AC Chat: 2017-11-21 EURALO Monthly Teleconference
- Yesim Saglam
- Aleksey Khapchenko
- Claudia Ruiz
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome to the EURALO Monthly TeleconferenceTuesday, 21 November 2017
Claudia Ruiz:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/XDRKBg
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Danko
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Yrjo Lansipuro
Claudia Ruiz:Hello Andrei
Yrjö Länsipuro:Hello Claudia and all
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Silvia Vivanco:welcome
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Wale
Wale Bakare:Hi, Claudia
Wale Bakare:Thank you
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Christopher
Bastiaan Goslings:Just to confirm: how long is this call scheduled for? I have 60min in my agenda...
Gisella Gruber:Bastiann - 90 minutes
Christopher Wilkinson:Where are they? Recovering from Abu Dhabi overload…
Bastiaan Goslings:@Gisella: thx, I copy/pasted from 14-11 message which says 60min
Bastiaan Goslings:We'll see ;-)
Tatiana Tropina:Hi all - sorry for being late.
Christopher Wilkinson:Olivier: we need a short point about geo-names: WT5 participants, ALAC RALO delegates, mentoring of new members etc.
Tatiana Tropina:Oh really - you don't want to add WT% in the hot topic doc??
Tatiana Tropina:WT5 sorry
Tatiana Tropina:This is going to be a very hot topic in 2018
Silvia Vivanco:Action Items completed: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_EURALO_Action-2BItems-25253A-2B2017-2D10-2D17-2BEURALO-2BMonthly-2BTeleconference&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=pOcAPhKqost_0i6Btbpryayc9C6ZoEswX-LBw1M6kOM&e=
Silvia Vivanco:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/EURALO/pages/105526002/EURALO+Secretariat+Election+2017
Wale Bakare:Vice-chair Individual Users till October 2017, but now board member
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome to your new role Wale
Wale Bakare:Thanks, Silvia
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Jean
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello All, sorry for being 14 minutes late!
Heidi Ullrich:Many thanks for all of your hard work - and successes! Great job, Wolf!
Wale Bakare:Thank you Wolf
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you VERY MUCH for your great leadership Wolf!
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Gratitude to Wolf, welcome to 'Wale!
Tatiana Tropina:Thank you very much Wolf. You have done so much for EURALO and for IG community in general - and you continue doing it.
Erich Schweighofer:Danke für deine langjährige Arbiet, Wolf!
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:ACCLAMATION!!!!
Matthias Hudobnik:Vielen Dank lieber Wolf!!!
Wolf Ludwig:Thanks -- I am touched by your compliments!
Heidi Ullrich:Hoch soll er Leben!! :)
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Sebastien
Sebastien (ALAC):Sorry to be late
Tatiana Tropina:oi
Christopher Wilkinson:About PDP WT4 (goe-names) it would help me as ALAC 'co-lead' to know which EURALO members have joined the WT5 and have views about protection and use of geographical names(terms/indications etc. Please send me an e-mail. cw@christopherwilkinson.eu
Christopher Wilkinson:that is WT5
Silvia Vivanco:At-Large Policy Advice Development Page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_alacpolicydev_At-2DLarge-2BPolicy-2BAdvice-2BDevelopment-2BPage&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=PqJynI0LjesG8xv_5b-nxDWj9dMDVlYwFoy8e77lYYI&e=
Claudia Ruiz:Welcome Anne Marie Joly
Christopher Wilkinson:What happened after the ALAC postion was Adopted?
Tatiana Tropina:Who's drafting jurisdiction comment at ALAC?
Wolf Ludwig:Cannot hear him!
Tatiana Tropina:chance? it'sa thankless work. Ok I take this over.
Christopher Wilkinson:@Tatania: I have followed the Jurisdiction WG, and have most of the documents, but I am NOT voluntteering to hold the pen?
Gisella Gruber:@ Sebastien - we are dialling out to you
Erich Schweighofer:I may participate in drafting a document.
Bastiaan Goslings:that sounds better, SeB]
Tatiana Tropina:That was Sebastian :D
Tatiana Tropina:No no I didn't lead jurisdiction but agree that I can't be the main penholder for Jurisdiction as I have very strong opinions
Tatiana Tropina:this is why I was asking who's drafting on ALAC side
Sebastien (ALAC):I know Tatiana
Tatiana Tropina:I can't draft Ombudsman as well because I have too many things to say and Sebastien will hate me :)
Bastiaan Goslings:I don't know what status is re ALAC drafting a statement/comment on Jurisdiction work. I can raise this tomorrow @ALAC LT call.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Staff, could you please provide on screen the link to the topic Olivier just mentioned?
Sebastien (ALAC):I will not Tatiana
Tatiana Tropina:Bastiaan, ok - right - (and Olivier) - I defintely can join
Bastiaan Goslings:@Erich I would not mind helping to drfat something
Wale Bakare:the reserve funds is somehow in connection with AP Fund
Tatiana Tropina:Awesome. Bastian I can join you
Sebastien (ALAC):Yes Wale but not this time
Tatiana Tropina:I mean at some stage
Erich Schweighofer:Yes, I will participate.
Tatiana Tropina:Cool.
Tatiana Tropina:we keep losing people :-)
Bastiaan Goslings:we're SO cool
Tatiana Tropina:Bastiaan, we are beyond cool - we are almost unimaginable.
Christopher Wilkinson:Jurisdiction: lthe public consulatation is at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_recommendations-2Don-2Dicann-2Djurisdiction-2D2017-2D11-2D14-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=ARulUT-f2PCsshUFLPnkyvXZDTINF3s4TPhYkS0Rgx8&e=
Wale Bakare:The level of reserve funds required is 12 months ICANN operation
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Erich: "Yes, I will participate." --- in what process/consultation?
Wale Bakare:maybe between $95 - $100
Wale Bakare:million
Erich Schweighofer:jurisdiction consultation
Bastiaan Goslings:@Erich: nice one!
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier, it was about fund.
Silvia Vivanco:Please when you volunteer to hold the pen or contribute, kindly indicate the Public consultation title
Bastiaan Goslings:I agree, Olivier
Bastiaan Goslings:question was though what the ALAC was doing
Sebastien (ALAC):@Bastiaan I will say for the moment nothing
Tatiana Tropina::D
Bastiaan Goslings:for the moment? ;-)
Tatiana Tropina::D :D :D
Sebastien (ALAC):because all the "usual" pen holder are already part of the work done by the ccwg WS2
Wale Bakare:would that require a new mechanism(s) for accessing and sharing of individual's private data
Wale Bakare:?
Silvia Vivanco:ALAC Subcommittee on Finance and Budget: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99687730/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Finance+and+Budget=
Silvia Vivanco:The ALAC Subcommittee on Finance and Budget (FSBC) is tasked with preparing statements and requests related to ALAC strategy and finance. The FSBC is a diverse group geographically, which requires at least one member from the ALAC representing an Regional At-Large Organisation (RALO), and at least two At-Large members from each RALO.All FBSC calls are open to observers, but membership of the working group is closed. Only RALOs may nominate members to the FBSC, upon request of the Chair of the FBSC.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Sébastien, your audio is weak.
Bastiaan Goslings:Sorry SeB - I did not get that
Silvia Vivanco:ALAC Subcommittee on Appointee Selection:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99705818/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Appointee+Selection
Bastiaan Goslings:But I am fine being the FBSC ALAC meber from EURALO - just to confirm
Sebastien (ALAC):I confirm that you Bastiann are the ALAC rep to the FBSC
Bastiaan Goslings:Wunderbar
Bastiaan Goslings:;-)
Sebastien (ALAC):and that I will participate also
Bastiaan Goslings:Execellent
Sebastien (ALAC):and I would like to add to the responsability of the FBSC - reserve fund
annette:As we seem not to have enough items on the agenda :-) , if the IGF 2019 takes place in Germany, I am happy to help to prepare with all of you EURALO issues for this IGF
Silvia Vivanco:EURALO Board 2017-2019 : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_EURALO_EURALO-2BBoard-2B2017-2D2019-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=A0WYbc1wifAQKHkhUZDDLb5kGpO40uXDeWyJohMQsfU&e=
Silvia Vivanco:Current EURALO Board members: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D57999569&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=jFK5aIcrxVCoxAyZ5edfIs2MdKOlSJl7nv1Gv6G5oqc&e=
Wale Bakare:That's a welcome news, @Annette.
Silvia Vivanco:email by Jean Jacques Subrenant
annette::-) @ Wale
annette:agree with Yrjö
Erich Schweighofer:+1 Yrjö
Bastiaan Goslings:I am in the middle here
Bastiaan Goslings:JJ's proposal makes sense to me
Bastiaan Goslings:But if Yrjo says that the work -in the current board- is evenly distributed....
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Bastiaan and All: it's true that my proposal was some time ago, about the Board of some time ago...
Erich Schweighofer:informal distribution is working
Wolf Ludwig:Sorry -- I have another appointment and need to leave this call. Good bye and evening to all!
Erich Schweighofer:servusi, Woflgang.
annette:thank you wolf for everything!
Bastiaan Goslings:thanks, Wolf - take care
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you Wolf!
Silvia Vivanco:Staff will send a call for nominations in coordination with OLivier and Wale
Silvia Vivanco:EURALO monthly reports:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/EURALO/pages/105521626/2017+EURALO+Secretariat+Monthly+Reports
Silvia Vivanco:RIPE- EURALO MOU page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_EURALO_RIPE-2B-2D-2BEURALO-2BMOU&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=UTtqQi-cKQDPz2-vGIL9bsDtrlwV8rQgy1dgdu3R_ak&e=
Silvia Vivanco:RIPE MOU signature, pictures and text is documented in the wiki page above
Wale Bakare:You can read the previous monthly reports from that link and also, members will get each monthly report posted in mailing list
Silvia Vivanco:EURALO hot topics: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/EURALO/pages/105525988/EURALO+Hot+Topics+2017=
Silvia Vivanco:We can add the Hot topics to the RALO Secretariats meeting
Silvia Vivanco:NARALO, AFRALO, APRALO are working on their Hot topics
Silvia Vivanco:At-Large Outreach activities at IGF 2017 Geneva: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BOutreach-2Bactivities-2Bat-2BIGF-2B2017-2BGeneva&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=jLo_Ay2jNni1o1KK86j6OsrnaLQu1dB42N042qGYARo&s=te_Ta4ftUvu8CACbjRCQKdkm6qtRLF1rNYj4fQ5D_1A&e=
Silvia Vivanco:For all details on IGF preparations see the wiki page posted above
Tatiana Tropina:Me.
Bastiaan Goslings:Staff: I will be @IGF
annette:planning to attend
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:I am preparing to attend IGF Geneva.
Erich Schweighofer:I also plan to attend.
annette:still need hotel :-(
Heidi Ullrich:Adaptors
Tatiana Tropina:Oh adaptors are brilliant.
Fotjon Kosta:i planning to attend but needs fundings :(
Tatiana Tropina:Can I grab one?
Heidi Ullrich:Please put your workshops on the workspace
Heidi Ullrich:and list if you will be participating
Wale Bakare:At-Large materials to handout - 1) Adapter 2) Pin to attach to cloth
Heidi Ullrich:Also, if you are oging, PLEASE register and bring your picture ID to the venue each day
Matthias Hudobnik:i am planning to attend as well :-)
Bastiaan Goslings:a great, another mailing-list
Tatiana Tropina:that is very convincing - please be so kind to add me to the "going to IGF" list :-)
Tatiana Tropina:(that was an official request - I am attending IGF)
Bastiaan Goslings:You have my permission
Silvia Vivanco:displayed on screen
Silvia Vivanco:more details will be added
Silvia Vivanco:Kick off and Submission Period is 15/12/2017
Wale Bakare:@Silvia, did you mean deadline is 15/12/2017?
Silvia Vivanco:the start as stated in the wiki is 15-12
Silvia Vivanco:the end is not specified yet, the timeline will be completed shortly
Tatiana Tropina:I am represented at Studienkreis
Tatiana Tropina:you mean that EURALO chair is not represented, right? :-)
Sebastien (ALAC):Not civil society but END USERS!!!!
Wale Bakare:Geo-names?
Tatiana Tropina:Sebastien, er, am a EURALO member. You gotta argue that am not a valuable end user for your dear EURALO?
Sebastien (ALAC):Yes you are Tatiana, but it is long discussion
Tatiana Tropina:And BTW Sandra is represented at Studienkreis, so EURALO is quite represented ;-)
Matthias Hudobnik:Staff, please can you add me to the EURALO IGF mailinglist aswell thx :-)!
Sebastien (ALAC):about why staff is pushing for CS and not EU
Yrjö Länsipuro:I have been on many Studienkreis meetings, too...
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Christopher, yes, and the overall conclusion was ''let's not rock the boat'' ?
Tatiana Tropina:Yeah see - we are there!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Sandra is an organiser so not really able to push end user agenda
Tatiana Tropina:What kid of end user agenda are you going to push at Studienkreis, if I may ask? It's a discussion venue.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:end user perspective
Tatiana Tropina:ah.
Sebastien (ALAC):@staff please can you add me on the mailing list as I intend to participate to IGF in GVA. Thanks
Tatiana Tropina:ALAC has no position as members have different positions
Silvia Vivanco:wiki with records of the last call above
Tatiana Tropina:If EURALO is going to push for any protection - I can definitely say that EURALO has no united position
Bastiaan Goslings:@Tatiana: indeed, no consensus/shared position
Tatiana Tropina:They are hot topic, Olivier
Bastiaan Goslings:I agree, tatiana
Tatiana Tropina:there are some European ccTLDs that are asking questions about geo names protection
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier, we could/should take a position, such as obliging us to consider a European participant to be considered as being in the Asia-Pacific region!
Tatiana Tropina:Olivier you are a bit not aware
Danko Jevtović:I have to go, thanks all
annette:sorry, i have to leave, all the best!
Tatiana Tropina:I am a member of WT5 but I am there as NCSG member as we have a particular position and am not sure it's aligned with EURALO or ALAC (for the absense of thereof)
Bastiaan Goslings:a (co)chair of a WT is not meant to have a poistion per se her/himself right?
Tatiana Tropina:thanks all -- long long call. Bye.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Bye all!
Erich Schweighofer:Servus from Vienna, Bye all. Next time hopefully shorter.
Fotjon Kosta:thank you to all so much, Bye Bye all
Wale Bakare:Thanks, bye all!
Silvia Vivanco:Servus Erich!
Bastiaan Goslings:Thanks, folks
Yrjö Länsipuro:Bye bye!
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all!
Gisella Gruber:Thank you all! Good evening/night
Matthias Hudobnik:bye bye from graz :-)
Silvia Vivanco:Have a nice evening in Europe :)
Silvia Vivanco:Tchuss Matthias :)!