proxy service is not the "actual" customer but in fact is the service; and (3) the creation of a P/P accreditation program should apply regardless of whether the service may be affiliated with a Registrar under the 2009 or 2013 RAA.
Mary Wong:@Kathy - GNSO weekend update is scheduled for 17:15 Singapore time on Saturday; WG F2F meeting is scheduled for Thursday 27 March from 0900-1030 local time.
Kathy Kleiman:Tx Mary - perfect for distributing!
Mary Wong:Both in the Sophia Room - with RP facilities.
Luc Seufer:+1 Tim
Kathy Kleiman:+2 Tim, especially regarding the ability to take action for clear illegalities even as contact data being sought
Tim Ruiz:@Mary, and that we are only talking about validating and/or verifying data, not identities.
Mary Wong:Further to my note above, there will also be an ALAC session on Monday, from 1500-1700, to cover Registration Data Directory Services - which will also include a discussion of P/P services.
steve metalitz:@Kathy,how would that action be takenwithout being able to contact beneficial owner?
Kathy Kleiman:@Steve, it depends on the action, doesn't it? If it is spam, malware, etc, procedures for takedown or blocking can be pursued.
Terri Agnew:Amr Elsdr has joined
Mary Wong:The next question that Steve mentioned reads, in part: "3. What rights and responsibilities should domain name registrants that use privacy/proxy services have? What obligations should ICANN-accredited privacy/proxy service providers have in managing these rights and responsibilities?"
Graeme Bunton:Yep, good point Tim
Volker Greimann:that's what happens when you share an office
Paul McGrady:What is the ratio of registrars who remain under the 2009 agreement vs. 2013?
Volker Greimann:got it 2009, 3.12.4: In the event that ICANN makes available a program granting recognition to resellers that escrow privacy or proxy registration data as detailed above, and reseller meets any other criteria established by ICANN in accordance with its Bylaws, reseller shall be permitted to apply to ICANN for such recognition.
Tim Ruiz:@Volker, not sure exactly what that means or how it applies?
Mary Wong:@Paul, we will take that back to our colleagues allong with Tim's related question.
Mary Wong:@Kathy, the option to cancel the registration (though not explicitly the right to respond) is mentioned in relation to the quesitons in the Relay & Reveal categories.
Mary Wong:(if that helps orient the discussion)
Kathy Kleiman:@Steve - Transparency is key also.
Mary Wong:BC, IPC and NCSG have sent responses so far.
Paul McGrady:I have to leave for another meeting. Thank you all. I look forward to seeing many of you in Singapore.
Kathy Kleiman:Are there other services or analogies people would like to discuss?
Tim Ruiz:Thanks Don and all!
Kathy Kleiman:Bye All and Safe Travels!
Luc Seufer:Thanks Don
Phil Marano:Thank you, goodbye.
Graeme Bunton:thanks All