AC Chat: 2018-08-15 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call
- Yesim Saglam
- Aleksey Khapchenko
Yesim Nazlar: (8/15/2018 12:18) Welcome to the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call taking place on Wednesday, 15 August 2018 at 13:00 UTC
Yesim Nazlar: (12:18) Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/APTvBQ
Evin Erdoğdu: (15:49) Hello all!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:53) Hello all
Holly Raiche: (15:53) Hi Dev
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:54) Hi
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:55) On mobile so I’m hopefully silent
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (15:58) Hi
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (15:59) I can be on for one hour then i am on a ISOC Board call
Holly Raiche: (15:59) @ Dev - we actually hope you won't be silent!
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (15:59) sounds like a washing machine
Jonathan Zuck: (15:59) Glenn, up for drafting a section of the subproc comments?
Alberto Soto: (16:04) Hello all!
Alberto Soto: (16:05) Yes, in the Spanish chanel, Alberto Soto
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:06) I would have thought Maureen was an apology as well as she is tied up in Vanuatu for APrIGF
Jonathan Zuck: (16:06) she's listed
Satish Babu: (16:06) Yes, Maureen is in the list of apologies.
Evin Erdoğdu: (16:08) Action Items 2018-08-08: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/hrXxBQ
Bastiaan Goslings: (16:11) Hi all sorry for being late - got stuck in traffic
Satish Babu: (16:11) Edit support is a welcome step....
Yesim Nazlar: (16:11) Welcome Bastiaan!
Nadira AL-Araj: (16:13) hello all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:13) Ouch!
Satish Babu: (16:13) :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:13) but SOOO True !!!
Holly Raiche: (16:13) Should now be Queen's English!
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:15) Jon I got a message from Eduardo that is willing to help as a penholder as well.
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:16) I can't lead the section as penholder but happy to help. I am a bit busy with ISOC Subcommittees right now
Evin Erdoğdu: (16:16) Thanks Glenn
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:18) Is there a list of issues where ALAC hasn’t reached consensus on ? In a manner similiar to the slide 3?
Satish Babu: (16:18) I can help out too, provided there is enough time...(I'm already committed to the IDN comment, which should be complete by 3 Sep). So, count me in if there's time until after this date.
Jonathan Zuck: (16:19) @Dev Anand Teelucksingh: yes
Justine Chew: (16:19) Agree with Holly's point on metrics
Bartlett Morgan: (16:19) dropping off Adobe Connnect. Will continue via phone
Yesim Nazlar: (16:20) noted Bartlett!
Holly Raiche: (16:22) @ Jonathan - I"ll look a he early work on what we originally asked for in merics for consumer trust/choice
Yesim Nazlar: (16:23) @All: Please don't forget to state your names before speaking. Thank you!
Yesim Nazlar: (16:24) Thank you Jonathan :)
Holly Raiche: (16:24) Good suggston
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:24) That would be *most* welcome IMO
Holly Raiche: (16:24) sorry - suggestion
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:25) Anyone from At Large in UASG ?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:25) they could be reached?
Satish Babu: (16:25) I'm part of the UA-Discuss list
Satish Babu: (16:26) But I agree someone like Edmon would be great
Jonathan Zuck: (16:26) Satish, could you hold the pen on this?
Satish Babu: (16:26) Thanks Jonathan, I can confirm after the session/briefing that was just mentioned
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:27) Well Edmon is a vice chair of UASG
Holly Raiche: (16:27) Maybe Chris W could hold the pen?
Heidi Ullrich: (16:28) @Jonthan, from Eduardo in the At-Large Community Chat: Jonathan: I can be a penholder for some of the items. Is it a place a can go an put myself for some of them? I am not going to be able to attend todays call.
Holly Raiche: (16:29) I don't feel strongly about this issue
Marita Moll: (16:31) I had volunteered to help with this one but don't feel confident enough to be penholder
Marita Moll: (16:32) Sure wouldn't mind a partner
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (16:32) I would like to help with this but not penholder
Marita Moll: (16:32) Okay, let' go with that
Nadira AL-Araj: (16:32) i will help Marita
Yrjö Länsipuro: (16:35) I could help, too
Evin Erdoğdu: (16:35) Noted @Yrjö, and thank you all!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:38) A very *important point* Alan
Jonathan Zuck: (16:38) just the company with the most TLDs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:39) Deffinatly people saying they shouldn't
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:39) rampant agreement!!!
Holly Raiche: (16:40) I"l hold the pen
Bastiaan Goslings: (16:40) I will work on this one too
Justine Chew: (16:40) @Jonathan, I had the same thought as you!
Evin Erdoğdu: (16:41) @All please specify which topic you are volunteering for
Holly Raiche: (16:41) Thanks Bastiaan
Bastiaan Goslings: (16:41) I will work on PICs too
Holly Raiche: (16:41) I was volunteering for PICs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:42) It also helps if the time stamps exist in the Chat *as I thought we had previously stated they should do in all our hats* in ALAC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:42) chats not hats
Bastiaan Goslings: (16:44) I volunteered for PICs - but would like to learn more about the 'fees' topic, so I guess I have been voluntold to work on that one as well. Fine ;-)
Holly Raiche: (16:44) Do we care???
Justine Chew: (16:44) Yes, I am in favour of continuing rounds.
Yesim Nazlar: (16:45) @Cheryl: time stamps are already enabled since the beginning of the call
Nadira AL-Araj: (16:45) +1 for rounds
Jonathan Zuck: (16:46) just looking for clarity on the question
Kaili Kan: (16:46) I don't think we have enough evidence on rounds vs. continues new gTLDs. Thus, hard to make statements on this. If so, maybe not to comment.
Kaili Kan: (16:48) Also, I do not see the relation to end-users' interests.
Gordon Chillcott: (16:50) I take your point, Alan. But I still have my doubts
Kaili Kan: (16:51) If there is a contest period for x months after each application for new gTLDs, it may work OK.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:53) Good idea and it needs to be done a hell of a lot better perhaps ;-)
avri doria: (16:53) i have alwasy supported strong applicant support programs.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:54) need to find that line
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:54) Thx
Marita Moll: (16:55) I also support applicant support but not sure how this would be implemented. Need to consider possibilitieis.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:56) Yes that is a question we need feedback on
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:56) Sorry i can't stay, i need to be on another call starting very soon
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (16:56) bye
Justine Chew: (16:57) By the way, one of the questions in assessing Applicant Support is about metrics
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:57) Bye Glenn did you mention Eduardo's offer to pen hold something?
Alberto Soto: (16:58) If Cheryl, Glenn mentioned it
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:59) ahh good
Justine Chew: (16:59) I will penhold for Applicant Support if no one else does.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:00) Thx Justine
Justine Chew: (17:00) Great, Sebastian, thanks!
Marita Moll: (17:00) Okay, I will help iwith the applicant support
Alberto Soto: (17:01) I will work on Applicant Support
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:01) Excellent :-)
Sebastien: (17:01) OK I will give the name to Justine for Applicants requestion support in the last round
Justine Chew: (17:02) I think we should look the questions on Objections
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:02) As someone who wasn’t able to attend past CPWG calls - any question re: objection process?
Justine Chew: (17:02) and possibly Community Applications
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:02) plenty to get on with
Nadira AL-Araj: (17:05) i will help on community application
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:05) Thanks Nadira
Greg Shatan: (17:07) Hello all. Apologies for late arrival.
Yesim Nazlar: (17:08) Welcome Greg!
Marita Moll: (17:08) To staff: please don't forget to add my name to participants list. Thanks
Alberto Soto: (17:08) Sorry, I must leave the meeting, Thanks!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:08) Bye Alberto
Greg Shatan: (17:08) I’ll take Alberto’s seat.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:08) the hot seat
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:09) I am listening to the live streams
Justine Chew: (17:09) @Nadira, I'll work with you on Community Applications. Since it's not a topic that has received consensus, let's start a thread for comments?
Holly Raiche: (17:09) I am reading what has been going on
Justine Chew: (17:09) I will do the same with the Objections questions.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:09) That will be a boon I would push for Alternates to join the main AC
Kaili Kan: (17:10) I have a doctor appointment and have to leave early. Sorry!
Nadira AL-Araj: (17:10) Sure Justine
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:10) Bye Kali
Jonathan Zuck: (17:10) Wow
Heidi Ullrich: (17:10) @All, please ensure that you are familiar with the information posted at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e= .
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:10) there are breakout rooms in Adobe Connect
Holly Raiche: (17:10) Bye Kaili
Heidi Ullrich: (17:10) Our speakers should be joining in 5 mins.
Heidi Ullrich: (17:11) Theresa has joined.
Heidi Ullrich: (17:11) Welcome, Theresa.
Theresa Swinehart: (17:12) Hi Heidi, thank you!
Theresa Swinehart: (17:14) As Alan mentioned, to confirm on Monday's community leader's call we read Alan's update on the RDS review and posted it in the chat.
Sebastien: (17:17) Thanks Alan
Satish Babu: (17:18) Bye Kaili
Alan Greenberg: (17:19) @Seb, to be clear, at one point we thought that GDPR would have a huge impact on our work and even our ability to carry out tthe review. But it was far less than we originally imagined.
Justine Chew: (17:25) @Sebastian: audio link https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__audio.icann.org_mssi_mssi-2Dgdpr-2Dcommunity-2Dleaders-2D13aug18-2Den.mp3&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=E7jdPGtwydtJZUxWWrvGsm2WJwb1La08zVtbmjjk3KQ&e=
Theresa Swinehart: (17:25) the link to the community webinar can be found here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e=
Jonathan Zuck: (17:25) Thanks Justine!
Theresa Swinehart: (17:25) and the specifically the link that Justine posted :-)!
Justine Chew: (17:26) AC recording link https://participate.icann.org/p65jm2z6cv7/
Heidi Ullrich: (17:26) Thank you, Theresa and Justine. The main resource page was sent to the CPWG members is also posted on the CPWG workspace.
Holly Raiche: (17:34) Excllent - thanks
Justine Chew: (17:34) +1 on making AC streaming of EPDP meetings for observers
Holly Raiche: (17:35) Maybe put the links in an email to ALAC
Heidi Ullrich: (17:35) @Holly, we can do that.
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:36) See: Information on the Temp Spec at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_data-2Dprotection-2Dmeetings-2D2017-2D12-2D08-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=R6n2_yvYGQCcn59oAjFVanAF7LkGAiPy2vrtYST9F68&s=IKZOgakRH5BLkeyN3zPb2UOGWHPwDk7Ekcfy_ztcte4&e=
Jonathan Zuck: (17:37) Yay RDAP
Holly Raiche: (17:38) The really sad thing was that when ICANN considered adpting RDAP,, they did not requie the use of the provision of gaed access hat was part of he functionality of RDAP
Holly Raiche: (17:38) sorry - gated
Holly Raiche: (17:40) Which means ALAC needs to firm up a position on the Unified Access Model
Holly Raiche: (17:41) No- butthanks to hem both
Holly Raiche: (17:42) sorry - thanks to them
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:44) Thanks for joining us Theresa nd Marika...
Heidi Ullrich: (17:46) Thanks, everyone!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:46) LOL indeed JZ
Theresa Swinehart: (17:47) Thank you all for the invitation to join.
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (17:47) The unified Access model is in my understanding the wide framework for access to non public data that will permit for several accreditation models for different parties who will need to access
Justine Chew: (17:47) Thank you, Theresa and Marika.
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:47) Thank you, all!
Marika Konings: (17:47) Thanks all!
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:47) Noted Tijani, thank you!
Theresa Swinehart: (17:48) @Tijani, and all thank you for the questions.
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:48) 2018 ALAC Policy Comments & Advice: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102656987/2018+ALAC+Policy+Comments+Advice
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:50) At-Large Workspace: ICANN Seeking Community Feedback on Proposed Unified Access Model - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/JXMeBg
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:50) At-Large Workspace: IPC/BC Accreditation & Access Model for Non-Public Data v1.7 (note: not a formal public comment) - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/EXMeBg
Greg Shatan: (17:52) I’m happy to review the next UAM and see if there’s anything there.
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:52) Thank you @Greg, noted
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:53) We tend NOT to comment on LGR PC's
Satish Babu: (17:54) Agree on the LGRs.
Greg Shatan: (17:54) Has anyone identified an end-user issue in the LGR PC’s? Even for those in the relevant LGR script space?
Evin Erdoğdu: (17:55) At-Large Workspace: Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/sXYeBg
Justine Chew: (17:55) Traditional versus simplified characters
Greg Shatan: (17:56) Discretion is the better part of valour.
Satish Babu: (17:57) @Greg, At-Large community members are involved in the LGR development space...
Satish Babu: (17:57) However, it is very specific to the script, and without knowledge of the script, its pretty hard to participate.
Jonathan Zuck: (17:58) Agree Satish
Greg Shatan: (18:00) I have a hard stop at 11 am EDT. Goodby all!
Holly Raiche: (18:00) Bye Greg
Justine Chew: (18:00) Gotta drop off now to prep for RPM call.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (18:00) thx for joining Geeg
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (18:01) Bye for now... more next week :-)
Marita Moll: (18:01) Thanks.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (18:01) thanks Jonathan, all - take care
Evin Erdoğdu: (18:01) Thank you all!
Satish Babu: (18:01) Thanks all, and bye!
Gordon Chillcott: (18:01) Thanks and bye for now