Zoom chat: 2023-01-05 At-Large Capacity Building WG Team Call

00:19:03    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Happy New Year and Good evening from Tamale, Ghana... Great to be here...
00:19:32    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Action Items: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99671618/Action+Items+At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Team+Call
00:20:24    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I had already done my list review for last call ;-)
00:20:51    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: I will mark that AI as complete.
00:22:01    Hadia El Miniawi: Happy Holidays
00:30:24    Hadia El Miniawi: I am not sure that both topics are necessary associated
00:30:29    Sarah Kiden: Agree, Cheryl
00:30:55    Jonathan Zuck: Yes. We should get on that analysis soon, though
00:31:07    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: yes we can just give a nod to the other work in any cover note
00:31:25    Sarah Kiden: That’s noted. We can send this, then start working on the review
00:31:46    Hadia El Miniawi: +1 Jonathan agree
00:31:47    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Endorsement by the ALAC might be useful before sending to the ICANN Learn team.
00:31:48    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Exactly @JZ  and it is a good point that Sarah makes
00:32:07    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: Apologies for lateness
00:32:09    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Fair point @Heidi
00:33:06    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: to ALAC for acceptance/note  before going to iCANN Learn
00:33:32    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Heidi can control the right flow I thonk
00:33:36    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: think
00:33:56    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Yes I have noted the AI
00:34:40    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wE196fuxkIXc3hBnM0QK26X6QRDsY8e-mdMK7UqZ2IY/edit#gid=0
00:35:22    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: scroll down to the CB Webinars  please Michelle
00:36:33    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: @Michelle, can you kindly me grant access to the sheet?
00:37:01    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: +1 Jonathan, we need to note the criteria and also the amount of resources that are required to develop an ICANN Learn course.
00:37:26    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: more than 1 way to skin this cat though Heidi
00:37:28    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Welcome, Maureen.
00:37:36    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: as I will note in a moment
00:37:46    Hadia El Miniawi: Jonathan O lost you
00:37:48    Hadia El Miniawi: I
00:37:52    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I have lost audio
00:37:55    Hadia El Miniawi: Ok you are back
00:37:59    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: yes back
00:45:55    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: BTW  some of the Quizzes in the Webinars are total RUBISH  in my Vefy Boased view ;-)
00:45:59    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Biased
00:47:25    Mohammed Awal Alhassan: I'm requesting access to the document, please
00:48:28    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Just as we should curate a learning experience with existing ICANN Learn Courses  we could also Curate Recommended  Review  for At-Large webinar selection(s)
00:48:50    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Course creating IS a resource heavy requirement
00:50:25    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: We might need to first determine the skill gaps and then try to fill them
00:50:28    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Both have their roles... and I think they  are complementary...
00:50:37    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: I think we could deconstruct some of our webinars and reconstruct the information in another format, like a short course or other type of activity that reinforces the key ideas.
00:50:50    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @Lavish
00:51:24    Jonathan Zuck: The answer might be to create a new webinar
00:52:15    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: But webinars are just one way directional, it doesn't get the learner actually doing something to show they are understanding what you are wanting them to know.
00:52:43    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: which is what capacity building is supposed to be about.
00:52:49    Jonathan Zuck: Many of our webinars are pretty ad hoc. We might want to create a real.webinar.
00:53:59    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Hell YES  @JZ!!!
00:54:10    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Agree, JZ.
00:54:22    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Secind editions of existing materials
00:54:23    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: 
00:54:37    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: And I would also like to have a new and improved approach to organizing all the past webinars, CB activities
00:54:37    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: or 3rd Ed  etc.,  all damn good from my POV
00:54:57    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: To make them more accessible to those who might benefit
00:55:16    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Perhaps organize them by skills/topics
00:55:21    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: What JZ is talking about is exactly how these learning platforms do, eg. Coursera and the likes... Scripts with someone rehearsing it
00:55:23    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Agreed Heidi, nothing gets pensioned off /deleted/lost  but the use and utility is refined and curated!
00:55:26    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Rather than the current chronological order...
00:55:40    Sarah Kiden: :-)
00:55:47    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: JZ, you are now a member of the CBWG!
00:56:06    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: yup
00:56:42    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: I think the next topic might be a continuation of the way we present our content material
00:56:44    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Do you want me to start a second sheet with possibe curation outlines
00:56:52    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: yes
00:57:46    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: I like this
00:58:05    Sarah Kiden: Kindly grant view rights to the document
00:58:11    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: OK  can you make that an AI  for Maureen, Sarah, Hadia and I to take a 1st run at please Heidi
00:58:22    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Will do
00:58:29    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: scroll down please Michelle
00:59:24    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thx
01:06:55    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I'll drop the link I the ABR  to the 3rd party entity I am refering to
01:07:06    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Heidi/Maureen  it is one we reviewed
01:07:11    Hadia El Miniawi: Thanks Cheryl
01:07:18    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: AI: Jonathan Zuck and Cheryl Langdon-Orr to add the external source of templates to the End User Playbook ABR proposal.
01:07:56    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ABR's have time binding and reporting needs  to comply with and yes it can be listed as Pilot  maybe APRALO can pilot it ;-)
01:08:03    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ausio
01:08:10    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: audio JZ
01:12:29    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Maureen, are you now speaking about your ABR proposal?
01:12:38    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: We have that ready to display
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01:13:32    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: com
01:13:48    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: sorry https://www.smartinsights.com/
01:15:08    Jonathan Zuck: read it!
01:16:07    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: I am seeing all the linkages! How do we incorporate these three concepts into a/some ABR proposals?
01:18:28    Jonathan Zuck: Definitely a relationship
01:19:30    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Maureen and Cheryl, we are having an FBSC call next week. It might be useful for you to join to discuss these proposals
01:19:30    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KqiGrduyZ2VVziu4lEUhRAl9z_PZ0L7p/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113012594221325855234&rtpof=true&sd=true
01:19:52    Hadia El Miniawi: Thank you for the link
01:21:56    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: Perfect!
01:23:18    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Lots covered though  Hadia so time well spent IMO
01:23:49    Sarah Kiden: Yes indeed
01:24:16    Hadia El Miniawi: @Cheryl indeed - time very well spent
01:25:23    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we now need to engage those same people with these sort s of actions  agreed @JZ
01:26:40    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ALAC  ABR piloted in RALO(s)  noting APRALO as already willing to be engaged
01:27:38    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: But I believe this WG has supported both ABRss presented
01:28:28    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: @Maureen, you might wish to note the FY24 APRALO GA
01:28:36    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: As a reason why the pilots are there
01:28:37    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: never do any 1 thing for only 1 reason :-)
01:29:01    Maureen Hilyard ALAC: +1 Cheryl
01:29:06    Sarah Kiden: Support from me too. The proposals are great. I hope they are approved
01:29:14    Jonathan Zuck: Maureen is is more Interventionist so politics more likely
01:29:20    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: We can but try @Sarah
01:29:32    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: They are both... great documents...
01:29:49    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: APRALO is planning on several UA Day activities
01:30:04    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: So perhaps best practice here which can be discussed on a call with Satish, etc
01:30:18    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @JZ
01:30:44    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: makes sense  @Hadia
01:31:17    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: totally agree @JZ!!!
01:31:26    Hadia El Miniawi: Makes sense to me
01:31:37    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we need more standardisation of activities. tools and materials
01:31:43    Lilian Deluque: lacralo too is planning UA day activities
01:32:36    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: +1 Cheryl - need to be in sync
01:32:48    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: UASG will also be preparing materials I assume
01:33:33    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Yes, and Satish is the ALAC liaison to the UASG
01:33:38    Jonathan Zuck: And the experiment does not need to be ALL that we do!
01:33:46    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we can spend time on that next week  I agree @Hadia
01:33:56    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Or perhaps design the webinars first before holding the next
01:34:13    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: all good  for next week In my view
01:34:35    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: agree @Heidi
01:34:37    Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Would a 90 min call make sense?
01:34:51    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: may as well do 90
01:35:15    Sarah Kiden: Thank you
01:35:18    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Thank you... Great meeting...
01:35:19    Hadia El Miniawi: bye
01:35:20    Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Satish might need  to be early in agenda
01:35:21    Lilian Deluque: bye
01:35:27    Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Bye...