ALAC 22.11.11 Chat EN
- Nathalie Peregrine
- gisella.gruber-white
Sergio Salinas Porto:hi everyone
CLO:Hi there Sergio
Sandra Hoferichter:hi Gisela, I lost connection could you please ask to call again.
Yaovi Atohoun 2:Hi Everyone. I wil join the call at 16:00
Jose Arce:Hi All
Sandra Hoferichter:thanks I am in again
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Good Morning from Fiji (4am) here
Cintra Sooknanan:Hi everyone
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:hello everyone
CLO:And Ive been disconnected
CLO:one of those days AGAIN GRRR
CLO:this is hhappening WAY too much agin I know I live in an emerging and developing economy woth poor ICT and telco connections to the world but!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I confirm that I am hearing you all on the call
Ganesh Kumar:Ganesh, here too.
Evan Leibovitch:me too
CLO:back
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Gisella, I'm sorry but the number for dial in doesn't work for Malaysia - it says number is not currently active. Can you call me on my landline pls?
Alan Greenberg:Can I have 2 minutes duringthe section on Liaison reports (or elsewhere) to raise an issue that requires serious ALAC attention in the very short term?
Natalia Enciso:hi!
Eduardo Diaz:I am here!
CLO:Rinnalia get a dial out to you
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am officially awake now
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Evan Leibovitch:By contrast, my waking state is to tally unofficial
Sergio Salinas Porto:+54 0223 4715948
Evan Leibovitch:4th tues of 2011 is also the 27th
Evan Leibovitch:of december
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+60320220441
Natalia Enciso:Hello everyone!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Natalia!
TT:Hi all
Cintra Sooknanan:Hi TT
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi TT
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Rinalia
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Sergio (hope you get the Spanish translation soon)
Alan Greenberg:That doesn't sound good!
TT:Hi on the call and here too
Evan Leibovitch:my computer is penguin based
Sergio Salinas Porto:hi sala !!!!!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:my computer is not fruit based :)
Natalia Enciso:Hi Sala!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Natalia and Sergio :)
Ganesh Kumar:@tijani: if we have time for that!
Alan Greenberg:Tijani, good subject,(how to shorten calls, but unfortunately our call is too long to allow us to talk about it! (Joke, perhaps).
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Excellent pronounciation Heidi :)
Edmon:I might have missed the roll call
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Interesting agenda item by Tijani
Edmon:anyway I am here too
Cintra Sooknanan:lol @ Alan
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Can't seem to get a dial out
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Charles is in flight I think
Edmon:thx cheryl :-D
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:oops sorry blame it on the sleep
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:wrong forum
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:apologies
CLO:Rinalia does staff have a number to call YOU ion *ADIGO will dial out to you
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello all
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Heidi has the number and working on it
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am not following with the Action Items that Olivier is referring to
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Do you mean the stuff on my right
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Noted
Heidi Ullrich:Link to the AIs:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/ALAC+Action+Items+23-27+October+-+Dakar+Meeting
Matt Ashtiani:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/m_j2BQ- ALAC Action Items 23-27 October - Dakar Meeting
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:got in!
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Thanks!!
CLO:Yea! at last
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am seeing it for the first time, thanks for the link Heidi
CLO:best to order a standing dial out then they do those 5-10 mins before stsrt time...
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:agreed!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Web links on the "Web Links 2" box are out of date or not for this meeting
CLO:yes I niticed that :-(
CLO:Beat me to it Heidi Process is the vote accepts or not the advice sent
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Our ALS has not received anything
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:but we received a bulletin from Tracy Hackshaw
Eduardo Diaz:How the status for each action item is going to be added to the list?
Natalia Enciso:I will need a call back, please!
Sergio Salinas Porto:is the call of Natalia
CLO:Mechanisms do indeed exist for this and as such it needs to be wrapped in woth the Metrics sub group
Sergio Salinas Porto:@¶olivier, I would take the Falklands and integrate the WG ... I should do?
Evan Leibovitch:I for one like the format of the action item page .... nice work, Matt
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Like the format and layout the Actions Items
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Indeed, nice work, Matt
Natalia Enciso:I am back, thanks!
Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia, are you not on the call?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Have you got your translation yet?
Heidi Ullrich:We'll correct the issue of the AI - Tijani is not responsible for the nomenclature AI
Sergio Salinas Porto:Sorry Falklands or Malvinas ;)
Eduardo Diaz:How are we goig to capture all these status reports in the wiki action item page?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Which one are we on
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am just clicking on the triangles now
Sergio Salinas Porto:I can not speak, but if you write on here ....
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:i'm in Heidi. Listening!
Heidi Ullrich:Great!
Sergio Salinas Porto:I intergrade a wg on the Malvinas, is not what he asked? or misunderstood?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:it was just the issue re: Malvinas in the Geo Regions wg; I expect this issue to be mentioned in our statement.
Sebastien:http://newgtlds.icann.org/program-status/upcoming-events
Sebastien:=Road show
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:It would be great if the Action Items can be moving on the right of our Adobe Connect Room
Heidi Ullrich:Link to new gTLD events:http://newgtlds.icann.org/program-status/upcoming-events
Natalia Enciso:agree @sala
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Trying to follow the action items screen means going to another screen and coming back to this, is a nightmare when you are just waking up
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:and it's all super fast
Silvia Vivanco:Sergio has clarified his idea regarding Malvinas. He has expressed his willingness to take part of the Working Group
Sebastien:You maybe discuss that with the CHiar of the PPC ;)
CLO:@Sala I open two screens but minimise each to take only half the screen and I'm on a 11" screen seems to work for me better
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:i normally do that when I am drafting but the font size of the adobe does not allow me to do that
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I would not be able to read and would have to reset
Natalia Enciso:agree with @Sala, going to fast to change from one windows to another.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:[Suggestion, perhaps Chair can ask for progress reports on the Action items and this is summarised and placed on wiki or something and anything that stands out or demands discussions can then be addressed
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so we can read before we come and address only the outstanding issues
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:that or please slow down 2 paces to allow us to follow well
Natalia Enciso:agre @Sala LOL
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Better pace now
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry - I feel time pressures
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:hence the suggestion above
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Much better pace
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:easy to follow and understand
Natalia Enciso:thanks
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Olivier
CLO:NCSG NOIT NCUC
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Hello Sala -- suggestion taken re: report, but we need to read through the list for the record
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Your discretion Chair
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Mere proposal from a fly on the wall
Sandra Hoferichter:This is done
Sandra Hoferichter:we received the material
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Awesome
CLO:we do of course have thr commoms created out of the Board requested joint GNSO ALAC wg on end user involvement in GNSO wher at tthat stage the NCUC and ALAC agreed to have the Commins space that could be repurposed for NCSG : ALAC / At-Large use without too mjch issue IF NCSG wishes
Cintra Sooknanan 2:I'm fascinated by the fact that you can change text colour Sandra
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Me too
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:absolutely fascinated
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2::-) It can be done by anyone
Cintra Sooknanan 2:could come in handy during Lacralo calls....
CLO:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/Consumer+Commons
TT:Yes it can.
TT:re: Voting link svp? or via email?
TT:No clear info how/where vote takes place :d
TT:Newbie question
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:look at the top right corner of chat - there is a icon - click on that - there is a dropdown menu to set colour option
Sandra Hoferichter:we should allocate colours to the regions:)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
Cintra Sooknanan 2::O ... thanks!
Sergio Salinas Porto:on the topic of "online interpretations" had requested that the minimum tax for interpretation beyond are two (2) what happened to that?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I just got dropped from the call.
Heidi Ullrich:We'll have Adigo to call you back
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Thanks.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Sorry you got dropped and interesting comment by Sergio
Cintra Sooknanan 2:Sergio you mean if there are at least 2 members not the original 3 she stated...
Sergio Salinas Porto:agree tijiani...
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:What's that sound?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I see
TT:its probably someone got disconnected
Heidi Ullrich:Jose had to leave.
CLO:perhaps Kristina has had to rethink her position based on looking at the cost ramifications etc.,
TT:rinlaia are you back onthe call?
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:no
CLO:we need ti get Rinalia back on
Cintra Sooknanan 2:Also there seems to be some inconsistency on what members recall Christina stated as the minimum
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:back in now.
TT:OK.
TT:re: vote respond via email/confluence has a voting space? its not clear.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Great, re: LACRALO advice on ISOC-CR
TT:Maybe just for me though...:-d
TT:Ok. All via email ? Not via some gizmo online :D
TT:Ok. Thks Olivier I get it.
TT:I keep looking for a link to some online voting gizmo...:d
Oksana Prykhodko:Olivier, could you please send link to these reports?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Link to reports :https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/gEDwBQ
Oksana Prykhodko:Thank you, Dev
Evan Leibovitch: I believe Carlton said he would be in transit today
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/gEDwBQ
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:This is the first time I am seeing the link to the reports
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am not on the call got dropped off
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:can somebody re-dial and add me please
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:I did update the PAD before the call :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtasV2tOgnqxdEtybGhDb3NweG5mZXdZXzlSMzlTdVE
Evan Leibovitch:The FoI appears to be relevant to the ccTLD delegation issues that provoked a -- lively -- debate within NARALO about the transfer of ".pr"
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am only seeing the chat transcript
Natalia Enciso:one silly question about deadlines fror public comments: are they added to google calendar?
Evan Leibovitch:Was someone just popping corn?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am requesting the kind assistance of staff to please get me into the call, please
Heidi Ullrich:Workspace to IRD PC:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=102638717
Heidi Ullrich:Framework of Interpretation WG:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=102638717
CLO:Agreed Alan
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Mr Chair, I can't follow the meeting as am not on the call
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::(
CLO:Do you need a dial out Sala
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes please
CLO:I'll ask STAFF to confoirm they are doing this then
CLO:they being ADOGO
CLO:ADIGO
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:They have just reconnected me
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Cheryl
CLO:phew
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:phew is right
Gisella Gruber-White:Ganesh may have left and following on AC room
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:good to follow again
TT:Don't think Ganesh is on the call anymore
Gisella Gruber-White:He is not on the call
Evan Leibovitch:or ac
Gisella Gruber-White:He has left the call
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:What's Group 2?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I see
Sebastien:Can you wait for Avri to join?
Heidi Ullrich:Link to the At-Large Workspace on GeoRegions:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/At-Large+Geographic+Regions+Review+Workspace
Sebastien:You can't disband the JAS they need to do the final final repport after the comment period
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:@Natalia - re: deadlines for public comments being added to calendar - no, however I believe the Public Comments Wiki Prototype undergoing testing does have some form of calendar showing policy start dates and close dates
Gisella Gruber-White:Ganesh had to leave the call
Sebastien:And then GNSO and ALAC will have to decide any follow up
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok; thx
Natalia Enciso:thanks @Dev! that would be of great help
Alan Greenberg:OLD - breaking up badly. Sounds like packet loss.
Alan Greenberg:OCL!!
CLO:yup almost good old ship to shore
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am using Skype & evening traffic here
Heidi Ullrich:Please refresh the agenda page. The At-Large Workspaces, where they exist, have been posted on the agenda.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the only thing I can think of is to switch to a mobile phone dial-out if it gets too bad
CLO:improved now OCL
Alan Greenberg:now ok
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes we can hear you
Natalia Enciso:I will need a dial out again, please!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:very clear, Olivier.
Heidi Ullrich:We will have Adigo dial out to you,Natalia
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Indeed, re: need for LACRALO comments on Draft GeoRegions Final Report
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Board Technical Relations Working Group (BTRWG) – Final Report for Public Comment :http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-16nov11-en.htm
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
Natalia Enciso:thanks @Heidi
Alan Greenberg:ETSI
Natalia Enciso:back again, thanks
Alan Greenberg:Seb. Breaking up a lot
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Muffled sound
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Perhaps if people can speak into the mouthpiece so we can hear, the joys of interconnection
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The rest of the Group can comment on it
Edmon::-D
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Interesting debate on the thick Whois vrs thin Whois
CLO:I thought we had unanimity as well Oh well
CLO:perhaps we ( the community needs to brief / instruct our rep to the Whois RT then
CLO:as to the consensus view
CLO:Why would we do part c when we did NIT do A or B
TT:Technical OLC
TT:I can take a look at it though and give feed back?
CLO:no we do not have a rep there
CLO:unsure if we need to
TT::-) Very hardly ever scared but thanks.
TT:...
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:You should send a link to the archived readings etc, good on you Titi
CLO:not a matter of being scared\it is a matter of effective input and picking where peoples energies are most effective / required
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:This is where the skills matrix will be useful so members can draw from counsel on various aspects
TT:@CLO agree why the comment was made by myself...
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I had to file a COI as part of NomComm process. Does that count?
Oksana Prykhodko:Agree with TT
CLO:heree is the GNSO new templates my examplehttps://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/gnsosoi/Cheryl+Langdon-Orr+SOI
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I mean answer a COI question.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Are we still on 7
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:templates on Close of interest
CLO:heree is my home page inwiki to act as continuous disclosre about to be updated BTW https://community.icann.org/display/~cheryl.langdon-orr/Home
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes
Matt Ashtiani:ICANN Board of Directors -http://www.icann.org/en/general/board.html
CLO:STATEMENT of Interest is better term
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:or Declaration of Interest
CLO:my home page ensures I have no CoI issues ever arise
CLO:as it act as Continuous Disclosure
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes there is a distinction
Evan Leibovitch:Yes: generally if someone has a conflict of interest one would normally be excused from a discussion. Within ICANN people with financial interest are werlcome to participate and even dominate issues ... so long as they declare the interest ahead of time.
CLO:yes you disclose the CoI and wthdraw
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:agree with CLO
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:interest is not only financial
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:to arise in conflict
CLO:indeed not onky financial
CLO:It also needs to be enshrined in the ROPs
CLO: YES
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:yes of course, corporate governance
CLO:and require our WG participants to also do SoI
Eduardo Diaz:What is ROP?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:it should be Top Down
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Rules of Procedure
Eduardo Diaz:Thnaks
Heidi Ullrich:I count 10 ALAC members in the AC
CLO:Rules Of Procedure]
CLO:how we run
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:They are different
TT:Technically SOI andCOI are quite different...except we are chooing in ourRoP to make dem same?
Yaovi Atohoun 2:I am on the call now
CLO:@edwardo (and any other newbies ) here are the current RoPshttps://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure
CLO:now under radical review
Natalia Enciso:thanks @CLO
CLO:Rev 11 is the current
Eduardo Diaz:@CLO - Thanks.
CLO:I nite 11 is onky listed in EN :-( https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/99699087/AL-2007-1-1-Rev11+ALAC+Internal+Rules+of+Procedure+-EN.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1287527930000
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Alan, can you check your private chat pls?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Eunice
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:apologies
CLO:we will ensure the new review version is in all the UN langiages _ selected others ICANN uses and ALAC wants
TT:@Cheryl Thanks for the RoP link
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I know this is limited to selection of co-chairs but would like the WG to consider the proposal that was submitted
Oksana Prykhodko:I dropped out!
TT:Thundersstorm at my end so have hd to mute microphone just inc ase there is intereference
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:i had commented on the methodology
Natalia Enciso:cannot listen clearly
TT:cannot hear Sandra clearly - echos
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:am liaising with APRALO to get feedback, have already consulted some of the ALS within APRALO
Eduardo Diaz:Is there a wiki page for this ad hoc WG?
TT::-( Did not understand /hear what sandra saidChair.
Natalia Enciso:me neither @TT
TT:a summary maybe?
Cintra Sooknanan 2:I am disconnected please redial
Eduardo Diaz:Please include me in this WG.
Heidi Ullrich:Link to ICANN Academy:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/Improve/At-Large+ICANN+Academy+Ad-Hoc+Working+Group
Sebastien:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/Improve/ICANN+Academy+Proposal
CLO:It is good practice to have co chairs in many WG's of the ALAC that have global ramifications to Regions and ALSes though ( or it has been to date) as it allows for multi time zone and language outreach etc., worth thinking about we DID need this approach for the Summit WG's as they were global \
Oksana Prykhodko:i am back on call, but I do not hear anything
Heidi Ullrich:Let me look into the issue, Oksana
Oksana Prykhodko:Thanks, a little better
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Sandra, i would like to join your Working Group
Yaovi Atohoun 2:I am interested to join this Academy WG
Natalia Enciso:Is the WG for the ICann Academy? If so, I would like to join too.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Natalia would you like to join too?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:awesome
Natalia Enciso:yes @Sala
Oksana Prykhodko:me too
Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Workspace on JIG:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/At-Large+Workspace+for+Joint+ccNSO+and+GNSO+Working+Group+on+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs+-+November+2011
Edmon:correct :-) thx cheryl
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:May I ask Staff to please take note of all people who have expressed interest in joining the ICANN Academy ad-hoc WG? Thanks
Heidi Ullrich:Yes, Olivier.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I strongly agree with Cheryl
Tijani:Dropped
Cintra Sooknanan 2:same with me
Heidi Ullrich:Tijania, we'll cal you back
Tijani:Can you plz make Adigo call me again
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:APRALO is severely affected by the exclusion from the board to consider IDN single characters in the first round
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:I would be interested in joining the ICANN Academy ad-hoc WG
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:ICANN bylars Article II(4)
TT::-( Weather severly affecting my ability to hear anyone but OCL!!!
Tijani:It's OK, I'm on the bridge again
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks to all who have expressed an interest in joining the ICANN Academy WG.
Eduardo Diaz:I will have to drop off the call in a few minutes. Next time I will schedule more time for these.
Natalia Enciso:@Heidi, got dropped again. Can Adigo call back?
Sandra Hoferichter:Lost connection:)
Sandra Hoferichter::(
Cintra Sooknanan 2:lol
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Can someone please call Sandra and Natalia?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:They need a dial out, please
Heidi Ullrich:We will do so
Alan Greenberg:We jumped over the Liaison reports with no opportunity to comment. Can I get in sometime before the meeting ends or the majority of people leave?
Alan Greenberg:Subject is RAA and we really needt omobilize quickly.
Sandra Hoferichter:back again thanks
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::) Thanks Staff
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hope Natalia will be back soon
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Will do Mr Chair
Natalia Enciso:thanks @Sala, still waiting for the call
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Ditto @Sala
Heidi Ullrich:Adigo is dialing everyone who has dropped.
Sebastien:I am disconnected
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Heidi
Natalia Enciso:back again, thanks @Heidi
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I don't need a dial out as I am on the call, thanks though
CLO:Ive been discinnected AGAIN
Evan Leibovitch:+1 Alan. We need to ensure that issues such as the "aspirational" assertion of registrant and end user rights need to be within the scope of the issue report
Sergio Salinas Porto: I am disconnected apologies...bye!
Heidi Ullrich:FR interpretor has to stop. We are over two hours.
Heidi Ullrich:Calling out to you, CLO
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Sorry which Agenda iten is this?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:the one that Alan was on?
Natalia Enciso:I am lost too, due to call lost
Alan Greenberg:Sala, that was a comment on my GNSO Liaison report - item 5
CLO:As a member of BOTH the RAA WG's A&B happy to be part of this review
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Olivier is saying that it will be another 10 min
Alan Greenberg:that we skipped over earlier.
Natalia Enciso:thanks @Alan
Oksana Prykhodko:I am extremely interested in ICANN Academy, but I missed the whole discussion( Can I find it later?
CLO:still waiting for dial out perhaps i need to give them my number ;'-)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair also mentioned that translators have gone and invited people to switch to the English channel
Heidi Ullrich:We are dialing CLO back
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is commenting on "dropped off"
Alan Greenberg:@oksana, MP3 will be posted soon.
Sandra Hoferichter:@Oksana: we will keep you update
CLO:must take a while to dial ]
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is now referring to Budget Sub committee
CLO:back
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is mentioning the resource constraints prevent us from doing things
Heidi Ullrich:Cheryl is back
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:and the relevance of budget Sub committee formerly called the At Large Finance Sub Committee
Oksana Prykhodko:Great, thank you very much!
TT:@ Chair able to committ some timeto the WC
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is also inviting regional participation
CLO:I will ask if APRALO would like to have me continue in the committee as the RALO rep for our Region which gives some consotancy having been on it since 2006
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am only typing this until everyone is on call
Alan Greenberg:@Evan, as noted in my report, staff interpretation is that issues are limited to those raised in the report. That is why it is so important to review the report. HOWEVER, if issues we consider dear were not raised in that matter, it does warrant a direct comment to the Board...
CLO:we need a REGIONAL RALO rep 1 from each region OR are you changing it to an open WG *shudder*
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:is this Tijani?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:i see so everyone is back on?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Tijani Ben Jemaa
Heidi Ullrich:Oksana, Adigo is getting a ring, no answer for you.
Oksana Prykhodko:I am off, but I don't think it needs to call me again)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Ok I will continue typing
Cintra Sooknanan 2:in Lacralo it is currently jointly held between Sylvia and me
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Tijani also encouraged people to participate
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Finance+and+Budget
TT:is Dave stil on the committee?
Oksana Prykhodko:Sala< thank you very much! I will wait fot record!
TT:Chair?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Cheryl raised some reservations
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:also from LACRALO, Jessel
Cintra Sooknanan 2:so there is a difference between membership and finance liaison to the ralos
Natalia Enciso:and #11? did you discissed it already?
CLO:All our WG's and SC ( to date) are OPEN and public Membership of the B7F SC needs to be IMO tigh, focussed and geographib=cally (as well as ALAC / At-Large balanced one
TT:@ Adigo/ICANN staff :) we need emoticons on this platform :)
Alan Greenberg:That list is clearlty out of date (for NA in any case)
CLO:Can we also look to on this what we have said ti dat
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is referring to what we think the Nominating Committee should consider in criteria for selection
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Oksana are you on call yet?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:@Natalia re: agenda #11, At-Large Improvements, initially skipped as Cheryl was being dialled out
Heidi Ullrich:Yaovi is unmuted
CLO:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/alacdocs/Resolution+on+Position+Description+for+ALAC+Members+and+ALAC+Liasons
Natalia Enciso:thanks @Dev.
CLO:this is what we have On the record on the characteristics
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:VOIP issues
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Cheryl
Yaovi Atohoun 2:thank you.
Tijani:I will leave in 20 min
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I agree
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2::-)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Can I receive a dial out please?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I know we are about to end
CLO:At the hours were up we can but hope so Sala ;-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:At-Large 360 Group Proposal Workspace :https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/UtruBQ(click on the attachment)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
Evan Leibovitch:I am lukewarm to the 360 idea. At best it will slow the CEO selection process and at worst it will politicisze it.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:thanks for the dial out
Heidi Ullrich:noted re 360 page
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:lol @ comments on "international"
Heidi Ullrich:link to Beginners Guide on Participating in At-Large:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/alacexcomm/Beginner%27s+Guide+to+Participating+in+At-Large
Heidi Ullrich:Expected to be completed by Costa Rica
Natalia Enciso:call dropped again :(
Heidi Ullrich:calling you back
Natalia Enciso:thanks!!!!!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The beginner's guide is great and we can send our comments offline
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The work is appreciated
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:+1 Sala
Evan Leibovitch:I have a hard stop at 40 past the hour.
Natalia Enciso:+1
Natalia Enciso:back agian! thanks
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:It was great to see the capacity building in the AFRALO region and to see alot of youth participation
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Wonder how many remote participants were outside of those that were streaming in from Senegal
TT:Thks TJ
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Tijani
Yaovi Atohoun 2:Thank you Alan
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Well done indeed AFRALO
Evan Leibovitch:The great work done by AFRALO offers some good lessons that I hope are learned by the people planning the Academy
Yaovi Atohoun 2:Thank you all for you support in Dakar
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
TT:Thanks for the brevity :-)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No comments
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I wish you well in your preparations
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I have a question with regards to the meeting time
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:does it rotate ?
CLO:I trust the ALAC remembers AP reps run at UTC + 8 and 12 => 13 hrs *summer time*
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am on UTC+12
CLO:that is a big spread of time in the early morning night time hours
CLO:yup
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:yes please doodle is good
Evan Leibovitch:I need to go. I have no problem with the idea of staggering times so that a different set of people are inconvenienced by any specific time.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:from the Pacific, it is terrible so i support rotation
CLO:rinalia and Edmon are more like +8 hrs
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so we all get a fair go
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:haha
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:ignore it
Alan Greenberg:The earth is round??? When did that happen?
CLO:LOL
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:x: +7 < x < +13, x= time in UTC
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I thought Friedman said it was flat?
Alan Greenberg:If re continue to address AIs at each meeting, the two meetings per month would still be as long!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:rofl
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:it would problably be two 2hour meetings
TT:I have to leave the call in 30 seconds :-)
Yaovi Atohoun 2:two meetings per month could be a problem
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+1 @Alan
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Maybe someone can write a paper
TT:Offices to be locked nad must not remain in overnight :D
CLO:yup
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:online progress reports
Natalia Enciso:agree with @Alan
CLO:we have had people removed from buildings with escorts so do go as needed
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:and split the AIs among two ALAC meetings per month
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:and mandatory for ALAC members to read the reports
TT:Regards to all!
TT:Cheers
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Titi!
CLO:take care TT
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:brainstorming the meeting time
Evan Leibovitch:sorry. I really gotta go. another meeting
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:didn't cover the At-large Improvements
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Taskforce
Evan Leibovitch:they're all asleep
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Mr Chair, I recognise that it is not easy but thank you for chairing the meeting
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Dev raised something
CLO:no it can carry over till later
Heidi Ullrich:Just saw your note, Cheryl.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No comments from me
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:tada!
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, everyone!
CLO: bye all
Natalia Enciso:thansk, bye to everyone!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you Mr Chair and colleagues
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:thanks olivier and everyone.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Have a great day everyone
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:gnite
Sandra Hoferichter:By By!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you Staff
Yaovi Atohoun 2:merci a tous
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Bye!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:bye bye
Cintra Sooknanan 2:bye bye
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Thanks everyone, bye all
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:breakfast now
Cintra Sooknanan 2:great marathon session!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:marathon is right
CLO:LOL now we get to start our day here in AP
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:lol yes CLO
CLO:though Rinalia miught get a little rest
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Rinalia have a good rest
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I will catch up on my sleep later
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks to all for having remained until the end.
CLO:bye all
Cintra Sooknanan 2:Welcome Olivier... See you tomorrow!!!!!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you :)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and sorry if I take sometimes a little too long to explain things or let the debate continue & not cut it short. Debate and discussion is good.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:omg I just found the icon for speaking slowly or fast
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:will use it next time
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:no you did a great job and it is not easy
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:have a good rest whatever time it is there
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:gosh now i can't find the log off button
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:you can never leave Sala
Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:lol