AC Chat: 2017.06.14 EURALO Bylaws Taskforce Call

  Yesim Nazlar:Welcome to the EURALO Bylaws Taskforce Call on Wednesday, 14 June 2017 at 18:00 UTC

  Yesim Nazlar:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/kypKBg

  Roberto - test:It has still taken the old test credentials - I will try again

  Roberto Gaetano:Excellent - thanks!

  Yesim Nazlar:you're welcome!

  Roberto Gaetano:Muting until the beginning - Thanks Yesim (sorry, don't have the correct "s" on my keyboard

  Florian Hule:Hi everyone!

  Yesim Nazlar:no problem Roberto - very kind of you :)

  Yesim Nazlar:Welcome Florian

  Oksana Prykhodko:Hi everyone!

  Roberto Gaetano:Yesterday Riga, 13 deg rain, today Vienna 30 deg sunshine

  Roberto Gaetano:no long call? I will believe when I see it

  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all welcome

  Silvia Vivanco:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/EURALO/Action+Items%253A+2017.05.31+EURALO+Bylaws+Taskforce+Call

  Roberto Gaetano:no comments

  Roberto Gaetano:no comments

  Oksana Prykhodko:+1 arbitration panel

  Florian Hule:panel is a better term

  Wolf Ludwig:Why nt on demand?

  Oksana Prykhodko:I like the whole idea (with only correction regarding panel)

  Florian Hule:Not entirely sure if we can completly opt-out from swiss civil law.

  Oksana Prykhodko:Are there any precedents of apllying to national courts in other RALOs?

  Silvia Vivanco:no mention of any jurisdiction courts in other RALOs ROPs that I can remember

  Silvia Vivanco:I can check

  Oksana Prykhodko:Thank you, Silvia!

  Wolf Ludwig:Can't remember any such a court case.

  Oksana Prykhodko:sorry, I have some technical problems(

  Oksana Prykhodko:Yes, Wolf, I understand it, and I like the whole idea

  Wolf Ludwig:No

  Oksana Prykhodko:@Olivier - not the Board!

  Oksana Prykhodko:+1@Wolf!

  Florian Hule:A very easy and widely used selection process is: both dispute parties each recommend one panel-member and these two look for a third one.

  Oksana Prykhodko:with the right to protest any person from affected party

  Florian Hule:of course

  Roberto Gaetano:+1 Florian

  Wolf Ludwig:Would be another reasonable option

  Florian Hule:Has the advantage of  not calling a general assembly

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Florian -- we would prbably just do an online vote

  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:so not a need to call up a general assembly as such

  Wolf Ludwig:Valid point, Roberto

  Florian Hule:Never mind, Wolf essentialy made my point.

  Silvia Vivanco:yes correct

  Florian Hule:fitting joke

  Roberto Gaetano:I live in Vienna but I am not the third man

  Silvia Vivanco:We kept the last  draft dated 31.05

  Silvia Vivanco:just for you to have it

  Silvia Vivanco:in case you wantes to review

  Wolf Ludwig:You are far too young for the Vienna Third Man, Roberto ;-)

  Roberto Gaetano:maybe the fourth... :)

  Wolf Ludwig:and without all the nasty qualities of the 3rd hopefully ...

  Silvia Vivanco:Table of proposed quorum: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1NNdRi0T-2Dol-5FytvxhGYB6aTAe3QqeTnxd0hCPG7fKsQw_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=gO821v1xQ3j_TVlnZoXAB0M6w37iztlPYJnpfFNJRss&s=7uFjCX_OBpx5SbBJ0ADKwqMSQWc073bfoQwERU-EuTE&e=

  Roberto Gaetano:no comments on this

  Roberto Gaetano:I assume that we will set basline default rules - in specific cases, a different method can be used, either mandated by a higher authority, or decided by EURALO

  Roberto Gaetano:Shall we say 50%+1, so that we have a majority - as 50% is not

  Wolf Ludwig:Good point Roberto!

  Oksana Prykhodko:50%+1

  Florian Hule:Roberto +1

  Wolf Ludwig:50% can be contested by the other half!

  Oksana Prykhodko:50%+1

  Oksana Prykhodko:+1@Roberto

  Wolf Ludwig:But you cannot enforce it ... And be cautious with sanctions ...

  Roberto Gaetano:I am well known for provoking wars

  Roberto Gaetano:Oh yes I can can - they can complain

  Oksana Prykhodko:Which privacy regarding organizations?

  Wolf Ludwig:In a volunnteers community people have sort of privacy rights even in organizations.

  Roberto Gaetano:Oksana has a point - I will publish not the names of the representatives but the ALS who have not participated

  Wolf Ludwig:Naming the ALS could work

  Oksana Prykhodko:I am extremely sorry, I have to leave the meeting(

  Roberto Gaetano:Wolf has a point, we need to think more about the impact of abstension

  Roberto Gaetano:I hope that Florian comes up with a good idea about abstension...

  Roberto Gaetano:Think what Maria Theresia would have done about it

  Silvia Vivanco:AI: Group to think about abstentions  :)

  Roberto Gaetano:Who will be in JB?

  Florian Hule:Fine