WebEx Chat: 2018-05-09 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

May 9, 2018 8:57:50 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Hello all!

May 9, 2018 8:59:03 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Hi all

May 9, 2018 8:59:49 AM from Gisella Gruber to all participants: Kaili we can not hear you, would you like a dial out?

May 9, 2018 9:03:59 AM from Alan Greenberg to all participants: Can I take a minute to introduce the CPWG during item 2?

May 9, 2018 9:04:41 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Anyone knows when everything goes back to Adobe connect? I've heard about the beginning of May but here we go, still Webex :(

May 9, 2018 9:07:23 AM from Christopher Wilkinson to all participants: Webex on WT5 thisafternoon, could not b e connected.

May 9, 2018 9:09:28 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Here in Meeting Room for as long as my Internet stays up ( scheduled outages here from midnight to 0600

May 9, 2018 9:12:24 AM from Alan Greenberg to all participants: CPWG and the sub-groups is certainly an experiment. Hopefully it will be effective.

May 9, 2018 9:12:56 AM from Christopher Wilkinson to all participants: OKay.

May 9, 2018 9:16:33 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: GNSO page: https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active/new-gtld-subsequent-procedures

May 9, 2018 9:16:57 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Home: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/NGSPP/overview

May 9, 2018 9:18:35 AM from Olivier Crepin-Leblond to all participants: The subsequent procedures PDP working group publishes a regular newsletter. The latest one can be downloaded from: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/newsletter-new-gtld-subsequent-procedures-03may18-en.pdf

May 9, 2018 9:19:18 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: we have been running the Sub Pro for new gTLDs PDP for a bit over 18 months now considering it's scope that is reasonable, and we expect to be setting out an extensive Interim Report hopefully next month .... NOTE this report will be around 200+ pages

May 9, 2018 9:19:18 AM from Glenn McKnight to all participants: Hi

May 9, 2018 9:19:21 AM from Glenn McKnight to all participants: I am in now

May 9, 2018 9:19:33 AM from Glenn McKnight to all participants: only took 19 minutes to log in to Webex

May 9, 2018 9:19:59 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: Good Cheryl

May 9, 2018 9:20:35 AM from Glenn McKnight to all participants: Back

May 9, 2018 9:22:23 AM from Gisella Gruber to All Attendees: Welcome Glenn

May 9, 2018 9:24:46 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: It waas a dogs breakfast Jonathan

May 9, 2018 9:24:59 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: insert <huge OOOPS!>

May 9, 2018 9:25:54 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: So with the PC on the Interim Report coming we hope we can pre plan a bit better this time

May 9, 2018 9:27:31 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: AI noted

May 9, 2018 9:28:16 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Hadia added

May 9, 2018 9:30:48 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Cross-Community Working Group on new gTLD Auction Proceeds Home: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/CWGONGAP/overview

May 9, 2018 9:31:00 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: The sessions at ICANN 62 'should' be ideal to get us started as well JZ

May 9, 2018 9:36:10 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Auction Proceeds Survey (Vanda's email to the ALAC list): https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac/2018-May/011298.html

May 9, 2018 9:38:03 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: The straw poll survey is now live. Please provide your input by Wednesday 9 May by 18.00 UTC at the latest.

May 9, 2018 9:39:38 AM from Maureen Hilyard to all participants: Yes I concur with Sebastian.. Both Members and Participants are allowed to participated in the survey. Its quite comprehensive and you have to have attended the expert sessions as well as read all the information that others provided in order to answer the survey

May 9, 2018 9:41:34 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: I support that as a good process for this group OCL

May 9, 2018 9:41:35 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Noted

May 9, 2018 9:41:43 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: Sorry

May 9, 2018 9:42:29 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: end of "an era" with of course a new Era to follow ;-)

May 9, 2018 9:42:48 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: CCWG-Accountability WS2 Final Report: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102658179/At-Large+Workspace+CCWG-Accountability+WS2+Final+Report

May 9, 2018 9:44:19 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Hand over to Hadia

May 9, 2018 9:44:58 AM from Bastiaan Goslings to all participants: Considering the deadline (11May) it is interesting to see that no one has submitted comments yet:

May 9, 2018 9:45:05 AM from Bastiaan Goslings to all participants: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-ccwg-acct-ws2-final-30mar18/

May 9, 2018 9:49:24 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: I can explain about concerns

May 9, 2018 9:49:27 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: :)

May 9, 2018 9:49:32 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Is Tijani on this call??? this feedback additional from Hadia should be of great interest to him as a Co Chair

May 9, 2018 9:49:48 AM from Gisella Gruber to All Attendees: No, Tijani is an apology

May 9, 2018 9:49:51 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: If not then he needs to be updated

May 9, 2018 9:50:35 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Correct Alan

May 9, 2018 9:50:52 AM from Olivier Crepin-Leblond to all participants: unfortunately Tijani is not here today as he is an the African Internet Conference

May 9, 2018 9:51:47 AM from Olivier Crepin-Leblond to all participants: but we'll need an action item (please note, staff) to let Tijani know about the discussion @ 16:46 UTC, which is 45 minutes into the call, for him to listen to the recording

May 9, 2018 9:55:47 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Noted!

May 9, 2018 9:56:43 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Indeed Tatiana

May 9, 2018 9:58:12 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: Yes Tatiana

May 9, 2018 9:58:53 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: The prioritisation is very important

May 9, 2018 10:05:31 AM from Yrjö Länsipuro to all participants: In 8.2.1.Instead of "political activities", just use the same words as earlier in the paragraph, "contacts with governments" .

May 9, 2018 10:05:36 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Yes, because it's a compromise. And as I said, I don't mind if ALAC puts this as a comment! Although it might look insensitive but it makes the point again: the discussions about ICANN's imperialism, jurisdiciton and relocation are outside of the group remit so why are they in the report.

May 9, 2018 10:11:37 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: hand up

May 9, 2018 10:11:45 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: I didn't

May 9, 2018 10:12:05 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: I can respond

May 9, 2018 10:12:18 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: I would prefer to not raise the "inconsistency" noted in Jurisdiction

May 9, 2018 10:12:57 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Let it alone please (it is a known not an unknown

May 9, 2018 10:14:35 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Cheryl, in a way raising it would be insensitive...

May 9, 2018 10:14:51 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Even if I would looooooove to see this in the comment.

May 9, 2018 10:15:27 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: my hand is up again....

May 9, 2018 10:16:07 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: I agree Tatiana very inflamatory actually

May 9, 2018 10:18:37 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Happy to help, Hadia :)

May 9, 2018 10:20:42 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: That IS the issue!

May 9, 2018 10:21:32 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: OCL is not echoing now

May 9, 2018 10:24:19 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Jonathan, yes I am in agreement here! But guess what, there are opinions that it should be the Org.

May 9, 2018 10:24:52 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: And I think it shouldn't be. The org coming up with the plan for the accountability of the Org? Hm. Hm. Hm.

May 9, 2018 10:25:38 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: The WS2 group agreed I believe at the last F2F that the Implimentation Team would include the WT leads

May 9, 2018 10:25:51 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: It's of course a community exercise but we don't seem to have a real idea how/when/whenhowwhen. We are tired of this long process and we are just obsessed with ticking the boxes and getting this done.

May 9, 2018 10:26:19 AM from Maureen Hilyard to all participants: Implementation - maybe the group will not be so large seeing as there were many who were in multiple groups. - the real workers

May 9, 2018 10:26:19 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: Yes oversight implementation - cool but you shouldhave something to oversight.

May 9, 2018 10:26:45 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: I mean, the group is supposed to oversight. Fine. Who's going to come up with the plan that is going to be overseen?

May 9, 2018 10:27:18 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: and I keep asking the question and there are just shrugs, like we gonna see. I am fine -- I just really want to get the WS2 report done.

May 9, 2018 10:27:35 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: And yes, it's yet another "we are going to see".

May 9, 2018 10:27:58 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Imp Teams usually work with the Org to set the plan (we did for WS1)

May 9, 2018 10:29:36 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: I fonfly think of it as a behemoth

May 9, 2018 10:29:43 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: The message is, we are tired :-)

May 9, 2018 10:29:45 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: fondly

May 9, 2018 10:30:24 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: I am too weary to be tired @Tatiana

May 9, 2018 10:30:42 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: @Cheryl :)

May 9, 2018 10:30:57 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: what anoooother call???

May 9, 2018 10:31:03 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: ;)

May 9, 2018 10:31:16 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Re next call we should set one yes?

May 9, 2018 10:32:02 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: and perhaps not at my 0200 overlapping another weekly 0300 call *sigh*

May 9, 2018 10:32:44 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Hey I am still on another call for 45 mins more

May 9, 2018 10:32:50 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: Well done - very good meeting

May 9, 2018 10:32:58 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Yes good interactions

May 9, 2018 10:33:03 AM from Maureen Hilyard to all participants: Productve meeting

May 9, 2018 10:33:06 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: Thanks everyone

May 9, 2018 10:33:16 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: except becareful of the elephant

May 9, 2018 10:33:33 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: I do hope the ALAC does vote to accept it ....

May 9, 2018 10:33:37 AM from Sebastien Bachollet to all participants: there are not monsters!!!!

May 9, 2018 10:33:52 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/g3AeBg

May 9, 2018 10:33:56 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: deffinatly not SeB

May 9, 2018 10:33:57 AM from Maureen Hilyard to all participants: @Tatiana - even one bite at a time migth be difficult

May 9, 2018 10:34:40 AM from Cheryl Langdon-Orr to all participants: All good from me... NBye for now

May 9, 2018 10:34:44 AM from Kaili Kan to all participants: Thank you all. Bye!

May 9, 2018 10:34:45 AM from Tatiana Tropina to all participants: bye all - thanks

May 9, 2018 10:34:52 AM from Evin Erdoğdu to all participants: Thank you all!