ALAC ExCom AC Chat Transcript 2012-11-21

  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ALAC ExCom call on Wednesday 21 November 2012 at 2000 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacexcomm/pages/106041522/ALAC+ExCom+2012.11.21+Teleconference
  Gisella Gruber-White:Only Carlton to join shortly but we are ready to go
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am now on the call
  Evan Leibovitch:stepping away for 1 min to grab a coffee... you DON'T want me in this meeting uncaffeinated
  Evan Leibovitch:ok, back
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-) :-) :-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:211112 :-) :-) :-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I do like the balance  in the date
  Evan Leibovitch:we are definitely on track for R3. The PCP has been publicized in David's policy update, and it actually went out on ICANN's official Twitter feed
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yep saw that yesterday my time
  Alan Greenberg:ATRT2 endorsement is not on this agenda.
  Carlton Samuels:HOwdy everybody
  Carlton Samuels:I got in a little later than expected
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that makes sense the (c.c.) to CS and HR
  Policy Host:Hi All, Policy Host is Heidi...
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:great work Tijani :-) :-) :-)
  Silvia Vivanco:Cannot hear Tijani very faint
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it would be good if Rinalia  could hold the ALAC AP spot and Holly the Regional one... I will raise this in the RALO Meeting next week I will now (after a few years ;-) withdraw
  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Denise!
  Denise Michel:Hello
  Policy Host:Hi Denise
  Policy Host:Welcome
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Could I note for the record that at the ccNSO Council meeting  this week the ALAC   Statement  on ccTLD IDNs PDP  was noted as useful and appreciated ...
  Carlton Samuels:Bad sound
  Policy Host:ALAC analysis of the WHOIS RT recs: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-11sep12-en.htm
  Evan Leibovitch:speakerphone in a very large and squeaky room
  Carlton Samuels:Hearing better
  Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you Denise - much better!
  Carlton Samuels:yes, thanks
  Policy Host 2:Board Resolution on Whois RT Recs: To read the Board resolution on WHOIS, go here: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-08nov12-en.htm#1
  Denise Michel:Just to make sure the group has the Board's WHOIS resolution, rationale and supporting materials:http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/meetings http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-08nov12-en.htmhttp://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/briefing-materials-1-08nov12-en.pdf**in particular, page 8 on of the last document details Board action on each of the 16 WHOIS Review Team recommendations.
  Evan Leibovitch:A "CEO Working Group" ... Is this a new concept?
  Evan Leibovitch:Maybe the TMCH meeting was a beta test of that format.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:bad beta test, IMHO
  Policy Host 2:Carlton is the Chair of the At-Large WHOIS WG
  Carlton Samuels:@Evan, that is exactly what gave me Seems like it!
  Gisella Gruber-White:Olivier disconnected on phone bridge - joining shortly again
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:back on
  Gisella Gruber-White:Olivier is back
  Policy Host 2:Thanks, Denise!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and I've been cut ouch!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:darn
  Gisella Gruber-White:Olivier - we will call you again
  Policy Host 2:One comment submitted to date: http://forum.icann.org/lists/asep-recommendations/
  Evan Leibovitch:Up to date... but still confused.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:yes agree from me in Alans approach on this
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:we need clarification on the interpretation issues here as the PDP -WG worked under a different assumption than may have been correct when tested
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:disagree the. INTENT was clear the interpretations  are now fuzzy
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:I do not support the Rinalia. reviewed doc under new ij fo
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:we need more info
  Carlton Samuels:I need to read the reviewed doc but from what is said here, the ALAC cannot act on the basis we trying to be nice to registrars
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:agreed
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:short version  yes we have to make a statement
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:we need to stick to facts
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and to our convictions
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:more detailed check on interpretation OF the facts then draft
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:In many ways the comment /complaint in working may have done us a favour  IMO
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:working should have read wording
  Tijani:She is on the C
  Evan Leibovitch:http://tinyurl.com/aanls3e -- Robin Grosws comments on the TMCH meetings
  Policy Host:Alan, Evan, have you been invited to that meeting on Monday on TMCH?
  Policy Host:Alan, how long will you need on the ALAC meeting?
  Evan Leibovitch:yes ... direct conflict with the ALAC gTLD WG ... I've already sent my regrets about the meeting
  Evan Leibovitch:regrets to the gTLD WG
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:I'm  with you on this Alan
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2: think NCUC / SG is just fearful of change  and 'leverage opportunities '
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:remembering their common contributions are minority reports--- BUT a clear and transparent  ( dare I say accountable)  process for these intervention processes dDOES need to be created and acceptable  to all
  Policy Host:At-Large Activities at Baku - including a reports page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/At-Large+Activities+at+the+IGF+in+Baku+-+November+2012
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Tijani -- please update on AFRALO workshop
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:until I get dialled back in
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:hand up for APRALO WS please
  Evan Leibovitch:Olivier, yours was hardly a "short" report. It was very well done and gave a goos sense of the meeting
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and then Cheryl please
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:i can listen through ADIGO but not speak
  Evan Leibovitch:back on about baku
  Matt Ashtiani:thank you!
  Matt Ashtiani:my pleasure!
  Carlton Samuels:I have to drop off folks.  I need to go do a family chore
  Evan Leibovitch:bye!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:cut off again!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Alan - go ahead please
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I can listen through ADOBE
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I can hear you
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:how was it run last time?
  Evan Leibovitch:I think this is something that can't be done on this call.
  Policy Host:AI: The ExCom to ask for two At-Large seats on the ATRT Part 2
  Policy Host:Cheryl, I have that in my notes
  Policy Host:re Baku/Rinalia
  Evan Leibovitch:I assume, no discussion today's on the sick situation in LACRALO
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:been disconnected
  Policy Host:Do you want a dial out, Cheryl
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:back on
  Policy Host:Welcome back, Cheryl
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:do enjoy your welleqrened break over next couple of days then especially  with the Policy meetings
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:oad following
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr 2:thanks. OCL thanks all
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks everybody
  Policy Host:Good call. Thanks, all.