ALAC ExCom AC Chat 25.08.11

Seth Greene:ALAC EXCOM CHAT:  25 AUGUST 2011
  Marilyn Vernon:Carlton would you like a dial-out?
  Seth Greene:We'll let Adigo know about the problems on the Dakar Prep call today.
  Seth Greene:Hi, everyone.
  Evan Leibovitch:hi all. what a freakin' day it's been
  Evan Leibovitch:what numbers are you using, OCL? They don't seem to match the one posted in the screen here
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am using https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/G9juBQ
  Evan Leibovitch:Then what's that think in the upper right of this screen?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:that's the agenda
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:We're doing action items
  Seth Greene:Got it for next agenda.
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: Prioritization +1
  Evan Leibovitch:There is talk in NARALO about the possibility of RALOs designating one or more individuals each to be policy liaisons to advance RALO issues up the ladder
  CLO:Too little  to late I fear  for many Visa  issues
  Matt Ashtiani:http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/travel-summary-dakar-oct11-en.pdf
  CLO:and this is a C-T/ICANN  issue  NOT a MATT to fix problem  BUT   it will effect all  of the planning though so we need  to be aware
  Evan Leibovitch:whio decides "necessary" for Kurt to attend RALO mtgs?
  Carlton Samuels:@Alan: Why ask for a vote for those who DID NOT vote in NomCom?
  Carlton Samuels:OK. No vote, just an email...IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION!
  Alan Greenberg:Carlton, not my idea but something that was said would be done on the ALAC call.
  Carlton Samuels:@ALan: I know that Sir, I meant to say "echo" before your name
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: You finger's on the reason for the online connection challenges....bandwidth in some places IS a problem!
  Carlton Samuels:@Alan +1 Problem is not just money, very true
  Carlton Samuels:@Alan: "ecosystem" issues, very much so, especially when you understand the environments differ in Europe to Africa to Caribbean = time of day etc!
  CLO:Matt I pout  my habd  down  for brevity  sake  but  re the travellers DB  perhaps  you can not to the newbies in C-T  that MY travel arrangements  flights  etc,., are managed locally  from travelforce along with many other Aus based travellers  from Boards and staff etc.,  so  they do not have to arraneg my flights  I will get Geoff to forward copy of the arrangements when the notice comes  out to us  and that they need to arrange the acomodation etc.,  perdeiem  etc, to match  that  etc.,  this can be a standing  note in the DB  as I will still be in thr travellers list post Dakar in my capacity as ALAC's liaison to the ccNSO
  CLO:in fact as I mentioned  my flights had to be set  for my Visa app to go several weeks back now  * and  No I do not have either a Visa an update or a passport back* as yet  which  does not moot well for time taken to process as the predicted time taken to do so is now  well over....
  Seth Greene:Regarding the telephonic/interpretation problems on the AFRALO Dakar Events call earlier today (discussed earlier here), Heidi tells me we're already dealing with Adigo about them.
  Carlton Samuels:Its  max 3 days for quorum!
  Carlton Samuels:If we have quorum and the vote is decisive then we can move
  Evan Leibovitch:the suspence is killing....
  Carlton Samuels:If you have 8 votes already then it is decided!
  Carlton Samuels:remember it was a stacked vote; i.e. ranked!
  Evan Leibovitch:13 of 14 (remember Marc is gone)
  Carlton Samuels:@Matt: Ok. If the vote is close and 1 could be decisive then we have to let 72 hrs pass
  Evan Leibovitch:My origtinal request was XX hours (I recall 48) or a candidate getting a clear majority whichever comes first.
  Evan Leibovitch:can we know name of the winner of the one that wasn't close?
  CLO:Yes Evan  I had that beleif as well but the Chair  made it a 72 hr  time frame  ;-)
  Evan Leibovitch:I won't repeat my PoV on the SP process., so please understand my silence.
  CLO:Noted  Evan ;-)
  Evan Leibovitch:BTW, I never *did* hear what the tiebreaking process is. Is there a special ICANN coin?
  CLO:I would not be averse  to having the chat transcript  statement you made ioncluded inthe comments  we said  if others agree
  Evan Leibovitch:It would be interesting to know if there was any others on ALAC who agreed with my words but I won't press the issue.
  Alan Greenberg:Evan, for th Board vote, he ABSdt was supposed to tell people ahhead of time exactly what method they would use for the random selection Not sure if they did...
  Alan Greenberg:GNSO Mailing list - http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/
  CLO:Alan I would appreciate your input on this  attitude issue of GNSO
  CLO:Alan is there a way to get the awareness of the DRAFT  report  ( penultimate version at least)  out  to the GNSO COnstituencies ?/
  Evan Leibovitch:That turning poingt happened when the GNSO failed to support the MR2 and yet it STILL got on the radar of both the Board and the GAC
  Evan Leibovitch:+1 Alan... this needs real community oversight
  Evan Leibovitch:The problem is that, instead of a Google Doc or Wiki, the current version of the work-in-progress is a Word-format doc that is routinely updated and circulated.
  Evan Leibovitch:We can wikify one of the snapshots  or upload one of the word docs to Google, but that won't be the m,ost-current version on the go
  Carlton Samuels:@Evan: we can always freeze it, format to pdf and frame the provisos that inform approach to its use downstream
  Carlton Samuels:@Evan: 'wikify' works just as well!
  Carlton Samuels:Why do I seem to have a slow input from everybody?
  Alan Greenberg:Also important to point out that the final report is a careful balance of a LOT of conflicting requirements.
  Carlton Samuels:@Alan: +1 with the explanation
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:i am sufferign lag. Cheryl had already started talking when 4 seconds later her hand came up on the screen
  Carlton Samuels:@OCL: I've been experiencing this since Evan!
  CLO:the ALAC  Members also need to Come To the Sept ALAC Meeting with the Mandate from their Regions
  CLO:and any text  thay CAN be translated  sooner rather than later  should be considered as well
  Alan Greenberg:Xlation needs to know the priority is French and then Spanish. Other languages can come after.
  CLO:agreed  Alan
  Alan Greenberg:Much of it can be started next Monday
  Alan Greenberg:They need to understand the political importance.
  Carlton Samuels:@Alan: Re priority for xlation +1
  Evan Leibovitch:Long call? Before this call started I was in a 7-hour-long meeting... :-P
  CLO:So the ALAC  can send the Acadamy proposal as  supported In Princiapal as a Concept and to Go To The NXT Step
  CLO:yes follow up in Dakar when we meet with Filis
  CLO:If they take funds for such pre-registration  then yes it is a snake oil sales issue   we need tio get formal discussion going  though as apralo  MAY nit HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT AT ALL
  CLO:Sorry CAPS
  CLO:YUP  agree totally with CS  APRALO  would  make that distinction as well
  CLO:this is exactluy why a ciscussion Debate  to happen   it would be better to be in a Wiki soace  and  brought back to the RALOs  via ALAC  asking for that to get going
  CLO:in APRALO many of our countries  would have VERY different  deffinitions  of 'consumer fraud' issues  and indeed  different cultural views ofn agent operations  and assistance
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: Absolutely - proxy services is  a pertinent analogy here!
  CLO:yup
  CLO:little would get done in parts of Asia and Ociania  IF  agents  were NOT used  
  CLO:but  here we know  what is expected   and that neds to be "discussed"
  CLO:the green fields approach IS  the issue  yes
  Matt Ashtiani:@clo - no prob
  CLO:LOL
  CLO:You do have a GOOD Team  OCL  thanks  for noting it...
  CLO:Bye  all