At-Large Technology Taskforce 2014-09-08 AC room chat

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (9/8/2014 15:33) Dear all, welcome to the Joint Accessibility/ Technology Taskfore call on the 8th September 2014

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (15:34) Agenda page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/Of7uBQ

  Sylvia Herlein: (15:55) Hello everybody. I'll only in Adobe

  Joly MacFie: (15:58) Just setting up m y mic

  CFITechnician Brian: (15:58) Can you please make me a host?

  CFITechnician Brian: (15:58) Presenters cannot configure the caption pod.

  Joly MacFie: (16:00) going away to reset

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:00) Hello everyone

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:00) Hello Everyone

  Glenn McKnight: (16:02) Judith is joining us

  judith hellerstein: (16:03) Sorry I am late.  My email said ti was at 11am and not 10am

  Glenn McKnight: (16:04) just starting

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:05) Hello all

  judith hellerstein: (16:06) I was also instrumental in arranging this

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:06) Yes Judith, your contributions are much appreciated

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:06) Hello everyone

  Sylvia Herlein: (16:07) hello all

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:07) Hi everyone

  Glenn McKnight: (16:07) @Judith   you were   very instrumental  in this  presesentation

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:07) I have seen CaptionFirst's work in many international fora.

  Glenn McKnight: (16:08) Hi Gunella  

  judith hellerstein: (16:08) Hi Gunella

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:08) @Thanks Judy for your suggestions

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:08) Hi Glenn and Judy

  Glenn McKnight: (16:08) @Gunella  your  IGF  sessioin last week was using  Captions first

  Glenn McKnight: (16:08) @Judith and  Gunella  I created a  Google doc for your  feedback

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:08) Yes, I come across CaptionsFirst many times

  judith hellerstein: (16:09) Caption first does many igf and itu events

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:11) And CaptionFirst did captioning for an ISOC conference call

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:12) is the backend linking URL based?

  judith hellerstein: (16:12) Andrea Saks was instrumental in organizing in getting the captioning on the IGF and ITU events

  Joly MacFie: (16:12) swf = flash

  Joly MacFie: (16:13) Is that readable by screen readers?

  Glenn McKnight: (16:13) @Joly  any concerns  for Linux  or  MAC?

  Glenn McKnight: (16:14) @Gordon  is running lInux   any issues?

  Murray McKercher: (16:14) i am seeing text

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:14) Yes

  Gordon Chillcott: (16:14) @Glenn - no issues so far.

  judith hellerstein: (16:14) Yes the text is flowing

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:14) All the multi-modalities are tough for blind people - another big issue

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:14) And users are able to pick their own color style.  Very nice

  Murray McKercher: (16:15) great idea for accessability issues :)

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:16) Question @ Pat - Is there a related URL for users who may not have access to adobe connect?  or in a situation where i want to display this text on a screen seperately?

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:16) Please remember to state your names before speasking, for the transcription

  Murray McKercher: (16:17) If I am supporting three languages, how would the translation work,m and do understand goggle translate is not perfect, so live translation would be on different channels?

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:17) Just a reminder - to say your name before speaking. I assume Joly is asking questions ?

  judith hellerstein: (16:18) They can bring in a captioner who speaks other lagnuages for those channels that are spanish/french

  Murray McKercher: (16:18) @judith thanks

  judith hellerstein: (16:19) They can do Spanish for all calls but I think French requires them to find a captioner

  Joly MacFie: (16:19) Yes Dev

  Murray McKercher: (16:20) For Chinese translation can captioning go from right to left?

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:22) thank you Dev

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:22) You can view the text outside of the meeting here: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:22) ok thanks Brian

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:23) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo

  Murray McKercher: (16:23) sorry no voice

  Murray McKercher: (16:23) thanks

  Glenn McKnight: (16:25) @ Silvia  can you speak  spanish for the test

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:25) This is a Live Captioner to comfirm - not automated captioning?

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:26) yes Josh LIVE

  Joly MacFie: (16:26) arabic goes right to left too

  Murray McKercher: (16:26) Also DEV  re low bandwidth, this is a very important issue, thanks for keeping this issue front and centre

  judith hellerstein: (16:26) right now it is a live transcriber

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:26) Heather - Captioner, in the hosts

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:26) thanks, I just wanted to make sure that was clear

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:27) no problrm

  Murray McKercher: (16:27) Despite my critique, this a great add-on to the AC experience :)

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:29) My screen isn't grayed out

  judith hellerstein: (16:30) Pat can you talk about the option for having an additional translator and for the call to be transcribed by 2 different cpationers

  judith hellerstein: (16:30) in English and in Spanish

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:33) This really gets back to the issue of setting up seperate language adobe connect rooms

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:33) We would organise the AC room differently depending on languages required

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:35) @ Pat - Can you explain why AC9 pod is running in short paragraphs? vs the Caption pod that is running long lines?  is that the biggest difference?

  Glenn McKnight: (16:36) @Dev  will i you  ask the  AC  questions

  judith hellerstein: (16:36) @josh yes because the AC9 pod works by sentence and the caption stream works by words

  Joly MacFie: (16:36) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:36) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo

  Murray McKercher: (16:37) This looks familiar as I experienced this during the IGF meeting recently

  Joly MacFie: (16:38) Yes Brian I can see it work with two browser windows fine.

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:38) @ yes - they could have seperate URLS

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:39) we have audio channels per language

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:39) an EN, ES, FR audio bridges

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:39) the captioner in ES could then dial into the ES bridge to hear the Spanigh directly

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:40) We have several language channels correct

  Joly MacFie: (16:40) there would be separate pods Judith.

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:40) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:41) @ All - ideally if you are doing seperate languages to this level, you would create adobe connect rooms in their respective languages like was done at NETmundial.

  Murray McKercher: (16:41) Looks great, I will have to leave this call for another, thanks to the presenters...

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:42) French is average, mistakes but not glaring one

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:42) We have 2 FR speaking testing it now

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:42) Thank you Murray.

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:42) I can test Spanish

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:42) when available

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:42) It is unfortunate we talk about pods, as they translate into garlic head in French.

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:43) :)

  Joly MacFie: (16:43) :)

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:43) :-)

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:43) @ pat agreed.

  judith hellerstein: (16:43) Thanks Pat!!

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:44) Captionstream is much easier to follow

  Glenn McKnight: (16:45) Yes  i am viewing it too

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:45) No, the URL makes it available : eg https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo&language=fr

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:46) I would be very leary of doing the translations to the greater community via google translate due to the lack of accuracy.  at least until the technology continues to improve.

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:46) Josh is on listen only

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:46) unfortantly I cannot, as i am sitting in the board meeting right now

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:48) this is very nice though, i am happy to see the Caption pod. . . much better then the AC pod

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:48) but remember you can Save the transcript too

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:49) Nice feature with find

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:49) yeah, very nice

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:49) very useful for the community

  judith hellerstein: (16:49) Yes.  That is why we wanted to test it and showcase it all

  judith hellerstein: (16:51) When Glenn and I waned to do the demo we liked the caption stream pod better

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:51) @ glen - for pricing, so there is a cost for the streaming per min, plus the cost of the captioner, so how much would an hour call cost?  (if this is approriate to ask)

  judith hellerstein: (16:51) Pat sad it was 130 an hour

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:52) so the english stream is included in the $130?

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:52) thats great, no problem

  judith hellerstein: (16:52) What is the cost of a second transcriber

  Joly MacFie: (16:53) Good question Dev.

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:53) @ Dev, they would be able to use the URL

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh (mobile): (16:53) true

  Joly MacFie: (16:54) Fire up the app and test anyone?

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:54) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo&language=en here is the URL again if anyone would like to test it

  Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:54) Understood, thank you for the info

  Joly MacFie: (16:54) You'd need a translator too Judith

  CFITechnician Brian: (16:54) addtinally, i am happy to email it to you if you provide your email address

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:55) FYI, Adobe Connect ioS app shows unsupported content for the pod

  Joly MacFie: (16:55) Thanks Dev

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:55) but as Josh says, the URL would work

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:56) This was very interesting and useful

  silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:56) thank you for the demo

  judith hellerstein: (16:59) Actually you had said they were 18 an hour with the discount

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:59) Thank you for the demo - that's great

  judith hellerstein: (16:59) Glad everyone liked it, which is why we were pressing for it to be demoed

  Glenn McKnight: (16:59) thanks

  Yasuichi Kitamura (ISOC-JP): (16:59) Thank you. bye bye.

  judith hellerstein: (16:59) bye

  Gordon Chillcott: (16:59) Thank you.

  Gunela Astbrink: (16:59) Bye

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:00) Thanks all

  Nathalie  Peregrine: (17:00) The AC recording of the demo will be posted on the Agenda page

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:00) bye