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AC Chat: 2017-04-25 ALAC Monthly Teleconference
AC Chat: 2017-04-25 ALAC Monthly Teleconference
Evin Erdogdu: (4/25/2017 06:14) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Teleconference on Tuesday, 25 April 2017 from 04:00 UTC to 06:00 UTC.
Evin Erdogdu: (06:14) Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/C0jvBQ
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (06:35) Hi Evin!. Got no mic for this call, sorry!
Evin Erdogdu: (06:37) Hello Javier! Thank you for letting me know.
Alan Greenberg: (06:47) Not on bridge yet.
Evin Erdogdu: (06:48) Ok, thank you for letting us know. See you there soon!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:53) Simple answer for them DON'T
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:54) :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:54) Really jaded today Sorry team
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:54) Did I mention Jaded!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:55) add crancy
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:55) the audio buzz will be from the other AC Room audio running atm
Evin Erdogdu: (06:55) Hope your other call is going well!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (06:55) Jeez!
Evin Erdogdu: (06:58) Unsynced!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:58) thanks!
Heidi Ullrich: (07:00) Hello, All!
Maureen Hilyard: (07:02) Yes on the AC.. just waiting for a dialout
Alberto Soto: (07:02) Helo everyone,hola a todos!
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (07:02) Hello all, ; Hola!
Leon Sanchez: (07:03) Hello everyone
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (07:03) I'm mic-less, just on chat...
Heidi Ullrich: (07:05) Action Items from previous ALAC call: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_Action-2BItems-253A-2B2017-2D03-2D28-2BALAC-2BMonthly-2BTeleconference&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=Sddei4ZUuLo7t_E1Sg1DlM8HPTcrfXYLsYDIqwwftZ4&e= - friendly reminder to Alan, Sebastien to review.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:06) You all have my undevided attention until top of the hour when my next overlapping call starts
Ariel Liang: (07:07) https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/_WMeBg
Maureen Hilyard: (07:09) Im OK with the changes
Gisella Gruber: (07:09) Holly sent her apology for this call
Maureen Hilyard: (07:09) I don't disagree
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (07:14) please say your names when you speak
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:14) it will be an interestingtranscript
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:15) Good Leon Thx
Ariel Liang: (07:22) .NET public comment: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/k2QeBg
Maureen Hilyard: (07:22) Ill work with someone on it
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:22) Shall I giove it a shot?
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:23) haha
Maureen Hilyard: (07:23) Thank you Bastiaan
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:23) I will liase with Maureen
Andrei Kolesnikov: (07:23) i'm back penholder but may go through the texts
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:23) no sweat looking forward to it
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:23) I hope
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:23) ;-)
Andrei Kolesnikov: (07:23) i'm bad penholder typo...
Maureen Hilyard: (07:23) Glad to have you on board :)
Bastiaan Goslings: (07:24) ('m probably sleep adobe connecting, will wake up later and discover...)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:24) Nothing to add from the BNSO Meeting late last week wseveral Agendda Items are held over for further discussion more to file when they are decided upon
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:25) BNSO should read GNSO
Maureen Hilyard: (07:25) Nothing to add to the written report - ccNSO
Julie Hammer: (07:25) All in my report.
Evin Erdogdu: (07:26) Discussion document: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/99567627/ALAC-2520Credibility.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1493074298000-26api-3Dv2
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:26) read the 'Report" we have "none" apparently (joke- kinda)
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (07:28) please unsync the document on the screen
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (07:28) The SSAC mission as listed in the bylaws is very different.
Evin Erdogdu: (07:29) Unsynced
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (07:29) @Evin: thanks
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (07:29) The SSAC could have 1 expert and still be legitimate
Maureen Hilyard: (07:33) I think that it is appropriate that we send our request for input into statements to At-Large, even if they don't participate we can still say that we invited them to comment. However, maybe we should ask ALSes in particular to respond (as Alberto has just mentioned)
Maureen Hilyard: (07:34) ALSes and Individual members..
Maureen Hilyard: (07:42) The ways in which ITEMS has ignored the views expressed in our report due to the high level of interest and participation in the At-Large Review is a really relevant example of how others just ignore what is said by At-Large in terms of numbers of people involved in the process - unless we write every name odwn they would ever know
Heidi Ullrich: (07:43) The metrics might be more useful if there was some empirical and theoretical research included in the document. What do ALSes believe on how their members wish to have their interests represented? What do studies on this toipc say?
Rinalia Abdul Rahim: (07:43) There is a capacity building project targeted at GAC underserved regions in the Pacific coming up, which starts with an assessment / survey on what the GAC members would like to know more about prior to the capacity building. would that model be useful for getting the ALSes more engaged and involved in making comments on policy and other things?
Heidi Ullrich: (07:45) At-Large Review timeline: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_ALRW_Activities-252C-2BMilestones-2Band-2BStatistics&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=Yfgwb95JlWPADVGHQdRJMg4HDGN62U2Qwl-o40MVCcU&e=
Maureen Hilyard: (07:45) @Heidi who will be expected to carry out the research?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (07:45) The community onboarding approach https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BCommunity-2BOnboarding&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=riPdH3sv-sKjSpZZnfHmiNBdjx_EspkKCnf7Duz9UN4&e= is trying to develop approaches for different audiences (general public, members of ALSes, etc) on how At-Large can be onboarded to become involved in At-Large https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BCommunity-2BOnboarding&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=riPdH3sv-sKjSpZZnfHmiNBdjx_EspkKCnf7Duz9UN4&e= ; as an example, here's a informational slidedeck on the policy issues for At-Large https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1XqbvBYdWWC9ZE3MKu-5FtmVoQ7yOu9o2MrAL-2DExyAZLRE_pub-3Fstart-3Dfalse-26loop-3Dfalse-26delayms-3D3000&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=O35UxdedoeYRN87tjmZpNeLqBTELicIK0CrXARD0uq0&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:47) Thx Heidi
Evin Erdogdu: (07:47) Will do!
Evin Erdogdu: (07:48) Summary: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/99567627/GNSO-2DReview-5FSummary.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1493086851784-26api-3Dv2
Evin Erdogdu: (07:48) Will load now
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (07:50) GNSO template is a good one.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (07:51) it the highest weight in the OEC/Board evaluation process is from the review working party.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:51) the GNSO RT colour code is exactly what we need to do in next steps IMO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:52) BAD echo
Leon Sanchez: (07:52) So we have work to do so we can convey our message to the Board
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:55) Indeed Alan
Evin Erdogdu: (07:56) ALAC ROP: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/99699087/ALAC-252BRoP-2D06April2013.pdf
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:56) OK going to split barin again as I join my ther ICANN WG call now
Evin Erdogdu: (07:56) Loading document now...
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (07:56) I just heard a rooster!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:56) barin is Brain *sigh*
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:56) Yes that is at Maureens
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:56) the roosters ;-)
Maureen Hilyard: (07:56) That was not my rooster.. I am in New Zealand :)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:56) I contribute the Galah sounds
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (07:57) Ah yeah I remember!
Maureen Hilyard: (07:57) But now I know what you have to put up with....
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (07:57) must be somewhere where it is morning
Alberto Soto: (07:58) Here in Argentina it is very early for the roosters
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (07:58) Roosters are sleeping right now in Puerto Rico... So are normal humans.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:59) normal humans are nt ICANN Volunteers
Andrei Kolesnikov: (07:59) my two roosters go crazy but im muted ) i think its feature of ADOBE
Evin Erdogdu: (07:59) Hello all - kind reminder to please speak slowly for the interpreters.
Leon Sanchez: (08:00) I don't think we need another provision
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:01) I think it is assumd but erhaos we need to be explicit
Leon Sanchez: (08:01) the current provision is applied by exception, hence making it unnecessary, in my view, to have one that addresses the general issues
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:01) Ahh I'll agree with the lawyer then
Leon Sanchez: (08:02) Thanks Cheryl :-)
Leon Sanchez: (08:03) yes Olivier
Alberto Soto: (08:03) yes Olivier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:03) The GNSO is also discussing this matter and there is a discussion to call for this to be OTHER than a CCWG but still another named activity that is accross the ICANN Communities (inclusive of etc.,)
Heidi Ullrich: (08:03) We are loading the document
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:04) GNSO should read GNSO Council, this was also carried over from our meeting last week
Leon Sanchez: (08:06) This isn't the Charter you're looking for (waves hand in Jedi style)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:06) :-)
Maureen Hilyard: (08:09) periodicity?
Maureen Hilyard: (08:10) on page 3
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:15) Our Accessability Cross Community Cmmittee still has plenty of clout and attention IMO (biased I admit)
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (08:16) board IG discussion in Geneva will be open (in May)
Maureen Hilyard: (08:17) yes
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:17) Then we come up against the Core activities of ICANN point of view
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:17) :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:18) Yup
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (08:21) since sliced bread
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:21) :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:22) The work *is essential* but the type of vehicle we house it in a tad less so IMO but I will reflect the view of the ALAC (when you decide on ne) of course
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:24) Great point @Olivier.
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:25) One should take a weekly look at the bylaws, to remember these things!
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (08:25) yes plz Olivier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:27) Afternoon G ;-)
Heidi Ullrich: (08:27) 61 days until ICANN 59!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:27) *shudder*
Heidi Ullrich: (08:28) There will be nearly 50 AFRALO ALS representatives participating in ICANN 59 in the AFRALO General Assembly.
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:29) The ICANN61 Iphone App has been available in the App Store for a while for download...!
Leon Sanchez: (08:31) party!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (08:31) must be an alarm of some sort
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:34) Yes I remeber that discussion, @Olivier. Its a good idea.
Maureen Hilyard: (08:34) Lucky to have it at 7am..
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:34) So situation normal then Alan
Heidi Ullrich: (08:34) FY18 At-Large Implementation Worksapce: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BFY18-2BSpecial-2BRequest-2BImplementation-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=dNR014VkFgmoKLzL5Z7cGJqNKc_dN9TVcjxxaicx0h4&e=
Evin Erdogdu: (08:35) Thanks Heidi!
Gisella Gruber: (08:35) Please send us your comments as per Alan's request!
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:37) What happened to the roosters?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:37) soup?
Alberto Soto: (08:37) @Javilish channel,,er in Eng
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:38) Language trivia: the rooster cockadoodledoo onomatopeia in Puerto Rican Spanish is "¡Kikirikí!
Alberto Soto: (08:38) sorry@javier, in English channel
Evin Erdogdu: (08:38) Will do!
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (08:52) thanx
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (08:53) why we change the name of CROPP to CROP ?
Heidi Ullrich: (08:53) @Abdeldjalil, it is no longer a pilot
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (08:53) because it is no longer a Pilot
Ariel Liang: (08:56) FY18 Operating Plan and Budget public comment: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/EWQeBg
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (08:56) thanks
Heidi Ullrich: (08:57) FY18 budget ALAC statement workspace: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_alacpolicydev_At-2DLarge-2BWorkspace-253A-2BICANN-2527s-2BDraft-2BFY18-2BOperating-2BPlan-2Band-2BBudget-252C-2Band-2BFive-2DYear-2BOperating-2BPlan-2BUpdate&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=UGZX6OmbYnnM6r95i0fk-83EZEfuaSIrym6gOsUz-Fg&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (09:03) Been a long Day let alone a long meeting Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (09:04) 6.5 hrs with 2 meetings overlapping this one, included for me (oh yes on a National Public Holiday
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (09:04) This mighr be the At-Large website issue https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_q-2Da-2Dwhat-2Dthe-2Dretirement-2Dof-2Dgoogle-2Dsite-2Dsearch-2Dmeans-2Dfor-2Dicann&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=ko0DUVlALOxP4DNlb1Gs4LaCdoREKqBw5bS0KFZBMSg&s=yDhSRPjMa1GcW6ShnsajNxCUkllLkp6UuZZBzCv9H54&e=
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:04) sorry, will try to reconnect
Bastiaan Goslings: (09:05) Nice one, Evin
Evin Erdogdu: (09:06) :)
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:06) sorry, something wrong with my mics
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:07) Just wanted to share with ALAC that we are running a new Regional Newcomers Fellowship Pilot Program
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:07) and we have selected 15 Newcomers from Africa
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:07) who will be in Johannesburg
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (09:07) Ahh excellent :-)
Heidi Ullrich: (09:07) Great!!
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:07) the selection is done in partnership with GSE team from Africa
Heidi Ullrich: (09:07) Do you have the list, Siranush?
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:08) yes, we will announce today at our call with GSE team and will inform more
Heidi Ullrich: (09:08) Thanks, All!
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:08) yes, we do
Leon Sanchez: (09:08) thanks everyone
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:08) Heidi, I will send it to you
Alberto Soto: (09:08) Thanks, bye!!!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim 2: (09:08) bye all
Javier Rúa-Jovet: (09:08) bye
Siranush Vardanyan: (09:08) bye all
Harold Arcos: (09:08) Thanks everyone,
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (09:08) Bye all - Lest We Forget
Bastiaan Goslings: (09:08) thanks, ciao
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (09:08) bye
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (09:08) Thanks all
Ariel Liang: (09:08) thanks all
Harold Arcos: (09:08) Thanks very much to interpreters
Evin Erdogdu: (09:08) Thank you all!