ALAC ExCom 30.08.12 AC Chat

  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ALAC ExCom call on Thursday 30 August 2012 at 1500 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/vA9SBg
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi Julie
  Julie Hammer:Hi Cheryl and Everyone!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:impressed you are here while your travelling
  Julie Hammer:It's 1700 in beautiful Luxembourg!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:nice  glass of something bubly in hand
  Gisella Gruber-White:Action Items ALAC 28.08 Meeting: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/FufuBQ
  Gisella Gruber-White:ALAC ExCom Meeting Action Items: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/pg9SBg
  Heidi Ullrich:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/alacexcomm/ALAC+ExCom+07.08.12+Action+Items
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It should NOT be a parallel session.
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Evan - your line is not muted on the bridge
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Apologies, I have to run to another meeting.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye Rinalia
  Gisella Gruber-White:Evan stepped away - he should be back on audio
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:bye rinalia
  Carlton Samuels:BYe Rinalia
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/meetings
  Heidi Ullrich:Evan is not muted. We are trying to contact him.
  Heidi Ullrich:Evan, Adigo confirms you are on the bridge unmuted.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I agree Alan tweek the letter
  Carlton Samuels:@Alan: +1
  Evan Leibovitch:Sorry... I should have used the "step away" icon on AC
  Matt Ashtiani:At-Large Policy Development Page - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAeBg
  Evan Leibovitch:Olivier, you sound like you're talking from under a paper cup
  Evan Leibovitch:lawsuit city
  Matt Ashtiani:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/YS0eBg
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Alan for updating the page.
  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Olivier!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Much better
  Julie Hammer:Much better
  Evan Leibovitch:from paper cup to tin can
  Alan Greenberg:deprived, depraved....
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:both yes
  Heidi Ullrich:ALAC meeting agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99551183/ALAC+2012.08.28+-+Monthly+Teleconference
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:WTF!!!
  Evan Leibovitch:the NCSG logic is simple... impede
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: WTF x2!!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Evan any input  I have NIT seen that discussd as a Member of NCSG
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and YES  I do read the list traffic
  Evan Leibovitch:It has been a little on the list, but not in depth. The NCSG has in the pased siascussed and expressed its dislike of the entire report
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:my poit is that has NIT been done on list  but I missed last teleconference
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:NIT  = NOT btw
  Evan Leibovitch:Its even worse. The NPOC people are generally in favour but are being shouted down by the NCUC side
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:actually NCUC has  NCSG   has nit  I thought
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes  thiay is exacltly my oint
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Point
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we have too few individual NCSG Members to assist  atm  as it looks like you join NCUC  to get Membership of NCSG   the way the application is diceptivly written
  Evan Leibovitch:My point is that the ALAC is entitled to say what it wants regardless of the GNSO position, and maybe we should make clear that we do not consider this all policy stuff
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Agree  Evan
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:TOTALLY  agree
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:point it OUT  clearly
  Carlton Samuels:@Evan: YES, ALAC must say its piece regardless.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:its BEEN through an ENTIRE  (ICANN wide) process  YES
  Carlton Samuels:But I support Alan's call to address the GNSO shout-out substantively so the analysis is complemented!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes  Agree Carlton absolutly
  Matt Ashtiani:CS: I agree with Alan. The ALAC should be on record with its own views on this issue. We should do a comparative analysis and send it to the Board as well. There are two tracks: contnue what we are doing now and then follow up with the analysis as Alan suggested. This will help us reinforce our point.
  Evan Leibovitch:This is a stalling tactic driven by two components of the community ... contracted parties that dont want to endure the expense to implement and the NCUC that just likes obfuscated WHOIS
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:not  GNSO  Policy requiring a PDP  
  Evan Leibovitch:OK Alan, I get what youre saying. +1
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:underline  LARGE  FONT BOLD  yes  make it CLEAR
  Julie Hammer:I seem to have lost audio
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Adobe  or phone Julie?
  Evan Leibovitch:I can her the tin cup that sounds like Olivier
  Heidi Ullrich:Julie, we are sorting it out with Adigo.
  Julie Hammer:I am having very intermittent sound.  I think the hotel wi-fi has maxed out!
  Heidi Ullrich:You are on the AC room Julie. Would you like a dial out?
  Julie Hammer:Thanks Heidi, much better now!
  Heidi Ullrich:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99541803/At-Large+Toronto+Meeting+Agendas
  Matt Ashtiani:Sunday - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/N_juBQ
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:even internet connectivity is poor here. That's unbelievable!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes they need to be the RIGHT people  and BRIEFED
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: +1 in all aspects
  Evan Leibovitch:Ive heard a rumour that some ICANN people will be in Toronto soon. I'll try to have some people ready for them.
  Heidi Ullrich:I can comment on all of this.
  Heidi Ullrich:+1 Cheryl re Baku ALS
  Heidi Ullrich:Evan, I've not heard re the Toronto visit. I've not been contacted regarding local ALSes.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:agree Alan  perfect to push the occassionsl Summit plan
  Heidi Ullrich:The EURALO GA at the EuroDig has been confirmed.
  Evan Leibovitch:BTW, I have seen Alan's Machiavellian hat. It's very functional.
  Matt Ashtiani:Friday - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/i_juBQ
  Evan Leibovitch:Heidi, there have been the weekly meetings about NARALO participation which will include substantial participation by the local ALSs.
  Alan Greenberg:OK, I'm dropping off now. Evan and Carlton, see you on the Thick Whois call.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok Thanks Alan
  Alan Greenberg:And Cheryl on the MADT/DMDT Prep call
  Evan Leibovitch:OK re: FC WG
  Evan Leibovitch:Itĺl be pretty simple
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes yellow features in this packing set  for Toronto
  Matt Ashtiani:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/5ejuBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:question pages:
  Matt Ashtiani:Compliance - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/S4-xBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:GAC - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/aI-xBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:ICANN Board - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/z47xBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:Global Partnerhips - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/ZY-xBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:Communications Dept. - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/0Y7xBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:Participation and Engagement -  https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/Yo-xBQ
  Matt Ashtiani:At-Large Topics for Public Forum in Toronto Workspace - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/RI-xBQ
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Matt.
  Heidi Ullrich:No Meeting with the GAC, btw...
  Heidi Ullrich:No formal meeting...
  Evan Leibovitch:traffic/transit issues will probably prevent me from making it to the venue before 07:45 most days
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it is usually the tart of the wrap up that he bog standard stuff happens  so the VC/s  can run the meeting *I would have thought*
  Julie Hammer:I am getting almost no audio on Adobe Connect now, just a couple of words every now and again.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:be bandwidth Julie  you might see a small color bar at  top  section  if green you have full bandwidth might be yellow or red  hn you loose the audio
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I also see delay on Adobe
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Julie - there must be an issue with your internet connectivity
  Carlton Samuels:I have to run now.  I need to get a few things done before on the Thick WHOIS DT Call
  Julie Hammer:Only colour bar I can see is microphone...and it's green all the time.  
  Carlton Samuels:See y'all and thanks
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:often up near the word HELP
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye Carlton
  Evan Leibovitch:Compliance compliance compliance
  Julie Hammer:Aha!!  It is white and says 'connection status poor'
  Evan Leibovitch:the movement has been within at-large
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:there you go that is the caus
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:cause
  Heidi Ullrich:Are you in agreement  that I should present in two parts: 1) Policy; 2) Process?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes  works for me
  Heidi Ullrich:Process - 1) completion of ALAC Improvements; 2) ROP revision; 3) RG activities
  Heidi Ullrich:Policy: 1) Whois? 2) Work on complience (?); 3) ??
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks. Very useful.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hell yes  do the advert for NARALO
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Woo WHO!!!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:YEA
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, all. A long, but useful call!
  Julie Hammer:Bye everyone
  Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye (for now)  
  Heidi Ullrich:bye!