Zoom chat: 2020-11-04 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

11:49:07 From Captioner Marie Fresch : The Streamtext for this session is: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
11:51:40 From Claudia Ruiz : Welcome to the Consolidated Policy Working Group call
12:01:04 From Evin Erdogdu : Hello all, welcome!
12:02:01 From Claudia Ruiz : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
12:02:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : some of us are also still in IGF sessions
12:02:36 From Vanda Scartezini : hi everyone…
12:03:17 From Roberto : @CLO - just switched from there
12:03:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : from the RTT link ....Thank you. Meeting has been adjourned. Please take care.
12:04:06 From hadia Elminiawi : Hello all
12:04:07 From Claudia Ruiz : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
12:04:35 From Vanda Scartezini : hi everyone I will have one hour from now th Former board members meeting with the Board.
12:04:51 From Evin Erdogdu : See ALAC Members: https://atlarge.icann.org/alac/explore-profiles
12:04:53 From Vanda Scartezini : welcome to new members
12:05:15 From hadia Elminiawi : Welcome Pari
12:05:23 From Holly Raiche : Welcome to you both
12:05:24 From Joan Katambi : welcome all our new members
12:05:24 From Evin Erdogdu : Welcome, Pari
12:05:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : welcome @Pari
12:05:52 From DTECH ECUADOR : Saludos/ Regards desde Ecuador Diego Acosta Bastidas CULTURA LIBRE Y SOFTWARE LIBRE DEL ECUADOR
12:07:44 From betty fausta Guadeloupe : bienvenue @Pari
12:08:18 From Claudia Ruiz : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
12:08:40 From Claudia Ruiz : Link updated in wiki also
12:09:39 From Evin Erdogdu : Thanks Claudia :)
12:11:29 From Marita Moll : @Olivier -- to the extent that one can "hear" silence
12:12:21 From Judith Hellerstein : Sorry I am late, was at an IGF session that I was moderator and rapporteur
12:12:23 From Roberto : The sound of silence
12:13:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : darn @Roberto, now Simon and Garfunkel are soundtrack in my mind!
12:13:51 From Chokri Ben Romdhane : yes it was really a long meeting, but few news
12:13:51 From Roberto : @CLO unavoidable…. :-)
12:14:02 From Maureen Hilyard : I know what you mean Cheryl.. its going to be sitting there all day now..
12:14:26 From Marita Moll : It's a lovely song -- enjoy it!!!
12:15:33 From Roberto : It looks like my spellchecker is working faster than my typing
12:17:38 From hadia Elminiawi : Jonathan I am available to talk about my session
12:18:27 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome Joanna!
12:18:39 From Claudia Ruiz : Welcome Joanna
12:19:05 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : hi all.apologies for arriving late
12:19:14 From hadia Elminiawi : Hi Joanna
12:21:53 From Marita Moll : I agree with Holly, the vibe was a little different this time. More information and stats available, more places for positive discussion
12:26:15 From Vanda Scartezini : we have any item for discussion ?
12:26:41 From Holly Raiche : More on the regulation theme following OCL’s session?
12:27:34 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : I wonder whether there is any interest in digging more in regulation at EG IG level? Perhaps a convergence of topics?
12:27:46 From Evin Erdogdu : Noted, thanks Joanna
12:28:01 From Judith Hellerstein : Yes. Alex was amazing
12:29:12 From hadia Elminiawi : Thanks Joanna
12:29:56 From Holly Raiche : Laureen (sp?) would be great
12:30:48 From Roberto : Laurin
12:31:16 From Holly Raiche : Thanks Roberto - she was REALLY good on the session I range the ICANN meeting before this one
12:31:36 From Holly Raiche : (sorry- ran - not range)
12:31:45 From Evin Erdogdu : Noted
12:33:27 From Holly Raiche : Good suggestion on Bertrand
12:33:36 From Marita Moll : I was at that Internet & Jur. mtg as well. I agree that we should look some interactions.
12:33:50 From Evin Erdogdu : Sure :)
12:33:57 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : @Seb please note Bertrand explicitly excludes ICANN jurisdiction from the score of his project.
12:34:22 From Vanda Scartezini : sure Joanna
12:34:48 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : *scope
12:35:15 From Sébastien Bachollet : Not sure @Joanna when they talk about DNS abuse run by registries and registrars in ICANN
12:35:23 From Marita Moll : @Joanna -- do you know why ICANN is excluded?
12:35:38 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : Leon = Leon Sanchez :-)
12:36:00 From Sébastien Bachollet : From the web site of I&J
12:36:03 From Sébastien Bachollet : 2020

The Domains & Jurisdiction Program is currently working to help develop legal interoperability around cross-border DNS-level action to address abuses in two dimensions:

Interoperability between actors: to enable automation of the technical workflow among public authorities and private actors across borders to ensure due process at scale.
Interoperability between norms: to reduce the potential of conflicts in rule-setting, implementation, and enforcement among different regimes.
12:36:45 From Sébastien Bachollet : And I would like to add the question of the participation of end-users in I&J
12:37:08 From Chokri Ben Romdhane : It was a great session and one of few news in this meeting congrats Hadia
12:38:36 From Marita Moll : Thanks @Seb. I noticed that Martin Botterman was listed as participant -- so ICANN is there somewhere
12:39:18 From Marita Moll : or maybe he was listed as an attendee
12:39:34 From Evin Erdogdu : Noted
12:40:28 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : :-)
12:40:43 From hadia Elminiawi : I was not great either
12:40:47 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : @Marita the original argument was that ICANN operates based on contacts as opposed to general principles of law that are focal to the project.
12:42:18 From Marita Moll : Thanks @Joanna. Interesting -- unfortunately (or fortunately), these two things interact
12:42:52 From Holly Raiche : @ Marita and Joanna - interesting discussion worth much more time
12:43:03 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : @Seb always happy to welcome Bertrand to any of our meetings. Regardless of the scope of his project ;) that was just a formal heads up (the description seems to point to cross boarder liability but I'm looking forward to Bertrand giving us an explanation).
12:43:29 From Roberto : @Marita they interact, but there is no guarantee that general principles are reflected in contracts
12:43:32 From Holly Raiche : (and remember, while ICANN is not part of Bertrant’s brief, he was on the ICANN Board
12:44:03 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : That was my reason for not getting more involved with the project @Marita but always happy to get insights and updates
12:44:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bertrand would be interesting to engage with again
12:44:14 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : bravo Sébastien!
12:44:37 From Holly Raiche : Totally agree with CLO - Bertrand is always such good value
12:45:17 From Roberto : I am not sure that Bertrand has much spare time - but definitively worth trying
12:45:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : pleasure @Joanna
12:46:54 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : watching brief makes sense to me @Joanna
12:48:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : as do I @Greg
12:48:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : thus watching brief makes sense
12:48:36 From Vanda Scartezini : hope bertrand becomes interested
12:49:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : VERY limited application of Ruggie!
12:49:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : as it should be *limited*
12:50:12 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : your input during the session is deeply appreciated @Greg , thank you again
12:50:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : lots of thankless work in that of course @Greg
12:50:53 From Holly Raiche : Greg is breaking up[
12:50:59 From Vanda Scartezini : we lost him
12:51:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : lost audio
12:51:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : LOL
12:53:26 From Chokri Ben Romdhane : thank you all have a good night
12:53:37 From Greg Shatan : I have done nothing for the last 24 hours but watch TV.....
12:54:07 From Greg Shatan : We got shut down because we followed the rules. NCSG just started it and give it a catchy name....
12:55:47 From Vanda Scartezini : I will leave in 5 minutes to attend Board + former Board, so my apologies no to continue to attend
12:56:15 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : indeed @CLO, happy to keep my finger on the WP pulse
12:57:30 From Greg Shatan : I think CLO’s approach is a good one.
12:58:39 From Greg Shatan : Also, what Alan said.
12:58:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : well said @Alan huge time hole
12:58:52 From Greg Shatan : I am forming a consensus of 1.
12:59:06 From Roberto : Will also leave, same call as Vanda
12:59:27 From Sébastien Bachollet : Bye for now
12:59:39 From hadia Elminiawi : Bye Sebastain
13:00:54 From hadia Elminiawi : @Joanna great
13:01:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : let us know if you need oxygen support dear canary
13:01:53 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : thank you @CLO, you know I always do. Thanks for being there!
13:03:49 From Claudia Ruiz to Abdulkarim Oloyede (Privately) : Hi Abdulkarim, do you have anything to share on the screen?
13:04:50 From Evin Erdogdu : At-Large workspace for Recommendations for Early Warning for Root Zone Scaling: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/jYoeBg
13:05:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : can not hear
13:05:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : your audio is spotty JZ
13:06:05 From Greg Shatan : JZ your connection is unstable.
13:07:08 From Evin Erdogdu : Thank you Alan, noted
13:07:13 From Holly Raiche : Agree with Alan - I am interested in the IRTP since I was on the earlier WG
13:07:33 From Holly Raiche : (Inter-Registry Transfer Policy
13:08:00 From Evin Erdogdu : Thank you Holly, noted
13:10:12 From Holly Raiche : It is a follow up -= the implications of GDPR on the process
13:11:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : exactly @Alan
13:11:59 From Holly Raiche : Actually- there are three scenarios as to who starts the transfer - and how to ensure authenticity of the s=whole processes
13:11:59 From hadia Elminiawi : can volunteer as well with Alan and holly
13:12:10 From Evin Erdogdu : Thank you Hadia, noted
13:13:14 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : :-)
13:14:33 From Maureen Hilyard : It certainly didn't come from me!! I have specifically asked the current participants to remain with the EPDP
13:16:15 From betty fausta Guadeloupe : not sleeping
13:16:21 From betty fausta Guadeloupe : just silent
13:16:46 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : this group never sleeps!
13:17:02 From Hanan khatib : good timing
13:17:32 From Hanan khatib : thank you all
13:17:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : noted re next week
13:18:06 From Holly Raiche : The timer Sydney is 0700 - which is great
13:18:12 From Maureen Hilyard : This is 10am for me.. which is fine
13:18:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : SubPro are just ploughing through the comments atm
13:18:20 From Evin Erdogdu : Thanks all!
13:18:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : nothing new
13:18:27 From Marita Moll : Bye all and thanks
13:18:31 From hadia Elminiawi : Thank you all bye for now and goodnight
13:18:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : bye for now
13:18:35 From Maureen Hilyard : but in central and South Asia it isn't too great a time
13:18:36 From betty fausta Guadeloupe : bye all
13:18:48 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : Thanks all