At-Large ATLAS II Implementation Taskforce AC Chat 2015.01.15
- Terri Agnew
- Aleksey Khapchenko
Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the At-Large ATLAS II Implementation Taskforce on Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 20:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/yAPvBQ
Beran Gillen:Hello Everyone
Ariel Liang:hello Beran and all
judith hellerstein:HI All
Murray McKercher naralo:hello, apologies for being late
Terri Agnew:ATLAS II Recommendations to the ICANN Board: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/LIDrBQ
Terri Agnew:Welcome Murray McKercher
Terri Agnew:Welcome Judith Hellerstein
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alyne Andrade
Ariel Liang:can you all see my screen?
Terri Agnew:@Ariel, Yes we can
judith hellerstein:Yes
Ariel Liang:great thank you
judith hellerstein:Yes Ariel
judith hellerstein:@olivier, Glenn and I aer co Charis of the Tech Task force
Alyne Andrade:Hello!
judith hellerstein:We can talk about rec. 11
Terri Agnew:Welcome Dev Anand Teelucksingh
Murray McKercher naralo:I agree with Alan on Outreach AND Engagement
Wolf Ludwig:FULLY agree with Alan!!!
Glenn McKnight:You can call it anything. The issue is the mandate of the WG and what is the deliverables
Wolf Ludwig:Can't agree with Alan more -- expressed perfectly my thoughts!
Glenn McKnight:Outreach has been interpreted as a recruitment drive in the past. If Outreach is more education and public awarenss than the activities are very different
Alan Greenberg:Glenn, you are very correct. ANd that is why I am raising it.
Glenn McKnight:@ Alan I get it
judith hellerstein 2:@cheryl the notes were from the discussion we had on a tech task force call
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:OK so the Notes under Rec 11 I will assume is from technology TF and ensure Accessibility (if such is even required) does not duplicate...
Wolf Ludwig:Again I agree with Alan -- I feel the need to sweep in front of our own doors!
Beran Gillen:sounds about right @CLO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:As I said if more than one eentity holds respinsability I recommend using an attribution in the notes
judith hellerstein 2:@cheryl since Glenn and I are on both we took both the accessibikity and tech task force in mind when writing it
Gunela Astbrink:Support Holly's suggestion
Alan Greenberg:Was that a primal scream?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol - it was likely a chair or door creek
Alan Greenberg:too bad.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I agree tottally with Holly's approach to the accountability set of recs
Ariel Liang:One moment
Wolf Ludwig:Plus 1 @Cheryl and Holly
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:hmm...Rec 16 is indeed vague
Ariel Liang:the recs we will focus on are no.16, no.20, no.27, no.40, no.41, and no.42
Gunela Astbrink:Totallly appreciate the timing for this call. Rotation of calls has been discussed
Glenn McKnight:@Dev the Rec 26 what is the update on the KNOWLEDGE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM with ICANN
Alan Greenberg:Cheryl, the teflon maiden.
Glenn McKnight:@Dev I ran into the ICANN staffer at the ICANN Office in Washington yesterday he had no communication on this issue
Holly Raiche:So what was WG 2 smoking at the time?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Glenn, haven't progressed much on this - setting aside some time this weekend to work on it
Holly Raiche:Hi Dev
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Noted @Judith. I specifically mentioned your activity in both groups ... based on this then Olivier please simply accept these notes as shown in the table under Rec 11 as now covering what you asked the TF Chairs for. as the pre Singapore reporting / update you requested and you can expect no further formally from Accessability on this ... I am assuming here that Dev has approved this text as update from his TF in this...
Wolf Ludwig:Lol on Holly's question ;-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The text that led to Rec 16 from the ATLAS II declaration PDF is page 17
Wolf Ludwig:That's liefe Olivier -- everything is usually rotating -- incl. the world ;-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Also there is also a LAC Newsletter by ICANN
Gunela Astbrink:@Cheryl & Judith. Happy to fill in the status on Rec. 11 apart from the captioning
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:LAC Newsletter : https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/lacstrtgy/pages/113476282/LAC+Newsletter in EN, ES, PT
judith hellerstein 2:Thanks @gunela
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:no need gunella its only an update the WG reports to the ALAC every month
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:including links to all work on wiki etc.,
Wolf Ludwig:Good point Alan!
Beran Gillen:@Alan judging by the discussions in the CCWG mailing list, their recommendations seems exhaustive at the moment.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:ATRT2 Implementation Page : https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/prgrmatrt2impl/ATRT2+Implementation+Program+Home
Wolf Ludwig:I guess the Board may have other problems or concerns?
Beran Gillen:i agree @Wolf
Alan Greenberg:There is one staff person who has been assigned ATRT2 implementation.
Wolf Ludwig:Agree back, Beran, on your comment conc. CCWG etc.
Glenn McKnight:I assume this item is for Regional constituency meetings
Glenn McKnight:Sometimes our request for sponsorship clashes with ICANN's sponsorship requests
Glenn McKnight:Many times our approach to Affililias has this answer
Glenn McKnight:Not always
Wolf Ludwig:We are always hunting the same sponsors IMO ...
Glenn McKnight:Suggest ALAC work colloboratively with ICANN assigned staff to work in unision to approach sponsorships
Glenn McKnight:Not Board but staff
Wolf Ludwig:... and need to identify alternate sponsoring sources ...
Glenn McKnight:I think it's a mistake
Glenn McKnight:It's not the board
Beran Gillen:I dont think the Board can help with sponsorship
Glenn McKnight:Appropriate staff we should focus on
Beran Gillen:Isn't that the Outreach committee working with ICANN Staff?
Beran Gillen:IMO
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Rec 41 also came out with the concept that At-Large needs to be independently funded - this was mentioned in a FBSC call
Glenn McKnight:We have never approached the board for this type of advise or intervention in my knowledge
Beran Gillen:I think Outreach can help
Alan Greenberg:I said FBSC can discuss. What the outcome of that discussion would be is a different question.
Wolf Ludwig:That's a point I fully agree!
Murray McKercher naralo:@Alan, does ALAC have a budget assisgned from ICANN?
Wolf Ludwig:We will submit a request for Dublin in autumn 2015.
Glenn McKnight:yes i think this one is appropriate
Glenn McKnight:Item 26
Glenn McKnight:This is a big issue and a difficult one
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:if possible that would be great for Rec 26
Wolf Ludwig:@Murray -- TMK there is no particular budget "assigned to ALAC"?
Alan Greenberg:@Murray. ICANN budgeting is not done by AC/SO. There are a number of budget areas that we have access to.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I have been harping on this one for years :-)
Alan Greenberg:And particular projects the we request may be explicitly funded.
Glenn McKnight:Hard to hear Dev
Beran Gillen:key word being MAY @Alan
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:words like document management are also used
Glenn McKnight:The knowledge Management System needs clear defination, objectives, budget etc this is a very difficult one , a large problem is people using a system
Glenn McKnight:@Alan lots of people at the Meet and Greet in Washington commented on the ICANN website issues
Gunela Astbrink:It needs a dedicated staff person to set up and maintain with adequate training available for the ICANN community to use effectively
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I have stayed way longer than I should have
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:got to go SOON
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:great Thanks BYE for now....
Ariel Liang:Thank you all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks all - take care all
Alyne Andrade:Thank you
Beran Gillen:thx bye
Gunela Astbrink:Thank you, bye
Wolf Ludwig:Thanks Olivier -- good conclusion!