FBSC AC Chat 2014-10-02

  Terri Agnew:Welcome all to the Finance and Budget Sucbommittee call on Thursday, 02 October 2014 at 1400 UTC

  Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/3w7vBQ

  Raf Fatani:I need to send my apologies if I keep disconnecting

  Raf Fatani:I'm on a bad connection and all my calls have been terrible today

  Terri Agnew:Hi Raf, so sorry to hear that, if I see you disconnect before start time I will note your apology.

  Terri Agnew:Recording of this call will be available later today on meeting page

  Raf Fatani:thank you terri

  Terri Agnew:Just as a reminder this call will start in 26 minutes

  Raf Fatani:yup.

  Allan Skuce:Greetings.

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Allan

  Yuliya Morenets:Good afternoon

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Yuliya

  Terri Agnew:As a reminder, please mute when not speaking

  Terri Agnew:ATLAS II Recommendations : https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/MoDrBQ

  Allan Skuce:Did we get any input from outreach?

  Allan Skuce:I agree with Alan that we do need substance before proceeding.

  Alan Greenberg:I am afraid that you will likely hear this from me again, but handwaving saying we are important and doing good things, so give us more money, will not be particularly successful.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I agree totally with that sentiment @alan... but given a value proposition and some measurables.. weel. that is different...

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Absolutely Dev

  Allan Skuce:Looking ahead to ATLAS 3.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:sorry for the delay in logging in -- it took 9 times to try and connect to AC

  Allan Skuce:We need some examples to work with.

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Darlene Thompson

  Allan Skuce:Maybe a small regional discretionary fund.

  Darlene Thompson:My apologies for being late - another meeting ran long.  Am listening on adobe

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Allan: indeed -- there is not such thing at the moment

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:good point @alan

  Wolf Ludwig:Plus 1

  Wolf Ludwig:Outreach without particular resources has proofed to be difficult!

  Yuliya Morenets:agree Wolf

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:IPv6 migration is borderline

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:New gTLDs is within the bounds

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:ICANN Accountability. Or transition of Stewardship of IANA contract for example is within bounds too, in my opinion

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:I would even venture to say that ICANN Studienkreis should be within bounds too

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:Good point, Dev

  Wolf Ludwig:Two years ago EURALO co-organized a Briefing event on new gTLDs together with Swiss OFCOM in Berne.

  Wolf Ludwig:I tried to get support for sending EURALO members to ICANN Studienkreis meetings several times -- what was always rejected!

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:...and yet Fadi attended ICANN studienkreis, didn't he?

  Wolf Ludwig:Yes, Fadi attended twice -- last year in Italy and this time in Sofia.

  Wolf Ludwig:Well, recommendationswon't hurt anybody ;-)

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:dropped from the call -- but I can hear through the AC room

  Allan Skuce:agree with Dev about having details in appendices.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Dev: the declaration could not be 100 pages long. so it was really summarised. But now that we can split the recommendations, it's possible to expand on them. Pehrps going back to the original TG work would also be of help?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:back

  Alan Greenberg:I'm afraid I have to drop off now.  Late for other commitment.

  Terri Agnew:goodbye Alan

  Allan Skuce:Collaborations.

  Terri Agnew:We are trying to find echo

  Wolf Ludwig:To my memory: ALAC events like the "10 years ALAC anniversary" in Prague wouldn't have been possible without additional sponsoring from Afilias.

  Wolf Ludwig:And Afilias has "helpd out" in other cases as well!

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:Afilias, Google, Cira, PIR... these are all organisations that have sponsored At-Large events but in every case, it was direct interaction with those organisations that yielded this sponsorship

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Dev: yes, that's right. This was the recommendation from members in the group

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:very strange I could hear you no problem

  Terri Agnew:@Oliiver, we are dialing back out to you

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:I meant to say that what Dev said is also what I heardon that WG

  Allan Skuce:Examples would be beneficial.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:back on

  Terri Agnew:Olivier is back on audio

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2:@Cheryl -- very scary outcome indeed.

  Silvia Vivanco:so f@ Tijani for rec 41 "outside ICANN' will be added?

  Wolf Ludwig:Having some other commitments, I need to leave this call now.

  Terri Agnew:goodbye Wolf

  Allan Skuce:Thanks; other commitments ... Bye

  Terri Agnew:goodbye Allan

  Yuliya Morenets:Bye

  Darlene Thompson:Bye

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye all