Webinar on Accountability and Transparency - 14.05.2013- AC Chat

  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the At-Large Webinar on Accountability and Transparency on Wednesday 15 May 2013 at 1900 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/l_7uBQ
  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, All!
  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hi
  Garth Bruen:@BrianCute, the .ORG book provided in the last swag is exellent!
  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Brian!
  Yaovi Atohoun:Hi all
  Brian Cute:Thank you Gisella.  Happy to be here!
  Heidi Ullrich:Hi, Yaovi
  Yaovi Atohoun:@Heidi: Listening with my computer speaker for now. Waiting  to be called
  Carlos Vera - ISOC Ecuador:Hola Carlos Vera ISOC Ecuador
  Evan Leibovitch:On the AC audio, but not dialed in through Adigo
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ yaovi - we are calling you
  Heidi Ullrich:Yaovi, wei'll have Adigo dial out to you
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Yaovi - French or English channel?
  Yaovi Atohoun:English please
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Yaovi - you will be on the English channel shortly
  Yaovi Atohoun:@Gisella - Thank you
  Brian Cute:Having audio problems.  Trying on Adobe.
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Brian - US dial-in US:800.550.6865 Passcode 1638
  Heidi Ullrich:Brian, would you like a dial out?
  Brian Cute:having difficulty.  is there a dial in number?
  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Yaovi
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Brian: US dial-in US:800.550.6865 Passcode 1638
  Yaovi Atohoun:@Gisella and Heidi -I am on phone now . Thanks
  Brian Cute:I believe I am on now and happy to join after Cheryl.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Brian - I'll call upon you immediately after Cheryl :-)
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:is there anyone here who were part of the Whois RT or SSR RT?
  Heidi Ullrich:Questions to the Community on Accountability and Transparency within ICANN - http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-02apr13-en.htm
  Heidi Ullrich: At-Large Accountability and Transparency Review Team 2 Workspace - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TransRev/pages/98467909/At-Large+Accountability+and+Transparency+Review+Team+2+Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich:ATRT 2 wiki page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=96207139
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Affirmation of Commitments: http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/aoc/affirmation-of-commitments-30sep09-en.htm
  Brian Cute:Glad you liked the book Garth!
  Yaovi Atohoun:Question: do you think that many people will send feedback using just the Public Comment procedure ?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:It is hoped that there will be input in this
  Evan Leibovitch:There will be at least _some_ feedback from At-Large members. in the public comment period
  Yaovi Atohoun:@Evan -  Sure
  Brian Cute:That's very welcome Evan.  ATRT2 will also have a structured interaction with At-Large in Durban.  And there are emails through which inputs can be made to ATRT2 on the site.
  Garth Bruen:The link in the wiki for "Questions to the Community on Accountability and Transparency within ICANN" does not go anywhere
  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Workspace on ATRT 2 questions to the community: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102643527/At-Large+Questions+to+the+Community+on+Accountability+and+Transparency+within+ICANN+Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich:@Garth, the PC page is on the At-Large workspace just above
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: the survey - under personal information, a question is asked "What region do you live in?" - the regions that can be picked in the survey aren't the ICANN regions - specifically - "South America" is listed as a region and not "Latin America and the Caribbean"
  Evan Leibovitch:I have to step away from the audio for a few minutes but am still here on AC
  Garth Bruen:@Heidi, the link under Statement Name just reloadds the same page.
  Holly Raiche:What is Brian's book?
  Heidi Ullrich:@Garth, does this URL open: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-02apr13-en.htm
  Garth Bruen:@Holly, it was a big hardboard glossy which gave great overview of the Internet developmet
  Heidi Ullrich:@Garth, I see what you mean on the At-Large Workspace...
  Holly Raiche:@ Garth - thanks
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:back in AC
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and I'm excited OCL
  Heidi Ullrich::)
  Garth Bruen:@Heidi, for the sake of clarity it should link here: http://www.icann.org/about/aoc-review/atrt/community-questions-02apr13-en.pdf
  Heidi Ullrich:Garth, please scroll down a bit on the Workspace: Important Information LinksPublic Comment Announcement
  Heidi Ullrich:you will see the link to the PC
  Heidi Ullrich:Matt has confirmed this is how all PD pages are set up
  Garth Bruen:@Heidi, it's gotto be at the top if you want to capture interest
  Yaovi Atohoun:not yet
  Heidi Ullrich:@Garth, you raise a good point
  Heidi Ullrich:I will bring it up to the ExCom/ALAC.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:PARTLY onplemented  Brian
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:implemented  should read
  Garth Bruen:It shoudl be easy to review the questions before taking the survey
  Evan Leibovitch:back on audio
  Garth Bruen:The first question refers to the ATRT1., but it's not linked.
  Garth Bruen:Hard to see how people can give an assessment without quick access to the details
  Garth Bruen:Ditto on question 2
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:all details should be linked from the PC page. Perhaps could we have Matt beef up the At-Large PC page, with links to the ATRT1 + AoC + ATRT2 workspace, + SSR RT report + Whois RT Report?
  Garth Bruen:Presenting (as part of the survey) the ATRT1 recommendations FIRST and asking for a 1 - 10 rating on each might provide more guidance and better interest.
  Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier, I believe Garth is referring to the actual survey itself
  Garth Bruen:All links are "somewhere"
  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large ATRT1 Workspace: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TransRev/pages/98467911/At-Large+Accountability+and+Transparency+Review+Team+1+Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich:Final recs of the ATRT1: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/98467842/ATRTFinalRecommendations123110.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1294045624000
  Garth Bruen:You're asking survey takers to do their own research and digging? This does not work.
  Garth Bruen:It should be simple. Question: "Is this a red square?"
  Holly Raiche:@Garth - agree.   So the important thing is, on our policy wiki, links to both surveys, with recommendations to start and a link to the survey at the end
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I read the latter
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: how well they were implemented  we could have comments on the former
  Holly Raiche:And isn't it part of thecomment process to gauge how well implementation has occurred?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes it is Holly
  Matt Ashtiani:i can have a chat with Olivier and Alan to discuss this issue
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:happy to help Matt
  Heidi Ullrich:Is the information being requested not one for the PC itself rather than the At-Large PC workspace?
  Heidi Ullrich:If At-Large is requesting more information, wouldn't other communities need the same info?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:OUT  workspace
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:OUR
  Garth Bruen:@Brian, first "tool" get someone who has condcuted surveys and is trained to draft them. This is actually a VERY specific skill.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sorry still dark here
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:indeed it is Garth VERY
  Evan Leibovitch:Brian, we will be submitting comments, however the comment that has been authored is rather "over-arching" and may not fit into any specific of the subgroups. I hope that will not impede its ability to be considfered by RT members.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:too late by then Holly
  Holly Raiche:Okay - will do a communication sooner - Heidi - maybe a webinar for APRALO?
  Brian Cute:Thanks Garth.  Got it.  Evan, the over-arching comments would be welcome.  There will e later opportunities for comments later in the year.
  Garth Bruen:The questions are too long. It needs to be something someone can read and then BANG give an opinio on.
  Holly Raiche:And yes - AP time for once
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:So just to be clear - what is the deadline for RALOs to submit possible answers to the questions asked by the ATRT2 ?
  Garth Bruen:@Alan, true, but that is not survey data
  Garth Bruen:Meaning,  unormatted comments are not survey data
  Brian Cute:Agreed!!
  Evan Leibovitch:Brian, as we speak the statement I have referred to has been sent to <comments-atrt2-02apr13@icann.org>. I am unaware of any other method to submit.
  Evan Leibovitch:sent to comments-atrt2-02apr13@icann.org
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Noted that - the questions in ES for eg : http://www.icann.org/es/about/aoc-review/atrt/community-questions-02apr13-es.pdf
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:FR : http://www.icann.org/fr/about/aoc-review/atrt/community-questions-02apr13-fr.pdf
  Darlene Thompson:I have to run - chat with you all soon
  Holly Raiche:Careful!
  Garth Bruen:I think it is difficult to solicit feedback from the regions in this format
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:A issue (minor) re: survey : Re: the survey - under personal information, a question is asked "What region do you live in?" - the regions that can be picked in the survey aren't the ICANN regions - specifically - "South America" is listed as a region and not "Latin America and the Caribbean"
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Deadline is end of the Month of May. Say 31st May.
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'm referring to the the online survey at https://limesurvey.icann.org/index.php/survey/index
  Garth Bruen:Let alone from the general public
  Brian Cute:Good observation Cheryl thank you.
  Brian Cute:No it was not.
  Brian Cute:We will bring back to ATRT2.
  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you
  Holly Raiche:Thanks
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks to all of you on the ATRT2
  Yaovi Atohoun:Thanks
  Heidi Ullrich:Thank you!
  Matt Ashtiani:thank you all!
  Evan Leibovitch:Well, I have sent the piece (and confirmed the submission). Whether the listening to it takes places will be seen :-)
  Brian Cute:Thank you all!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone, take care all
  Carlos Vera - ISOC Ecuador:Saludos y gracias buena reunion
  Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you all - Gracias a todos - Merci a tous