NARALO 2012.06.18 AC Transcript

  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the NARALO call on Monday 18 June 2012
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/ZgqSBg
  Gisella Gruber-White:Action Item from 14 May 2012: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/6WeSBg
  Glenn McKnight:Hi
  Eduardo Diaz:@Gisella - Hoal again!
  Eduardo Diaz:I mean Hola again!
  Alan Greenberg:I'm sure it is "Hoal" in SOME language.
  Silvia Vivanco 2:Hello everyone
  Gisella Gruber-White:Olivier Crepin Leblond has joined the call
  Gisella Gruber-White:Cintra Sooknanan has joined the call
  Alan Greenberg:I need to step away for a few minutes. Will be back.
  Joly MacFie:print more brochures
  Gisella Gruber-White:Olivier dropped - joining shortly again
  Heidi Ullrich:Apologies, I've not yet heard back from Meetings Staff on the table request.
  Heidi Ullrich:I will be dropping off of the AC shortly
  Glenn McKnight:Who will print and provide brochures?
  seth reiss:Just joined.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Seth
  seth reiss:thanks!
  Cintra Sooknanan:Hello, finally in adobe
  Alan Greenberg:Back.
  Garth Bruen 2:Phew, here now
  Garth Bruen 2:FYI: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20120618_whois_review_and_beyond_378
  seth reiss:me too!
  Cintra Sooknanan:and me :)
  Joly MacFie:Glenn - the (litho printed?) brochures from ICANN were far superior to any lasr version - since the type is so small - that's the only option
  seth reiss:Cintra, I think they are talking about the Review Group - I thought you were on the other group?
  Glenn McKnight:Is staff going to place the order for brochures and how many?
  Cintra Sooknanan:Hi Seth, you're right Im on the gTLD WG but observing the RG work and liaising between both groups
  Gisella Gruber-White:Evan has joined the call
  seth reiss:Understood - I am glad you are liaising and observing us :)
  Allan Skuce:Having to go to another meetng. Cheers.
  Evan Leibovitch:sorry. Pulled away
  Garth Bruen 2:9 case studies:
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_BIZCN_061612.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_CORE_061812.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_INTERNETBS_061612.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_MONIKER_061712.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_NET4INDIA_06162012.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_ONLINENIC_06162012.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_PTARDH_061512.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_UKRNAMES_061812.pdfhttp://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_URLSOLUTIONS_061612.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:that's a mess, I'll try again
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_BIZCN_061612.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_CORE_061812.pdf
  Evan Leibovitch:It's all a mess, and the URL has nothing to do with it.
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_INTERNETBS_061612.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_MONIKER_061712.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_NET4INDIA_06162012.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_ONLINENIC_06162012.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_PTARDH_061512.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_UKRNAMES_061812.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:http://knujon.com/PRAGUE_icann_378_fail_URLSOLUTIONS_061612.pdf
  Garth Bruen 2:As Beau mentioned RAA 378 is not enforcable, the WIRT confirmed this
  Garth Bruen 2:I sent this out over the weekend
  Garth Bruen 2:I'd like you to take a look at this ICANN flowchart entitled "ICANN Compliance Program for Registries and Registrars"
  Garth Bruen 2:http://www.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/flowchart
  Garth Bruen 2:First, run through the flow a few times in your mind. What does Compliance REALLY do according to this chart?
  Garth Bruen 2:Second, run through the flow with the specific hypothetical of a contracted party who is in breach of the contract.
  Garth Bruen 2:There are only three paths in this flow. 1) the complaint is dismissed out of hand by Compliance, 2) the complaint is "resolved" with the contracted party, OR 3) there is an endless loop of data collection from the complainant.
  Garth Bruen 2:There is no enforcement avenue in this scheme, it is not part of their function.
  Glenn McKnight:Hard to hear
  Garth Bruen 2:If one takes this flowchart to be true, the function of Compliance is to throw complaints away or place them in a holding pattern of paper shuffling. This is not an outside evaluation of the process, this is ICANN's own presentation.
  seth reiss:stepped away
  seth reiss:back
  Alan Greenberg:I've got to go now.  Good call.
  Evan Leibovitch:Thanks all.
  Gordon Chillcott:thanks, all!
  Cintra Sooknanan:bye bye ...
  seth reiss:ciao