AC Chat: 2018-08-01 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call
- Yesim Saglam
- Aleksey Khapchenko
Ā Ā Yesim Nazlar: (8/1/2018 14:40) Welcome to the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call taking place on Wednesday, 01 August 2018 at 13:00 UTC
Ā Ā Yesim Nazlar: (14:40) Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/wvPvBQ
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (15:53) Hello all!
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (15:56) Action Items from previous call: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/cbXxBQ
Ā Ā Fatimata: (15:58) Hello All
Ā Ā Hadia Elminiawi: (16:00) hello all
Ā Ā Sebastien: (16:03) Seun
Ā Ā Sebastien: (16:03) ???
Ā Ā John Laprise: (16:03) Olivier-you're a bit faint
Ā Ā John Laprise: (16:03) kk
Ā Ā Sebastien: (16:05) OK thanks
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:06) Action Items: 2018-07-25: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/cbXxBQ
Ā Ā Jonathan Zuck: (16:11) Have we figured out what we want to achieve?
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:13) Ask if they have someone who can do it..
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:14) Google Doc: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1QR3CTgGjnVKDOTPQ6qEdksx9QAK76aj8E8F-2Dfvkn9iM_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_l6NUeT1exoU4obYAeO1y3mpyKwShVANfqjLGUA0AdU&s=7-cTQ4zmqDqRX84eRBhJ2vZCRsziNVvfpjEZUeQ_eAM&e=
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:16) Comment-only access is usually possible...
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:17) Why you've chose to work in Google Doc if there is the Wiki?
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:17) Not on Google Spreadsheets.
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:17) Thank you @Satish, that feature is currently not available on Google Spreadsheets.
Ā Ā Hadia Elminiawi: (16:17) we can also work in suggestion mode
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:18) Comments appear to be enabled on this document.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:18) Exactly Alan keeping it to Comments rather than Edits as such is 'safer' at this stage... IMO
Ā Ā Fatimata: (16:18) Non members of the group cannot access this document
Ā Ā Fatimata: (16:20) Ok, T thought it was just for me
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:20) You should be able to request access.. I have just done that.
Ā Ā Fatimata: (16:20) ok Maureen.Ā Ā Thanks
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:21) There is consolodation Alan
Ā Ā Olivier MJ CrĆ©pin-Leblond: (16:21) so how do we get access to this document?
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:21) I saw this as a useful triage tool
Ā Ā John Laprise: (16:21) Suggest that if we do it within a spreadsheet, subquestions get individual rows
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:21) We will manage either way Alan
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:22) Which Google Doc is the last one: The URL from the agenda or the URL just Johnathan shared in the chat?
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:23) Similar to how there is no real track changes in MS Excel. Different product, different rules.
Ā Ā Hadia Elminiawi: (16:23) Thanks Jonathan
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:25) Permissions are still required at this stage to the Doc ( Tiresome ) I trust Evin will fix
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:25) @Alan @Satish, I think we can share comments-only access by email (rather than link), will look into it ASAP
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:25) Thanks @Evin!
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:26) In a dOC, WE CAN EASILY PROVIDE anyone WITH COMMENTING RIGHTS
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:26) @Alan.. you can create a comment box in individual cells in Excel
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:26) Oop sorry caps
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:26) @Mureen, yes, but that also gives everyone editing rights.
Ā Ā Hadia Elminiawi: (16:27) +1 Jonathan
Ā Ā John Laprise: (16:27) +1 Alan
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:29) Yes please Jonathan,Ā Ā the PDP WG is away of the history of groups previous inputsĀ Ā from our 2 Community Comment Input rounds as well as a specificĀ Ā search and provide a list of ... Comments etc.,Ā Ā Yes please exactlyĀ Ā Alan
Ā Ā Olivier MJ CrĆ©pin-Leblond: (16:29) Alan Greenberg: @Mureen, yes, but that also gives everyone editing rights.Ā Ā /// No it does not; at least not on my computer. It says "comment only"
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:32) Yes please Jonathan
Ā Ā Justine Chew: (16:32) Hi. Apologies for being late to the meeting.
Ā Ā John Laprise: (16:32) Less work! WooHoo!
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:32) Hi Justine!
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:32) @All, here is the link for comments only, to the ICANN Google Spreadsheet: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-2D8U-2Dl534SWpbnsiapi-2Dfi5mzFw_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_l6NUeT1exoU4obYAeO1y3mpyKwShVANfqjLGUA0AdU&s=nP5KliU7537MCs2LjgfSltP2rMHNd5l6N2apS6tPx_o&e=
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:33) We still need access which has been requested
Ā Ā Jonathan Zuck: (16:33) So ANYONE can make comments if they get to the document via that link?
Ā Ā Jonathan Zuck: (16:33) Can someone try it?
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:33) With whatever access I have been given, I have now added a comment and inserted text into Cell C2.
Ā Ā Greg Shatan: (16:33) Hello, and apologies for being tardy.
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:34) @Jonathan, yes for the URL on the agenda
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:34) Comments seem to be working
Ā Ā Jonathan Zuck: (16:34) GReat. Thanks!
Ā Ā Jonathan Zuck: (16:34) Thanks Evin!
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:34) @Jonathan, but not on URL thatĀ Ā you've shared.
Ā Ā Justine Chew: (16:34) I require permission to access the googledoc
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:35) @Justine, try the URL that Evin shared on the agenda
Ā Ā Justine Chew: (16:35) I did, and that's the one I still require permission to access!
Ā Ā Justine Chew: (16:36) Never mind, I have gotten access
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:36) Great @Justine, thanks for confirming.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:36) Obviously that was all with y SubPro PDP Co-Chairs hat on people (taking the hat off now)
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:37) @Evin Im still getting access denied and no email yet
Ā Ā Fatimata: (16:38) @Maureen, me too
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:38) The above link is comments only
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:38) Thanks Jonathan and Satish. That works
Ā Ā Fatimata: (16:39) I could access th elink share by Evin but not Jonathan's link
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:39) @Johanthan, the URL that just shared,Ā Ā I need a permission.
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:39) We have had URLs to two different spreadsheets in this chat. Can we have clarity of which we should used, or if there will be a new doc which allows suggesting.
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:40) +1 Alan
Ā Ā Fatimata: (16:40) +1 Alan
Ā Ā Justine Chew: (16:40) Yes, agree with CLO for input based on currency and recent experience
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:40) @Alan, please use only this ICANN Google Spreadsheet: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-2D8U-2Dl534SWpbnsiapi-2Dfi5mzFw_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_l6NUeT1exoU4obYAeO1y3mpyKwShVANfqjLGUA0AdU&s=nP5KliU7537MCs2LjgfSltP2rMHNd5l6N2apS6tPx_o&e=
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:41) Evin I still get the request Access from that link
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:41) @Evin, that one allows (accidental or deliberate editing. Is that what we really want?
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:43) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1agNhbXfXLPQIRTGjC-2D8U-2Dl534SWpbnsiapi-2Dfi5mzFw_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_l6NUeT1exoU4obYAeO1y3mpyKwShVANfqjLGUA0AdU&s=nP5KliU7537MCs2LjgfSltP2rMHNd5l6N2apS6tPx_o&e= this link is comment only, but I will give access to the Google Spreadsheet to those requesting. Thanks for your patience!
Ā Ā Olivier MJ CrĆ©pin-Leblond: (16:44) Alan you re the only person who can edit
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:44) Simply the comments has to be timely, last year comments might be under different situation
Ā Ā Olivier MJ CrĆ©pin-Leblond: (16:44) your editing rights aoud be taken out
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:44) @Alan and @Jonathan - we can change to Comment-only for your access, if you would like. Thanks!
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:45) My spreadsheet says "comment only"
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:45) Yes, it's comment-only...am unable to make any edits
Ā Ā Greg Shatan: (16:45) Google docs allow the owners to edit.Ā Ā Others can be granted edit, comment or view-only privileges.Ā Ā Comments include track changes and marginal comments.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:46) :-)Ā Ā Thx JZ
Ā Ā Greg Shatan: (16:46) Someone needs to have edit rights in order to accept other peopleās comments.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:46) first EPDP call taking place today at 14:00 UTC via the audio cast: Meeting Audio Cast (for alternates and observers)To join the event, click on the link: Listen in browser: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stream.icann.org-3A8000_stream01Listen&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_l6NUeT1exoU4obYAeO1y3mpyKwShVANfqjLGUA0AdU&s=ndATTfHpW1t-s4HW1S0beVY0ePIOfJgPTvkcJsvqKP8&e= in application such as iTunes: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stream.icann.org-3A8000_stream01.m3u&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=_l6NUeT1exoU4obYAeO1y3mpyKwShVANfqjLGUA0AdU&s=89VM6J6J-o_1smafQ9NQTkt053uZBMAaLAGsg1O7BHs&e= Agenda wiki page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/HoPkBg
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:46) Understood. I thought that SUGGEST MODE would be useful, particularly when we move to writing substantive comments to submit.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:46) Evin you might wish to promulgate that information
Ā Ā Alan Greenberg: (16:47) Dropping now.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:47) Bye Alan
Ā Ā Greg Shatan: (16:47) If you have edit rights, you can still work in suggest mode.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:47) I would thin so @Greg usually a choice
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:49) OCLĀ Ā I put some audio cast info for the 1st EPDP call in chart earllier
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:51) @All, please let me know if you need access or request access to comment through the spreadsheet. Thank you!
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:51) dropped from audio as my next ICANN Call is starting soon ( not the EDPD one Sub Pro Leadership call)
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:52) I will stay in AC as long as I can though
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (16:52) Thanks @Cheryl, noted
Ā Ā Yesim Nazlar: (16:52) thanks Cheryl, noted
Ā Ā Justine Chew: (16:54) Meeting frequency is one of the agenda items on the call shortly.
Ā Ā Roberto Gaetano: (16:54) I am under the impression that Kurt proposes Tue-Thu 13:00 UTC, but I am not sure
Ā Ā Greg Shatan: (16:57) Seems reasonable, OCL.
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:57) Good plan OCL , re the EDPDĀ Ā with the 1st call starting in only a few minutes and I assume Holly joining the audio stream and Hadia being in the callĀ Ā the info I put in chat earlier has a link to the AgendaĀ Ā so that might answer some of your earlier issues raised
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:57) +1 I think its a good idea.. a clearinghouse for any information that is useful to help people understand what is going on\
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (16:58) and our regular meetings don't need to be immediatly after the EDPD onesĀ Ā hours or even a day later would be fine IMO
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:58) Sounds good. Would there be a Wiki for people to ask questions?
Ā Ā Maureen Hilyard: (16:59) @Satish.. or a FAQ section?
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (16:59) Yes, FAQs would be useful.
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (16:59) Good suggestion Holly
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (17:01) @Holly @Olivier, here are links to the EPDP resources, we can post these resources to the At-Large CPWG page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/WYHkBg
Ā Ā Hadia Elminiawi: (17:02) bye
Ā Ā Satish Babu: (17:03) Thanks and bye!
Ā Ā Nadira AL-Araj: (17:03) Thank you all
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:03) I will be listenong to EPDP
Ā Ā Amrita: (17:03) Thanks
Ā Ā Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (17:03) Bye for now thpugh
Ā Ā Evin ErdoÄdu: (17:03) Thank you all for your participation!
Ā Ā Kaili Kan: (17:04) Bye!
Ā Ā Greg Shatan: (17:04) Bye all
Ā Ā Gordon Chillcott: (17:04) Bye for now.