AC Chat: 2019-02-20 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

  Claudia Ruiz: (2/20/2019 12:39) Welcome to the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:00 UTC

  Claudia Ruiz: (12:39) https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/wATwBQ

  Joanna Kulesza: (12:52) Hi Claudia and all!

  Holly Raiche: (12:52) Greetings all

  Joanna Kulesza: (12:52) sounds like an old Motorola Wings text message:)

  Holly Raiche: (12:53) @ Joanna - too right!

  A-Eduardo Diaz: (12:54) What is the id for the telephone bridge

  A-Eduardo Diaz: (12:54) I am hearing another meeting in id 1638

  Claudia Ruiz: (12:55) @eduardo-3535

  A-Eduardo Diaz: (12:55) Announcement sent was incorrect. Will reconnect

  Holly Raiche: (12:56) @ Claudi - Maybe put that information on Skype as well - actually I"ll do it

  George Kirikos: (12:59) Hi folks.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (13:00) Hello all, welcome.

  Alberto Soto: (13:01) Hello everyone!

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (13:01) Hi all

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (13:01) We are all leaving the  TTF  call just finished

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (13:03) still in another call for 30 mins so AC / chat only

  Carlton Samuels: (13:03) Howdy all

  Holly Raiche: (13:04) You missed Lililan

  Holly Raiche: (13:05) Okay -

  George Kirikos: (13:06) EPDP final report just posted 10 minutes ago: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2019-February/001736.html

  Heidi Ullrich: (13:07) She is at a conference.

  Holly Raiche: (13:07) The name is Bachollet (check spelling)

  George Kirikos: (13:07) (redline and clean PDFs at the bottom of that email)

  Carlton Samuels: (13:08) That is recorded as "Divergence" in the published Consensus Sheet

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:09) Welcome Bartlett Morgan

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:10) Welcome Maria Korniiets

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:10) Welcome Greg Shatan

  Jonathan Zuck: (13:10) well RDAP is a difference, no?

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:12) Welcome Harold Arcos

  Greg Shatan: (13:12) RDAP is just a protocol/tool.  It all depends on what you do with it.

  Harold Arcos: (13:12) Thanks @Claudia

  judith Hellerstein: (13:12) I heard lillian's name mentioned

  judith Hellerstein: (13:13) @claudia can you make sure I am listed in the roll call

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:15) @Judith, you are listed on the participants list

  Lutz Donnerhacke: (13:16) European Registrants need to look at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__edpb.europa.eu_sites_edpb_files_files_file1_edpb-2D2019-2D02-2D12-2Dinfonote-2Dnodeal-2Dbrexit-5Fen.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=JNNt_lUD1TI0cFKD-N22sc7kUZGVIFGA_R8N2Bjiwr8&s=Ndrqy81IxSs8kIz3bI-PhPrSUpy9py0AfO5MFh5saoU&e= ... In short: If you are in the EU and use an UK based registrar: Change now.  The other way aroung: No problem.

  George Kirikos: (13:21) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_about_council&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=JNNt_lUD1TI0cFKD-N22sc7kUZGVIFGA_R8N2Bjiwr8&s=j6F5H_icHEZvK1OjxUOYbU7mwaPpWF-6SJoAepB8Vb0&e= Composition of GNSO Council not identical to composition of EPDP (e.g. no SSAC or GAC in GNSO Council).

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (13:22) it appears GNSO will not vote until March 4 now I will join audio now if you need more information... however there can be No Further delay on vote by GNSO Council on the Report pst that date to keep to timeline.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (13:24) the PC would be. Board one not a GNSO one ..

  George Kirikos: (13:25) Thanks.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (13:26) as Alan just started it could be bounced back if it wished to post PC likelihood ...hmmmm

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:28) Welcome Antonio Medina Gomez

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:30) Welcome Christopher Wilkinson

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:30) Welcome Justine Chew

  Holly Raiche: (13:30) The Temp Spec can only last a year

  George Kirikos: (13:31) Plan B (or C, D, E). :-)

  George Kirikos: (13:31) Right now, it's anarchy....e.g. see the WHOIS of LEAP.com (completely redacted, argh).

  Greg Shatan: (13:32) Trying to...

  Lutz Donnerhacke: (13:33) WHOIS is dead.  People move foreward to i.e. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__scotthelme.co.uk_say-2Dhello-2Dto-2Dsecurity-2Dtxt_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=JNNt_lUD1TI0cFKD-N22sc7kUZGVIFGA_R8N2Bjiwr8&s=7jXQeLpadwQ_aokOCBuC6FNKWbZ3GlEiHyQtaMZNW74&e=

  Alan Greenberg: (13:33) @George, that is due to the registrar you chose. My domains are completely redacted on the registry site and their in all their glory at my registrar.

  judith Hellerstein: (13:34) Can you sent a link to these statements

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:34) Welcome Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong

  George Kirikos: (13:34) @Lutz: that isn't a good alternative, because the WHOIS is supposed to be authoritative. Putting something on the web or as DNS records is non-authoritative.

  Alan Greenberg: (13:34) I will be submitting a comment on my own on Standards for Specific Reviews.

  Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (13:34) thanks @Claudia

  George Kirikos: (13:34) (since the website or DNS nameservers can be hacked, etc.)

  Lutz Donnerhacke: (13:35) We do have DNSSEC.

  George Kirikos: (13:36) @Lutz: DNSSEC won't help if the website is hacked, for security.txt. (also, not all registrars implement DNSSEC cheaply)

  Lutz Donnerhacke: (13:37) George: Current Whois contains almost no information anymore for the public. And the hidden information for the LEA, IP lawyers, etc. is heavily faked.

  George Kirikos: (13:38) (did the volume for Greg's audio get lower for anyone else?)

  Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (13:38) Yes

  Marita Moll: (13:38) Yes, but still works for me

  Lutz Donnerhacke: (13:38) If you want to avoid such developments,  prohibit Privacy Proxies, require open access to the Whois data, and - to keep in touch with local law - switch to ulta thin whois, which reveals the contracts down to the registrant

  judith Hellerstein: (13:39) @evin can you send a link to the two statements from ALAC on the budget. Thanks

  Greg Shatan: (13:39) I will dial in in the future....

  judith Hellerstein: (13:40) it was fine

  judith Hellerstein: (13:40) I think it is an issue with the ipad.  I have ahd this before

  Evin Erdoğdu: (13:40) @Judith sure will do

  Jonathan Zuck: (13:41) coal mine

  Claudia Ruiz: (13:41) Welcome Avri Doria

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:42) Thanks @Greg

  Heidi Ullrich: (13:43) Thanks, Evin

  Evin Erdoğdu: (13:43) ICANN64 Prep Week registration form: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_announcement-2D2019-2D02-2D14-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=JNNt_lUD1TI0cFKD-N22sc7kUZGVIFGA_R8N2Bjiwr8&s=_zFiiab0h-TOTiVZvW-4BNC6hCIGBfb7MZ93QRiADOY&e=

  Heidi Ullrich: (13:43) Please note there will only be ONE Policy webinar rather than two.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (13:44) Policy Webinar will be 28 February at 16:00 UTC

  Justine Chew: (13:44) @CLO, and me!

  Justine Chew: (13:44) But I have to prioritise SubPro (including WT5) :)

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:45) Indeed you DO @Justine

  Christopher Wilkinson: (13:47) The WT5 call on 27/2 is at 5.00 UTC.- If there is a conflict at that hour, I shall abstain.  ;-))

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:47) for a 60 min call 

  Tijani BEN JEMAA: (13:47) Ok for me

  Marita Moll: (13:47) And I will be in a very internet challenged area -- Cuba -- so unlikely to be attending next week

  Holly Raiche: (13:47) 1300 is okay

  Andrea Glandon: (13:47) Great, I will get that scheduled.

  Joanna Kulesza: (13:47) @Andrea please kindly note my apologies

  Andrea Glandon: (13:47) Yes, will do Joanna

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:48) Thx Andrea we need to watch new calls coming in now in popular rotation slots,  including ATRT3 now

  Andrea Glandon: (13:48) @Cheryl, noted, thank you!

  judith Hellerstein: (13:49) I think Carlton and Kali are our liaisons

  Justine Chew: (13:49) AI for ALAC?

  Heidi Ullrich: (13:49) for the CSC, yes, he is

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:49) I beieve you are correct @Greg

  Jonathan Zuck: (13:50) csc

  Heidi Ullrich: (13:50) The ALAC Chair is aware of the issue

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:50) Heidi raise this with Maureens ALT then

  Christopher Wilkinson: (13:50) When I can go to CSC it is in personal capacity. My interest in IANA and PTI goes back to the 1990's

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:50) aware is one thing action seems merited

  Joanna Kulesza: (13:50) thanks all

  Marita Moll: (13:50) By all

  Bartlett Morgan: (13:50) goodbye all

  Alberto Soto: (13:51) Thanks,bye bye

  John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO): (13:51) ty bye all

  Gordon Chillcott: (13:51) Thanks and bye for now.

  George Kirikos: (13:51) Bye folks.

  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (13:51) bye all

  Abdulkarim Oloyede: (13:51) bye

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3) 2: (13:51) Bye

  Evin Erdoğdu: (13:51) Thank you all!

  Harold Arcos: (13:51) bye bye,,,thanks all

  Lutz Donnerhacke: (13:51) cu

  Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (13:51) Bye