Zoom chat: 2023-09-06 At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)

00:17:52    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    In the absence of the Draft African DNS market report, I was doing some work on the African markets comparing the gTLD website counts with the AFTLD.org ccTLD domain name counts. There's a serious problem with registrar infrastructure that will affect applicants in the region.
00:18:44    Gopal Tadepalli:    Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
00:19:08    Michael Palage:    @John could you share your research?
00:20:03    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @Michael Will e-mail some of the spreadsheets. Also posted the Africa ccTLDs/gTLD counts to the mailing list.
00:22:21    Michael Palage:    Thanks John, I will go look for your emails. Look forward to reviewing it
00:24:02    Jonathan Zuck:    No further discussion
00:24:13    Jonathan Zuck:    Need me to go back in?
00:24:35    Jonathan Zuck:    Reacted to "Need me to go back i..." with 
00:25:59    Bill Jouris:    Obviously an alias
00:26:07    Hadia Elminiawi:    Welcome Cheryl
00:26:37    Greg Shatan (NARALO):     (from Maureen, in absentia)
00:26:59    Natalia Filina:    Reacted to " (from Maureen, in..." with 
00:27:00    Michael Palage:    I am rocking a 3 AM start today - feel and respect your previous pain Cheryl :-)
00:27:26    Raymond Mamattah (Eng), Ghana:    Replying to "I am rocking a 3 AM ..."

Wow. Great sacrifices
00:30:12    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    Replying to "I am rocking a 3 AM ..." 

 The future belongs to those who get up early
00:35:35    Roberto Gaetano:    Reacted to " (from Maureen, in..." with 
00:37:18    Michael Palage:    Reacted to " (from Maureen, in..." with 
00:38:14    Jonathan Zuck:    Metrics Man!
00:39:16    Mouloud Khelif:    Reacted to "Metrics Man!" with 
00:40:02    Jonathan Zuck:    Should we discuss the questions that have the greatest degrees of concern instead of looking for individual input?
00:40:09    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    Reacted to "{DDE14CD4-3555-428E-9616-56DF54193FAF}.png" with 
00:46:53    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    Extremely interesting and comprehensive update, Cheryl. Many thanks!
00:47:25    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    the CPWG work on this has been most rewarding actually and thanks to all that have been able to contribute
00:49:10    Jonathan Zuck:    Will do!
00:49:50    Jonathan Zuck:    Dillusion and minimums were two recs
00:50:20    Hadia Elminiawi:    Reacted to "Will do!" with 
00:50:31    Greg Shatan (NARALO):    I agree with Jonathan.  No participation trophies!
00:50:55    Jonathan Zuck:    Reacted to "I agree with Jonatha..." with 
00:51:07    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    Reacted to "I agree with Jonatha..." with 
00:53:07    Jonathan Zuck:    Were's blue that you're not, Chris
00:53:17    Bill Jouris:    Replying to "I agree with Jonatha..."

Anyone whp *needs* a participation trophy probably shouldn't be participating in the first place.
00:57:58    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Could always use the Internet Archive to archive the links and link to those.
00:59:23    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    Good night everybody thank you for the great effort
00:59:40    avri doria:    Was listening to the call, and was somewhat concerned about how changes are controlled over time and are prevented from drifting policy wise.
00:59:44    Mouloud Khelif:    Reacted to "I agree with Jonatha…" with 
01:00:37    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Indeed Avri it is something we need to watch carefully (glad you agree with our take ;-)
01:02:15    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    I will be joining another meeting  (but staying in this one of course  at the top of the hour so forgive my only partial attention.
01:02:23    avri doria:    Do AGB xrefs changes need to be blessed by the Spirt?
01:03:06    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    only if they are deemed significant  under the flow chart we are building...
01:03:25    avri doria:    then it seems covered
01:04:08    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    The Holistic Review TOR PDP discussion, that is.
01:04:17    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    the flow charting took way longer than they thought it might and we will be looping back agan later in IRT
01:05:41    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Re Holistic Review ToR PC  PLEASE link to the NEW ToR as well as the webinar that was held along with the ancient history that is on the wiki page
01:09:41    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    Noted, Cheryl, re the HR TOR PC.
01:12:04    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    The 'local community' is defined as *part of* the term 'Significantly Interested Parties' (see Framework of Interpretation for RFC 1591 from ccNSO archives)
01:13:29    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    any dilution of the importance OF  Significantly Interested Parties  *AS defined in the FOI*  is NOT a good idea in MY very biased view
01:18:08    Hadia Elminiawi:    +1 Cheryl to the importnace of  significantly Interested parties, who are necessary for the endorsement of any ccTLD string
01:21:50    Hadia Elminiawi:    @Cheryl Langdon-Orr and @Michael Palage I agree that in the past that was not necessary the case, going forwrad this is how it should be
01:23:35    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    I should add that I agree with Cheryl --- the Framework of Interpretation (FOI) demonstrated the sensitivity of the topics relating to "Significant Interested Parties"
01:23:48    Hadia Elminiawi:    5.2.1 Definition of Significantly Interested Parties. Significantly Interested Parties include but are not limited to: 1. the government or territorial authority for the Territory associated with the IDNccTLD string and 2. any other individuals, organizations, companies, associations, educational institutions, or others in the Territory that have a direct, material, substantial, legitimate, and demonstrable interest.
01:24:20    Hadia Elminiawi:    to be considered a Significantly Interested Party, any party other than the government or territorial authority for the Territory associated with the selected IDNccTLD must demonstrate that it has a direct, material, legitimate and demonstrable interest in the operation of the proposed IDNccTLD(s).
01:26:24    Jonathan Zuck:    is there a comment link?
01:26:52    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102667235/At-Large+Workspace+ccNSO+Proposed+Policy+for+a+Specific+ccTLD+Related+Review+Mechanism
01:28:34    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    and welcome to the lovely world of UTC =7-10 Time Zones Michael
01:28:47    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    +7-10
01:29:07    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    The deadline for submission is 28 September. So the ALAC vote should be 20-28 September.  The final text should be with staff by 20 September.
01:29:32    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    Michael, would you like to have time on next week’s CPWG to have a final review?
01:29:32    Betty Fausta:    Reacted to "and welcome to the l..." with 
01:29:53    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    Noted.
01:34:22    mmoll:    Thanks all for great presentations. Have to head out.
01:35:03    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    great  early finish!  Bye for now then...
01:35:06    Natalia Filina:    Thanks to all, great call
01:35:12    Jonathan Zuck:    Just a reminder that we won't be bringing anything up with the board that isn't discussed and agreed on amongst ourselves so raise it sooner, rather than later.
01:35:17    Sivasubramanian M:    Thank you all !
01:35:20    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Thanks and later all.
01:35:27    Natalia Filina:    Reacted to "Just a reminder that..." with 
01:35:30    Betty Fausta:    Thanks everyone. Bye
01:35:36    Hadia Elminiawi:    Thank you all bye for today
01:35:40    Gopal Tadepalli:    Thank you all. Very nice presentations. I have a lot to catch up. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University
01:35:58    Dave Kissoondoyal - ICANN ALAC:    Thanks and bye to all
01:36:01    Hadia Elminiawi:    Thank you all for being with us today
01:36:02    Judith Hellerstein:    By all
01:36:02    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    Many thanks, All!