AC Chat: 2018-08-15 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

  Yesim Nazlar: (8/15/2018 12:18) Welcome to the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call taking place on Wednesday, 15 August 2018 at 13:00 UTC

  Yesim Nazlar: (12:18) Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/APTvBQ

  Evin Erdoğdu: (15:49) Hello all!

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:53) Hello all

  Holly Raiche: (15:53) Hi Dev

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:54) Hi

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:55) On mobile so I’m hopefully silent

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (15:58) Hi

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (15:59) I can be on for one hour then i am on a ISOC Board call

  Holly Raiche: (15:59) @ Dev - we actually hope you won't be silent!

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (15:59) sounds like a washing machine

  Jonathan Zuck: (15:59) Glenn, up for drafting a section of the subproc comments?

  Alberto Soto: (16:04) Hello all!

  Alberto Soto: (16:05) Yes, in the Spanish chanel, Alberto Soto

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:06) I would have thought Maureen was an apology as well as she is tied up in Vanuatu for APrIGF

  Jonathan Zuck: (16:06) she's listed

  Satish Babu: (16:06) Yes, Maureen is in the list of apologies.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (16:08) Action Items 2018-08-08: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/hrXxBQ

  Bastiaan Goslings: (16:11) Hi all sorry for being late - got stuck in traffic

  Satish Babu: (16:11) Edit support is a welcome step....

  Yesim Nazlar: (16:11) Welcome Bastiaan!

  Nadira AL-Araj: (16:13) hello all

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:13) Ouch!

  Satish Babu: (16:13) :-)

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:13) but SOOO True !!!

  Holly Raiche: (16:13) Should now be Queen's English!

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:15) Jon  I got a message from  Eduardo that is willing to help as a penholder as well.

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:16) I can't lead the section as penholder but happy to help. I am a bit busy with ISOC Subcommittees right now

  Evin Erdoğdu: (16:16) Thanks Glenn

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:18) Is there a list of issues where ALAC hasn’t reached consensus on ? In a manner similiar to the slide 3?

  Satish Babu: (16:18) I can help out too, provided there is enough time...(I'm already committed to the IDN comment, which should be complete by 3 Sep). So, count me in if there's time until after this date.

  Jonathan Zuck: (16:19) @Dev Anand Teelucksingh: yes

  Justine Chew: (16:19) Agree with Holly's point on metrics

  Bartlett Morgan: (16:19) dropping off Adobe Connnect. Will continue via phone

  Yesim Nazlar: (16:20) noted Bartlett!

  Holly Raiche: (16:22) @ Jonathan - I"ll look a he early work on what we originally asked for in merics for consumer trust/choice

  Yesim Nazlar: (16:23) @All: Please don't forget to state your names before speaking. Thank you!

  Yesim Nazlar: (16:24) Thank you Jonathan :)

  Holly Raiche: (16:24) Good suggston

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:24) That would be *most* welcome IMO

  Holly Raiche: (16:24) sorry - suggestion

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:25) Anyone from At Large in UASG ?

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:25) they could be reached?

  Satish Babu: (16:25) I'm part of the UA-Discuss list

  Satish Babu: (16:26) But I agree someone like Edmon would be great

  Jonathan Zuck: (16:26) Satish, could you hold the pen on this?

  Satish Babu: (16:26) Thanks Jonathan, I can confirm after the session/briefing that was just mentioned

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:27) Well Edmon is a vice chair of UASG

  Holly Raiche: (16:27) Maybe Chris W could hold the pen?

  Heidi Ullrich: (16:28) @Jonthan, from Eduardo in the At-Large Community Chat: Jonathan: I can be a penholder for some of the items. Is it a place a can go an put myself for some of them? I am not going to be able to attend todays call.

  Holly Raiche: (16:29) I don't feel strongly about this issue

  Marita Moll: (16:31) I had volunteered to help with this one but don't feel confident enough to be penholder

  Marita Moll: (16:32) Sure wouldn't mind a partner

  Abdulkarim Oloyede: (16:32) I would like to help with this but not penholder

  Marita Moll: (16:32) Okay, let' go with that

  Nadira AL-Araj: (16:32) i will help Marita

  Yrjö Länsipuro: (16:35) I could help, too

  Evin Erdoğdu: (16:35) Noted @Yrjö, and thank you all!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:38) A very *important point* Alan

  Jonathan Zuck: (16:38) just the company with the most TLDs

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:39) Deffinatly people saying they shouldn't

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:39) rampant agreement!!!

  Holly Raiche: (16:40) I"l hold the pen

  Bastiaan Goslings: (16:40) I will work on this one too

  Justine Chew: (16:40) @Jonathan, I had the same thought as you!

  Evin Erdoğdu: (16:41) @All please specify which topic you are volunteering for

  Holly Raiche: (16:41) Thanks Bastiaan

  Bastiaan Goslings: (16:41) I will work on PICs too

  Holly Raiche: (16:41) I was volunteering for PICs

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:42) It also helps if the time stamps exist in the Chat *as I thought we had previously stated they should do in all our  hats* in ALAC

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:42) chats not hats

  Bastiaan Goslings: (16:44) I volunteered for PICs - but would like  to learn more about the 'fees' topic, so I guess I have been voluntold to work on that one as well. Fine ;-)

  Holly Raiche: (16:44) Do we care???

  Justine Chew: (16:44) Yes, I am in favour of continuing rounds.

  Yesim Nazlar: (16:45) @Cheryl: time stamps are already enabled since the beginning of the call

  Nadira AL-Araj: (16:45) +1 for rounds

  Jonathan Zuck: (16:46) just looking for clarity on the question

  Kaili Kan: (16:46) I don't think we have enough evidence on rounds vs. continues new gTLDs.  Thus, hard to make statements on this.  If so, maybe not to comment.

  Kaili Kan: (16:48) Also, I do not see the relation to end-users' interests.

  Gordon Chillcott: (16:50) I take your point, Alan.  But I still have my doubts

  Kaili Kan: (16:51) If there is a contest period for x months after each application for new gTLDs, it may work OK.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:53) Good idea and it needs to be done a hell of a lot better perhaps ;-)

  avri doria: (16:53) i have alwasy supported strong applicant support programs.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:54) need to find that line

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:54) Thx

  Marita Moll: (16:55) I also support applicant support but not sure how this would be implemented. Need to consider possibilitieis.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:56) Yes that is a question we need feedback on

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:56) Sorry  i can't stay, i need to be on another call starting very soon

  Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:56) bye

  Justine Chew: (16:57) By the way, one of the questions in assessing Applicant Support is about metrics

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:57) Bye Glenn did you mention Eduardo's offer to pen hold something?

  Alberto Soto: (16:58) If Cheryl, Glenn mentioned it

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:59) ahh good

  Justine Chew: (16:59) I will penhold for Applicant Support if no one else does.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:00) Thx Justine

  Justine Chew: (17:00) Great, Sebastian, thanks!

  Marita Moll: (17:00) Okay, I will help iwith the applicant support

  Alberto Soto: (17:01) I will work on Applicant Support

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:01) Excellent :-)

  Sebastien: (17:01) OK I will give the name to Justine for Applicants requestion support in the last round

  Justine Chew: (17:02) I think we should look the questions on Objections

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:02) As someone who wasn’t able to attend past CPWG calls - any question re: objection process?

  Justine Chew: (17:02) and possibly Community Applications

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:02) plenty to get on with

  Nadira AL-Araj: (17:05) i will help on community application

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:05) Thanks Nadira

  Greg Shatan: (17:07) Hello all.  Apologies for late arrival.

  Yesim Nazlar: (17:08) Welcome Greg!

  Marita Moll: (17:08) To staff: please don't forget to add my name to participants list. Thanks

  Alberto Soto: (17:08) Sorry, I must leave the meeting, Thanks!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:08) Bye Alberto

  Greg Shatan: (17:08) I’ll take Alberto’s seat.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:08) the hot seat

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:09) I am listening to the live streams

  Justine Chew: (17:09) @Nadira, I'll work with you on Community Applications. Since it's not a topic that has received consensus, let's start a thread for comments?

  Holly Raiche: (17:09) I am reading what has been going on

  Justine Chew: (17:09) I will do the same with the Objections questions.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:09) That will be a boon  I would push for Alternates to join the main AC

  Kaili Kan: (17:10) I have a doctor appointment and have to leave early.  Sorry!

  Nadira AL-Araj: (17:10) Sure Justine

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:10) Bye Kali

  Jonathan Zuck: (17:10) Wow

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:10) @All, please ensure that you are familiar with the information posted at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e= .

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:10) there are breakout rooms in Adobe Connect

  Holly Raiche: (17:10) Bye Kaili

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:10) Our speakers should be joining in 5 mins.

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:11) Theresa has joined.

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:11) Welcome, Theresa.

  Theresa Swinehart: (17:12) Hi Heidi, thank you!

  Theresa Swinehart: (17:14) As Alan mentioned, to confirm on Monday's community leader's call we read Alan's update on the RDS review and posted it in the chat.

  Sebastien: (17:17) Thanks Alan

  Satish Babu: (17:18) Bye Kaili

  Alan Greenberg: (17:19) @Seb, to be clear, at one point we thought that GDPR would have a huge impact on our work and even our ability to carry out tthe review. But it was far less than we originally imagined.

  Justine Chew: (17:25) @Sebastian: audio link https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_mssi_mssi-2Dgdpr-2Dcommunity-2Dleaders-2D13aug18-2Den.mp3&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=E7jdPGtwydtJZUxWWrvGsm2WJwb1La08zVtbmjjk3KQ&e=

  Theresa Swinehart: (17:25) the link to the community webinar can be found here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e=

  Jonathan Zuck: (17:25) Thanks Justine!

  Theresa Swinehart: (17:25) and the specifically the link that Justine posted :-)!

  Justine Chew: (17:26) AC recording link https://participate.icann.org/p65jm2z6cv7/

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:26) Thank you, Theresa and Justine. The main resource page was sent to the CPWG members is also posted on the CPWG workspace.

  Bastiaan Goslings: (17:27) See also https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e=

  Holly Raiche: (17:34) Excllent - thanks

  Justine Chew: (17:34) +1 on making AC streaming of EPDP meetings for observers

  Holly Raiche: (17:35) Maybe put the links in an email to ALAC

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:35) @Holly, we can do that.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:36) See: Information on the Temp Spec at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e=

  Jonathan Zuck: (17:37) Yay RDAP

  Holly Raiche: (17:38) The really sad thing was that when ICANN considered adpting RDAP,, they did not requie the use of the provision of gaed access hat was part of he functionality of RDAP

  Holly Raiche: (17:38) sorry - gated

  Holly Raiche: (17:40) Which means ALAC needs to firm up a position on the Unified Access Model

  Holly Raiche: (17:41) No- butthanks to hem both

  Holly Raiche: (17:42) sorry - thanks to them

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:44) Thanks for joining us Theresa nd Marika...

  Heidi Ullrich: (17:46) Thanks, everyone!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:46) LOL indeed JZ

  Theresa Swinehart: (17:47) Thank you all for the invitation to join.

  Tijani BEN JEMAA: (17:47) The unified Access model is in my understanding the wide framework for access to non public data that will permit for several accreditation models for different parties who will need to access

  Justine Chew: (17:47) Thank you, Theresa and Marika.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:47) Thank you, all!

  Marika Konings: (17:47) Thanks all!

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:47) Noted Tijani, thank you!

  Theresa Swinehart: (17:48) @Tijani, and all thank you for the questions.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:48) 2018 ALAC Policy Comments & Advice: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102656987/2018+ALAC+Policy+Comments+Advice

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:50) At-Large Workspace: ICANN Seeking Community Feedback on Proposed Unified Access Model - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/JXMeBg

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:50) At-Large Workspace: IPC/BC Accreditation & Access Model for Non-Public Data v1.7 (note: not a formal public comment) - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/EXMeBg

  Greg Shatan: (17:52) I’m happy to review the next UAM and see if there’s anything there.

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:52) Thank you @Greg, noted

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:53) We tend NOT to comment on LGR PC's

  Satish Babu: (17:54) Agree on the LGRs.

  Greg Shatan: (17:54) Has anyone identified an end-user issue in the LGR PC’s?  Even for those in the relevant LGR script space?

  Evin Erdoğdu: (17:55) At-Large Workspace: Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/sXYeBg

  Justine Chew: (17:55) Traditional versus simplified characters

  Greg Shatan: (17:56) Discretion is the better part of valour.

  Satish Babu: (17:57) @Greg, At-Large community members are involved in the LGR development space...

  Satish Babu: (17:57) However, it is very specific to the script, and without knowledge of the script, its pretty hard to participate.

  Jonathan Zuck: (17:58) Agree Satish

  Greg Shatan: (18:00) I have a hard stop at 11 am EDT.  Goodby all!

  Holly Raiche: (18:00) Bye Greg

  Justine Chew: (18:00) Gotta drop off now to prep for RPM call.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (18:00) thx for joining Geeg

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (18:01) Bye for now... more next week :-)

  Marita Moll: (18:01) Thanks.

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (18:01) thanks Jonathan, all - take care

  Evin Erdoğdu: (18:01) Thank you all!

  Satish Babu: (18:01) Thanks all, and bye!

  Gordon Chillcott: (18:01) Thanks and bye for now