Technology Taskforce meeting 2015-07-20 Chat transcript

  Terri Agnew: (7/20/2015 15:17) Dear all, welcome to the At-Large Technology Taskforce meeting on the 20th July 2015 at 14:00 UTC
  Terri Agnew: (15:18) meeting page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/iB3vBQ
  judith hellerstein: (15:59) HI All
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:59) Hello everyone and welcome to the TTF call
  Glenn McKnight: (15:59) hi
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:00) I am here to watch and listen. No audio......
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:00) Thank you
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:01) Hi everyone again
  Glenn McKnight: (16:02) I am sharing some  pictures of  early  US  inventions in computing from the US  American History Museum
  Glenn McKnight: (16:02) https://www.flickr.com/photos/glennmcknight/sets/72157655867553146
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:04) Mario Aleman has joined the AC room
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:05) I cant hear anything..
  judith hellerstein: (16:06) Also Sam Lanfranco from NPOC
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:07) Niran Beharry has joined the AC room
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:07) https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/At-Large+Technology+Taskforce+Action+Item+Report
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:07) Juan Manuel, do you need a dial out?
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:07) the AC audio works .
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:08) I was on dial out... I will hear through AC then.
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:08) http://www.kavi.com/)
  Niran Beharry: (16:08) I can hear fine
  judith hellerstein: (16:09) so can I so AC works well
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:09) thanks Niran and Judith for confirming
  Glenn McKnight: (16:09) ARIN  is quite good in their  process in policy development.  Not sure what tool they use
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:09) The GNSO Data and Metrics for Policy Making WG was piloting Kavi
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:10) Juan, we're dialing you back
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:10) I am hearing AC audio, but I wont have voice..
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:10) dont worry...
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:10) unless you re happy on AC audio
  Glenn McKnight: (16:10) Wow a big  price jump from Free to 600 a month
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:10) a little low
  Gordon Chillcott: (16:10) I hear you
  judith hellerstein: (16:10) Yes all clear
  Niran Beharry: (16:10) yep perfect
  Glenn McKnight: (16:10) fine
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:11) I can hear you fine
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:11) Im back on dial out
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:11) excellent!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:12) hmm now I'm not hearing
  Glenn McKnight: (16:12) Was the trial  a full version?
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:12) @ Dev, can we dial out to you
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:12) as AC audio is working fine
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:12) hmm ok, let me come out and join back in
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:12) keep going
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:12) ok thanks
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:14) Evan Leibovitch has joined the AC room
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:14) ok, still not hearing audio - getting a dialout
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:14) hi all.
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:14) dialing out to you now Dev
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:15) Hello Evan, welcome
  judith hellerstein: (16:15) Hi Evan
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:16) I came in because I was told there weren't enough Canadians on the call.
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:17) back in and hearing audio
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:18) excellet
  Niran Beharry: (16:19) how does the costing stack up against other packages ?
  Niran Beharry: (16:19) such as https://www.bitrix24.com/
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:22) Olivier Crepin-Leblond has joined the call
  judith hellerstein: (16:23) Do we have a list of people who joined each call
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (16:23) apologies for lat arrival. I am in Nice airport waiting for a flight
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:23) Olivier, would you like us to dial out to you on your FR mobile?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (16:24) @Nathalie - that would be great, thanks!
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:25) Steve, listening to your tone of voice and a few comments, it doesn't seem that you're too crazy about Kavi. Safe to say you're not recommending it?
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:25) dialing out to you now Olivier
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:26) Yes, every ALAC WG has a charter
  judith hellerstein: (16:26) I do not think the TTF has a charter
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:26) It's not a WG ;-)
  judith hellerstein: (16:27) when we were thinking of expanding it one of the issues we came up with is tht we did not have  a charter
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:28) Curious about the Project Management capabiolity
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:29) I think Dev's question was whether the site is Responsive; that is, do they have a mobile optimised interface?
  judith hellerstein: (16:29) yes. i agee
  judith hellerstein: (16:30) Does it work with different operating platforms?
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:30) How can integrate this tool with learning platform and icann website?
  judith hellerstein: (16:30) especially on mobile
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:31) doesn't an app if the site has a decent mobile browswer interface.
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:31) doesn't NEED an app...
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:31) The challenge for any platform used by a diverse group, in contrast to a well-defined work group within an organization, is that it has to be simple to keep focus on the work at hand. Each of us is using multiple tools across our different work groups and this presents a challenge.
  Glenn McKnight: (16:32) What did the test subjects  think?
  judith hellerstein: (16:32) I was talking about, mac, linux,pc, ios, android
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:33) What about translating and include content in other languages as spanish, french and so on.
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:33) Steve, there's no Flash on the site, right? Recent news suggests that anything we look at ought not to have ANY flash.
  Steve Allison: (16:33) no flash
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:34) thanks
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:34) One useful approach is to have a process moderator (usually using ordinary email) to keep the group focused on the work flow and keep the “to do” tasks on schedule.
  judith hellerstein: (16:36) Has the site been tested for accessibility issues
  judith hellerstein: (16:38) Will the roster track who comes to each meeting or working group
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:41) 5 mins left for this topic
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:42) if it's a cloud service, the OS is irrelevant. it depends on the browser more than Windiows/Linux
  judith hellerstein: (16:43) Thanks
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:43) What I'm seeing this is an integrated approach to policy management ; this replaces bigpulse, email lists via mailman, document files, wiki page for Public comment pages where draft is posted, comments received, 2nd draft posted, and then vote done by ALAC to ratify the final statement
  Niran Beharry: (16:44) agreed
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:44) but it would require going all in
  Niran Beharry: (16:45) yes
  Glenn McKnight: (16:46) No idea if the product is recommended
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:48) sounds as a good tool to give a chance
  Niran Beharry: (16:48) seeems to be good for what i seen so far
  Evan Leibovitch: (16:51) Agreed. Either we buy intio the design of the cloud service or we don't. Features for them have to be fairly universal in appeal.
  Steve Allison: (16:52)  I can coordinate a pilot on behalf of at-large
  Glenn McKnight: (16:52) I dont this  accessibility is the main issue the main issue is  productivity of the tool  Can it function well
  Glenn McKnight: (16:53) Will it be used?
  Steve Allison: (16:53) correct
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:55) @Olivier  The hand holding moderator for the non-core group is often a viable alternative to either customization (difficult) or total buy-in (difficult). Humans will be humans (-: !
  judith hellerstein: (16:56) yes
  Niran Beharry: (16:56) yep
  Gordon Chillcott: (16:56) I see it
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (16:56) yes
  Glenn McKnight: (16:56) yes
  Nathalie  Peregrine: (16:56) If writing is too small: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/gwzxBQ
  Glenn McKnight: (16:56) Never  used it
  judith hellerstein: (16:57) never heard of it
  Glenn McKnight: (16:58) Naralo is still working on their  Draft  CROPP  strategy
  Glenn McKnight: (16:59) I guess  we don't have time to provide  updates on Captioning and  Ebooks  today
  Sam Lanfranco: (16:59) All, Thanks for the discussion on kavi. Leaving now to tend to farm work. Bye
  Glenn McKnight: (16:59) I need to do the same  to repair   10 hydraulic  lines on my tractor
  judith hellerstein: (17:00) Not sure why we need this.  if subscribe have to get all te events even if you only wnat 1-2
  Niran Beharry: (17:07) so i think what she wants to know is if i subscribe for say 2 groups would it merge just those to my one calender
  Alfredo Calderon: (17:07) I can do this with GMAIL.
  Evan Leibovitch: (17:08) sorry I need to go
  Evan Leibovitch: (17:08) The idea looks good
  Niran Beharry: (17:09) i think it good for segmenation and merging to filter the events we interested in
  judith hellerstein: (17:09) yes.  I just did not want to add items I was not interested in to my calendar
  judith hellerstein: (17:09) and then have to delete them
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (17:11) I believe this could create confusion
  judith hellerstein: (17:12) But our NARALO RT people sometimes do not share with other
  Alfredo Calderon: (17:12) Thanks
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (17:12) keep things simple :-)
  judith hellerstein: (17:12) yes let's keep it simple
  Gordon Chillcott: (17:12) Thanks, Dev
  Juan Manuel Rojas: (17:12) Thanks
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:12) @Juan - it won't be for a RALO - there would get one link and one calendar to edit/update
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:13) @judith - indeed better collobartion has to happen between Outreach and Engagement and RALOs
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:14) Pity no time indeed for updates to ebook and captioning