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Zoom chat: 2022-11-30 ​​At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)

Zoom chat: 2022-11-30 ​​At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)

00:20:47    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Hi all, welcome
00:22:15    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:22:26    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Yes, we can hear you clearly
00:22:57    Hadia El Miniawi:    Thank you
00:23:06    Gopal Tadepalli:    Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
00:23:51    Alan Greenberg (ALAC):    I'm on another call right now but will be here as soon as I can.
00:25:29    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org:    Alan will join as soon as possible. He is on another call.
00:26:30    Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org:    Alan is on the call
00:26:39    Sarah Kiden:    @Olivier, I’m attending the IGF remotely but yes, good idea to push the item to next week
00:28:03    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:28:06    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Evening/Afternoon/Morning all. Apologies for being late.
00:32:05    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Hand up by Sivasubramanian
00:33:11    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Best to weigh in on the side of the registrant and require a positive consent from the registrant.
00:33:21    Jonathan Zuck:    Seems like the registrars have been pushing back against affirmative confirmation the whole time
00:34:24    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    I'm with removing the Fao, and refusing this new proposal, since this will impact the period of the transfer
00:35:22    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    as an end user we have to reduce this period
00:36:03    Alan Greenberg (ALAC):    I'm on now.
00:37:18    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Some resellers don't use the registrant's e-mail as the admin e-mail contact for domain names. This gets into a new and very murky area on transfers.
00:39:16    Holly Raiche:    In the end, are we not arguing that the registrant must have an opportunity to stop a transfer.  But addressing Siva, is it  possible to make rules for registrars internal processes
00:39:31    Sivasubramanian M:    Thank you Michelle.
00:39:59    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Hands up by Holly then Alan
00:43:17    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    in my opinion the major achievement of the WG during the phase 1 is removing this FAO
00:44:03    Holly Raiche:    Agree with Alan
00:45:39    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:52:11    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Sorry about my audio
00:53:26    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Phrase the question clearly then
00:54:28    Gopal Tadepalli:    People had their domains stolen or hijacked and even 5 days is actually not enough for most folks to stop an illegal transfer. They could be on vacations or just not checking their email. The 5 day waiting period is just there for your security. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
00:55:24    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    We need positive consent from the losing registrar/registant.
00:55:39    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    strawman is for loosing verification back in  Yes
00:56:35    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Question is  if you do NOT want to have the verification back in then make a tick or hand jesture
00:57:52    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    This is confusing. Is the tick for the positive consent from the registrant to the transfer?
00:58:09    Jonathan Zuck:    Yes. Tick is for positive consent
00:58:26    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    no the tick is for NOT having it
00:59:30    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Really confusing.
00:59:39    Holly Raiche:    Steinar’s statement said the tick is for affirmative consent
00:59:41    Bill Jouris:    That's how I understood the tick
00:59:47    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Agree with JZ
00:59:48    Hadia El Miniawi:    I also thought the tick supported the strawman
00:59:49    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    SO a tick is NOW  FOR the strawman
01:00:06    Dave Kissoondoyal - ALAC:    +1 JZ
01:00:29    Holly Raiche:    YES
01:00:32    Hadia El Miniawi:    +1 to the affirmative consent
01:00:41    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Positive consent for a tick.
01:01:48    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    20 green ticks counted
01:03:32    Jonathan Zuck:    Where is it supposed to happen?
01:03:53    Steinar Grøtterød:    I take the 20 “greens” and announce this to the TPR PDP WG meeting tomorrow
01:04:03    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    great. Bearing in mind the number of support staff, interpreters and observers, this is a good number.
01:04:32    Jonathan Zuck:    The meeting to decide the agenda of the meeting to prepare for the meeting about the meeting has taken place.
01:04:32    Steinar Grøtterød:    Agreed @Olivier
01:05:56    Sivasubramanian M:    What f 2 f meeting is Greg talking about?
01:06:26    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Think it is one in Washington?
01:08:22    Gopal Tadepalli:    To expedite the transfer, you will need to contact the losing registrar and ask them to approve the transfer. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
01:08:28    Jonathan Zuck:    “On the advice of counsel….”
01:10:09    Jonathan Zuck:    Just started
01:10:50    Greg Shatan:    F2F of Closed Generics Small Group in Washington, DC in January.
01:11:29    Sivasubramanian M:    Thank you John & Greg
01:31:39    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Keeping two sets of data in synch is going to be fun.
01:32:29    Jonathan Zuck:    Indeed, @JM
01:35:51    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @CW It might be an idea to get registrars to publish those announcements rather than ICANN as few end users even realise that ICANN exists.
01:36:09    Holly Raiche:    Support the addition
01:36:17    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    No objection
01:36:53    Jonathan Zuck:    thanks
01:37:17    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Staff will update the ALAC statement as agreed
01:42:03    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Webinar - Subsequent Procedures Operational Design Phase Assessment (SubPro ODA) | Weds., 14 Dec., 13:00 UTC & 20:00 UTC
01:42:17    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-hosts-community-webinar-on-new-gtld-subpro-oda-22-11-2022-en
01:43:26    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    The times of the proposed sessions may likely change depending on when the EPDP-IDN sessions are
01:51:32    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Here is the link to the plenary topics Jonathan is presenting: https://icann.wufoo.com/reports/plenary-session-topic-proposals-76
01:53:30    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Sorry have to leave for another meeting now
01:53:46    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Thank you for joining
01:56:32    Claire Craig:    Sorry I have to leave now.
02:00:24    Gopal Tadepalli:    @ Jonathan Zuck: Topic 3: Information is only one of the aspects of "Human Connection" to improve the Multistakeholder Model? Should it be WSIS++20. - Dr.  T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
02:00:57    Jonathan Zuck:    YES! Everyone should try attend that so we can discuss!
02:02:17    Holly Raiche:    Sorry - have to leave now
02:04:26    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Please note Real time transcribing has disconnected from the meeting, thank you.
02:05:06    Hadia El Miniawi:    Thank you Christopher
02:07:03    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Cheryl has left the meeting
02:07:12    Jonathan Zuck:    My guess is that the objections would come from EU
02:07:14    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    That was one of the concerns we had as well, Olivier, thank you for asking. We want to share the burden
02:07:28    Jonathan Zuck:    We can pick this back up
02:08:11    Jonathan Zuck:    Thanks all!
02:08:38    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Thanks and later all.
02:08:45    Alan Greenberg (ALAC):    1300 is midnight in Australia. 14 is 1 am
02:08:49    Dave Kissoondoyal - ALAC:    Thanks and bye to all
02:08:53    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Thank you all
02:09:07    Gopal Tadepalli:    Thank you.
02:09:09    Roberto Gaetano:    bye all