AC Chat: 2018-07-24 ALAC Monthly Teleconference

Claudia Ruiz: (7/24/2018 12:24) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Call on Tuesday 24 July at 21:00 - 23:00 UTC

Claudia Ruiz: (12:24) https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/hfPvBQ=

John Laprise: (13:48) Hi all

Bartlett Morgan: (13:48) Hello everyone

Evin Erdoğdu: (13:50) Hello everyone!

Dave Kissoondoyal: (13:51) Hello all

Holly Raiche: (13:53) Hello all

Ricardo Holmquist: (13:53) hi everyone

Maritza Aguero: (13:55) HI everyone!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (13:57) Hola Ricardo y Maritza!

ADRIAN Schmidt: (13:57) Hello friends! Hola amigos!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (13:58) hola Adrián!

Ricardo Holmquist: (13:58) Hola Javier

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (13:59) @Ricardo, Venezuela va muy bien en los Juegos Centroamericanos! Congrats!

Ricardo Holmquist: (13:59) gracias Javier!

Maritza Aguero: (13:59) HOla Javier!

Sarah Kiden: (13:59) Hello everyone

Maritza Aguero: (14:00) Hola Adrian!

Alfredo Calderon: (14:00) Saludos a todos! Hello to all!

ADRIAN Schmidt: (14:00) Hola !

Maritza Aguero: (14:00) HOla Alfredo!!

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:01) :-)

Alfredo Calderon: (14:01) Saludos Maritza, Harold, Ricardo y Javier.

Ricardo Holmquist: (14:01) Hola Alfredo

Alfredo Calderon: (14:01) Hi Adrian!

ADRIAN Schmidt: (14:01) Hola Alfredo!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:02) Hey alfredo!

Alberto Soto: (14:03) Hello everyone, from Buenos Aires with 8 degrees C!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:04) hey @Beto!

Alberto Soto: (14:04) HI Javier, con mucho frio!!

ADRIAN Schmidt: (14:04) Hola Alberto! Aca en Canada tambien tenemos esa temperatura... en verano! Yo naci en Bahia Blanca...

Alberto Soto: (14:05) Pero es más común allí....

Alberto Soto: (14:05) Hermosa ciudad Bahía, la conozco

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:05) ICANN62 ALAC and At-Large Action Items 25-28 June Workspace: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/orPxBQ=

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:06) Policy: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAeBg=

Gisella Gruber: (14:06) Welcome Greg Shatan

Holly Raiche: (14:06) Could we have the ability to scroll please

Greg Shatan: (14:06) Hello, Giselle and all!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:07) aqui en PR esta el calor bruuuutal, sobre 37.2 celsius...

Holly Raiche: (14:07) Please someone scroll if we can't

Gisella Gruber: (14:07) @ Holly - scrolling rights

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:07) Noted Alan :-)

Holly Raiche: (14:07) Thanks

Gisella Gruber: (14:08) Glenn has joined us - welcome

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:08) Hey @Glenn!

Sarah Kiden: (14:08) :-)

Maureen Hilyard: (14:08) LOL Alan :)

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:09) I will look at that after this call SeB

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:09) Hi all

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:10) Much cooler inside today feels like 38 C with the humidity

Gisella Gruber: (14:10) Judith has joined the call - welcome!

judith Hellerstein: (14:11) What topic are we discussing?

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:13) https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAeBg= @Judith - PCs

judith Hellerstein: (14:13) Yes but which of thepolicy advice

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:14) gone

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:14) bad audio

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:14) on and off

Holly Raiche: (14:14) @ Judith - we are discussing the Subsequent Procedures report

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:14) @Judith Initial Report on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4)

Alfredo Calderon: (14:14) Can not understand.

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:14) @Tijani maybe write on chat...

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:15) speaking louder is not helping Tijani

Holly Raiche: (14:15) @ Tijani - we need intpu from EVERYONE - including you

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:16) Yes I thought the CPWG was the key to the responses to the Sub Pro Initial Report the work will no doubt need to be divided up within that WG

Marita Moll: (14:16) Hello. Could we have a link to the summary site or whatever it was that Cheryl was mentioning re work group 1-4

judith Hellerstein: (14:16) Is there a draft written for ITI

judith Hellerstein: (14:17) I have no time to devote to this but would be interested

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:17) I think "community applications" are something that should matter to ALAC & At-Large in WT3 of the GNSO Subseq Procs PDP

Holly Raiche: (14:17) @ Olivier - or Gisella - maybe resend the link to the subsequent procedures report

Holly Raiche: (14:17) @ Javier - agreed - so please commeent

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:18) will doooo

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:18) Marita it is an appendix in the Initial Report, and the ALT has already asked staff to set up a wiki space with it partitioned into sections for greater ease of ll of us to deal with it.

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:18) Jonathan Zuck joining shortly

Marita Moll: (14:18) Okay, thank you

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:19) (Holly's hand is up)

Gisella Gruber: (14:20) Jonathan Zuck has joined the call - welcome! (audio bridge only)

Claudia Ruiz: (14:21) Welcome Jonathan Zuck!

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:21) But if you want to grab it now just go to the link from the Policy Page linked from todays Agenda... NOTE we also welcome comment and input on the general report, not just the annexed questions ( that you will also find throughout the report) ... ALSO The SubPro Leadership is available to attend and assist with any briefings webinars etc., on these issues... but we need to know about them soon...

Greg Shatan: (14:22) Everyone is welcome to join the drafting group being coordinated by the IPC/BC — it is not in any way limited to IPC/BC members.

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:22) @john and Javier our NARALO newsletter is looking for policy briefs , please email to Shelly

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:23) Thanks Greg good to know...

Holly Raiche: (14:23) @ Greg - I wasn't thinking of people joining - jjust tellling people where it all fits together

Claudia Ruiz: (14:23) Welcome Harold Arcos

Marita Moll: (14:23) @cheryl -- I am just about to leave for the eurossig Internet Gov. school in Meissen and I think that will be all consuming for the next couple of weeks. So, can't do much until after that.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:24) Great @Marita, safe travels...

John Laprise: (14:24) I have significant concerns about the legal basis under GDPR for the PII collected and controlled by ICANN. If we're talking about who gets access, we'll have to frame it in terms of the GDPR legal grounds

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:24) Hola @Harold! Venezuela esta matando en los Centroamericanos!

Holly Raiche: (14:24) Agreed OC - maybe talk tomorrow?

Greg Shatan: (14:24) Holly, understood. I was responding more to Alan’s comment about the “origins” of the work product.

Holly Raiche: (14:25) (sorry - OCL)

John Laprise: (14:25) I speak being in the middle/lead of my employer's GDPR compliance roadmap

Holly Raiche: (14:25) @ John - so you won't escape!

Bastiaan Goslings: (14:26) @John: I totally agree with you

Holly Raiche: (14:27) @ Bastiann - you won't escape either

Bastiaan Goslings: (14:27) hahaha

Bastiaan Goslings: (14:27) I wish

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:28) Well that was a Policy Issue Alan ;-)

Harold Arcos: (14:29) Gracias @Claudia, I'm through cellphone

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:29) @Erin i am following up with Garth Bruen who says he is wrapping up his ALS and will be sending documentation to drop out

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:30) @Erin. two persons suppose to be applying for Unaffilated and will followup

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:30) @Glenn great, thank you - look forward to receiving information

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:30) Note as per Alan. I asked Garth to consider as others to become Unaffilaited

Harold Arcos: (14:31) saluodos @Javier!! great team :(

Harold Arcos: (14:31) :)

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (14:31) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__individualusers.org_our-2Dmembers-2Dcommunity_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=zTJT-xEvrrQcN3GRXgPNV6Vd2m7L7xjxd69rasGgY4U&e=

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:31) (sorry @Alan, should have mentioned the wt5 call during AOB...) Will post link later...

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:32) Gremlins!

Maritza Aguero: (14:33) Thank you @Olivier! Very much interesting!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:34) Thanks!!!!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:34) The team is great!!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:35) If by osmosis just a little bit of @CLO filters in to me, I'll surely end up an infinitely better human.

Sarah Kiden: (14:36) Thank you Cheryl

Alberto Soto: (14:37) CLO is my role model..

Greg Shatan: (14:37) Jurisdictional immunity - sounds like a fun topic.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:38) Now Greg ;-)

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:38) @CLO has at least 4 independent brains.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:38) Why Thank you @Alberto!

judith Hellerstein: (14:38) Can some one mute the noise on the line, when Yrjo is speaking

Alberto Soto: (14:39) I think some more Javier...

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:39) :)

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:39) not me!

Claudia Ruiz: (14:39) Welcome Hadia Elminiawi

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:40) @Yrjo The GAC Liaison to the ALAC is a huge thing and a great boon to our future collaboration in my very biased view...

judith Hellerstein: (14:40) Glenn and I are the Liaisons from NARALO

Silvia Vivanco: (14:41) CROP Review team: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D43982055&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=g9MmoGGybYAXagxW28jrLAM_eKvHLTdaOjs41N2ZxoY&e=

judith Hellerstein: (14:41) The idea was to provide feedback and catch mistakes in the applications

Silvia Vivanco: (14:41) CROP Program coordinators: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_CROP19_CROP-2BContacts&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=MNvQSn2M96zuRr14VJag2GjC0nIZ3eO8kz6kZRxtP2k&e=

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:41) hola @Silvia!

Marita Moll: (14:42) Sorry, have to leave briefly, but will be back

judith Hellerstein: (14:43) The program coordinators is an ICANN term assigned to them

Gisella Gruber: (14:43) Hadia has joined the call - welcome!

Hadia Elminiawi: (14:44) Thank you Gisella

Heidi Ullrich: (14:44) CROP Guidelines, including the responsiblities of the Contact Points: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_CROP19_CROP-2BProcedures-2Band-2BGuidelines&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=gh88zYC_y906FEGGK5lS_b2AAPp4eCEAANk0irBVsAU&e=

Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:44) nothing from Tijani

Heidi Ullrich: (14:44) PC's responsbilities: All Plans must be reviewed by the group's leadership and the appropriate regional ICANN GSE vice-president(s). The group’s appointed Program Coordinator (PC) will certify, within the template, when these reviews have taken place and communicate those results to CROP staff.

Hadia Elminiawi: (14:44) there was a aproblem with my sound I had to shutdown and reboot

Heidi Ullrich: (14:45) Closing the CROP RT would also save 2 weeks in the process for CROP process for the RALOs.

Heidi Ullrich: (14:45) From 8 weeks to 6 weeks

Heidi Ullrich: (14:45) CROP PCs are https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_CROP19_CROP-2BContacts&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=MNvQSn2M96zuRr14VJag2GjC0nIZ3eO8kz6kZRxtP2k&e=

Sarah Kiden: (14:46) Not sure if Olivier's and Judith's explanations are the same. Seem different

Heidi Ullrich: (14:47) Current CROP RT members are the same as the current PCs: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D43982055-23At-2DLargeCommunityRegionalOutreachProgramReviewTeam-28CROPRT-29-2DMembers&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=bZcUsk1BjLJZJ3s0coCNFJwqo8-bBIaPE_287JyON3M&e=

Alberto Soto: (14:48) For Olivier,please

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:48) yes

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:48) Go AHead Tijani

Greg Shatan: (14:48) Tijani can you hear us?

Hadia Elminiawi: (14:48) yes tijani

Heidi Ullrich: (14:48) we here you, Tijani

John Laprise: (14:48) tijani we hear you

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:48) we hear YOU

Sarah Kiden: (14:48) We hear you

Heidi Ullrich: (14:49) The CROP RT has the aims of: Similar to how RALO budget requests were reviewed by the ALAC Subcommittee on Finance and Budget (FBSC) before submitting to ICANN Finance, the At-Large CROP Review Team (CROP RT) was established by the ALAC to: Review and approve RALO requests for CROP funding to ensure the objectives of travel requests are in line with both ICANN and regional engagement strategy, as well as At-Large outreach strategy. Confirm with the regional Global Stakeholder Engagement (GSE) VPs that the purpose of CROP requests are consistent with the specific RALO outreach strategic plan and ICANN's regional engagement strategy. Submit the travel requests to ICANN once approved by the CROP RT.

Alberto Soto: (14:49) I suggest that you write the full RALOS and analyze them later.

Heidi Ullrich: (14:49) The RALOs believe the PCs/RALOs can do this on their own now.

Sarah Kiden: (14:50) Yes, Heidi. I believe that is what was agreed

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:50) thanks, @OCL, @Judith, @Tijani and thanks @Alan for summarizing

Heidi Ullrich: (14:51) With coordination of the SC on O/E.

Maritza Aguero: (14:52) How have this liaison been chosen? In our case 2 of the 3 coordinators are not members anymore and we must replace them.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:52) We know that Judith

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:52) the Co-Ord are also in parity with other parts of the ICANN Community that benefit from CROP

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:53) That is what I clearly heard from the start OCL YES!

judith Hellerstein: (14:53) @maritza they are appointed by the ralo

Heidi Ullrich: (14:53) The PCs may need some review and updating...

Greg Shatan: (14:54) Can we call them Central Scrutinizers?

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:56) Heidi, it's up to each RALO to appoint their PCs

Maritza Aguero: (14:56) This is a very importat topic for us and we are going to analize this issue.

judith Hellerstein: (14:56) Yes Maritza, it is up to the ralo to appoint the new people

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:56) Heidi, It's up to each RALO to appoint the PCs they want

Heidi Ullrich: (14:56) @Tijani, correct. That is what the Regional Leaders discussed as well.

Gisella Gruber: (14:56) Leon Sanchez has joined the call - welcome!

Evin Erdoğdu: (14:57) Welcome, Leon!

Leon Sanchez: (14:57) hello everyone!

Leon Sanchez: (14:57) Thanks Evin!

Leon Sanchez: (14:57) Thanks Gisella!

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (14:57) Hi Leon!

Sarah Kiden: (14:57) Yes, Tijani. That is what we agreed. RALOs will appoint their PCs. Thank you, Heidi.

Sarah Kiden: (14:57) Welcome, Leon

Leon Sanchez: (14:58) Hello Cheryl :*

Leon Sanchez: (14:58) Thanks Sarah!

Silvia Vivanco: (14:58) @ Maritza see PPT pointed in the CROP RT wiki for history on CROP RT: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D43982055-26preview-3D_43982055_53281723_At-2DLarge-2DCROPP-2D15-2DOct-2D2014.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=LqNgd7Ylh07XhmTLtf0TFZ98wHfdeuWuNLeFazcyGlI&e=

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (14:58) @Greg LOL "central scrutinizers!"

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (14:59) Yes we should abolish it

Maritza Aguero: (14:59) Thank you @Silvia!

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:05) we trust you sebastian

John Laprise: (15:07) +1 sebastien

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:09) tijani we can hear you

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:10) yes

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:10) we can hear you

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:10) Ohh dear

Marita Moll: (15:10) Hearing only parts of the arguement

Greg Shatan: (15:10) What do the bylaws or rules of procedure actually say?

Alan Greenberg: (15:11) As I pointed out to Sebastien, it will be one BIGPULSE vote per NomCom delegate. Each Bigpulse vote will have 15 voters, the 15 ALAC members

Maureen Hilyard: (15:11) Heidi.. the RALOS still have to consult with their GSE rep before it can be OKed, and they were doing that before anyway.

John Laprise: (15:11) @greg if memory serves the bylaws are vague

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:12) Thx

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:13) I have a question Alan

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:13) did you ask EURALO to submit other candidates?

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:13) No we do not know Seb

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:14) No announcement at this stage

Leon Sanchez: (15:14) it hasn’t been selected

Greg Shatan: (15:14) @John, ICANN Bylaws don

Greg Shatan: (15:14) don’t specify how ALAC should make the selection.

Evin Erdoğdu: (15:14) 1 (Chair Decides) - GREEN VS 2a/b (Supermajority) - RED

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:14) I vote for option 2 and eventually will vote for 2(a).

John Laprise: (15:14) choice 1

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:15) A vote

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:15) 2A

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:15) 2A

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:16) 2

Holly Raiche: (15:16) Three people have voted in the chat

Maureen Hilyard: (15:17) Another decision done!

Holly Raiche: (15:18) @ Tijani - could you use the chat???

Sebastien: (15:19) Andrei

Sarah Kiden: (15:19) :-)

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:19) I don't want the décision be taken now

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:19) Alan said Tijani and Barack

Greg Shatan: (15:19) I have no vote, but I note that the default in the ALAC RoP is “Consensus” defined as 80% of the sitting ALAC Members....

Holly Raiche: (15:19) (@ Tijani - your messaage will be clearer if you use the cha)

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:19) they are both great!

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:20) agree with you alan

John Laprise: (15:20) motion to reappoint all 4

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:20) Reappoint!

Bastiaan Goslings: (15:20) agree, reappoint

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:20) reappoint

Alberto Soto: (15:20) +1 John

Greg Shatan: (15:20) With apologies, I must leave for a rehearsal.

Ricardo Holmquist: (15:20) reappoint

Bastiaan Goslings: (15:21) @greg: doing Joe's Garage?

Holly Raiche: (15:21) Thanks Greg

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:21) Yes, we should open them for nomination

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:21) @Greg Sax rehearsal??

Greg Shatan: (15:21) Bastiaan, indeed!

Greg Shatan: (15:21) “Columbia Summer Winds”

Bastiaan Goslings: (15:21) excellent! enjoy ;-)

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:21) great enjoy greg

Maureen Hilyard: (15:21) Reappoint all from me...

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:22) Jazzin'

Greg Shatan: (15:22) As one with some experience in GNSO matters, Cheryl is superb as a liaison.

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:22) I propose to open them for nomination

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:23) Alan we had the the worst representation on the EPDP

Heidi Ullrich: (15:23) John Laprise: motion to reappoint all 4

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:24) At Large Review was defeated by facts and number crunching.

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:24) agree reappoint all 4

Maureen Hilyard: (15:24) I agree with Holly - keep them for another year.. I like Bartlett's idea about having a shadow for at least a year.. and if they are accepted by the other constituency then we can look at a possible change

Holly Raiche: (15:25) To explain better - always seriously consider reappointments

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:25) Let's perpetuate our liaisons

Holly Raiche: (15:25) And agree with Bastiaan's suggeston as well

Greg Shatan: (15:25) It’s always good to have some thoughts about succession in mind, so that ALAC is not caught short if someone bows out. But one shadow might look too manufactured.

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:25) ITEMS were not really wrong

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:26) I am also not sure that a Liaison is "ALAC Leadership" per se... that is reflected in the different sections of the Rules of Procedure relating to these Appointments as opposed to selection or Election of Leadershhip And most Liaisons (well at least me) have good records in succession planning

Greg Shatan: (15:26) The liaisons themselves should think about their replacements as well.

Holly Raiche: (15:26) @ Greg - other suggestions for sucession planning?

Greg Shatan: (15:26) Mortal combat.

Holly Raiche: (15:26) Maybe stick to jazz

Greg Shatan: (15:26) :-)

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:26) Now that is unfair @Greg you know how I will fare in that sort of arena ;-)

John Laprise: (15:26) +1 Alan

Maureen Hilyard: (15:27) For the ccNSO position several years ago Cheryl had two shadows, but one dropped out..

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:27) serious Jazz can be like a mortal combat

Greg Shatan: (15:27) A committee or “kitchen cabinet” might work with a liaison, thus providing a pipeline of successors.

Greg Shatan: (15:27) Cutting sessions! Tenor sax battles!!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:28) exactly @Greg

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:28) Of course we always need to work with the receiving entity regarding who is acceptable to them they need to be "received" and succession planning has to take that into account

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:28) I support and second motion to reappoint all 4.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:31) Surely you could have settled this now Alan??

Heidi Ullrich: (15:33) Congratulations, Leon!

Sarah Kiden: (15:33) Congratulations!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:35) Since @Leon brings the GNSO PDP Subseq Procs WG topic up: Dear WT5 Members & Observers, remember than in a bit more than 6 hours we have our next call for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level will take place on Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 05:00 UTC for 90 minutes. (Tuesday) 22:00 PDT, 01:00 EDT, 07:00 Paris CEST, 10:00 Karachi PKT, 14:00 Tokyo JST, 15:00 Melbourne AESTFor other times: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yb6onue7&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=nAwvy1Rn5NKHc2qHgEm-1K1ADuuYXhI5SYfYA_qnYt0&e= Agenda Wiki: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/Y9_ABg= The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=vZ5GGCn81psOAuxaAcdMKpPnmzVjArahTBq8KTnDH5U&e= Adobe Connect room: https://participate.icann.org/new-gtld-wt5 If you’re having trouble joining, please check your plug ins: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tinyurl.com_icannactestPlease&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=PCjqigecEm5hdCcAoJDfmy40ptFdnDYLWCiIIeHZO5Y&e= allow yourself additional time before start of meeting to log into Adobe Connect.

Alan Greenberg: (15:36) Javier, in the future we will charge if you place advertisements in the chat!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:36) Congrats!!!

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:37) Haaaa! Its my job to eat, drink, sleep, etc, etc WT5!!!

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:37) Well SubPro in general but WT5 in particular my friend @Javier

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:38) :)

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:38) Gracias Leon!

Maureen Hilyard: (15:38) Thanks Leon.. :)

Holly Raiche: (15:38) Thanks Leon for theupdate

Bastiaan Goslings: (15:38) thank you, Leon!

Ricardo Holmquist: (15:38) gracias Leon

Leon Sanchez: (15:38) Gracias a ustedes Javier!

Alfredo Calderon: (15:39) @Leon, gracias por el informe.

Leon Sanchez: (15:39) Thank you Maureen, Holly, Baastian!

Alberto Soto: (15:39) @Javier, es reunión abierta?

Leon Sanchez: (15:39) Gracias a ustedes, Ricardo y Alfredo

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:40) Oye @Leon, MX acaba de ponerse en 1ra posicion en el medallero centroamericano en Barranquilla. Estan, como decimos en PR, comiendose la liga!

Leon Sanchez: (15:40) I need to leave now. My apologies for not staying thill the end

Leon Sanchez: (15:40) Thanks for having me and for listening

Leon Sanchez: (15:40) talk to you all soon!

Heidi Ullrich: (15:40) Thanks, Leon!

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:40) Thanks for joining us Leon...

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:40) ciao!

Leon Sanchez: (15:40) bye!

Alberto Soto: (15:40) GraciasLeon, Abrazo!

Claudia Ruiz: (15:40) Thank you, Leon

Bartlett Morgan: (15:42) lol

Heidi Ullrich: (15:42) I was getting back to where it was ;)

Sarah Kiden: (15:42) :-)

Maureen Hilyard: (15:43) I am happy to get ideas from everyone.. the comments I have made are things that are top of my head as I was putting this doc together. We will fix problems as we decide as an implementation team.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:44) Fear not Alan we will be brutal on any scope creeping.

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:44) the 30th I had thought...

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:45) Ahh ok that will be to meet a key persons availability perhaps...

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:45) the plan still needs to be flexible

Heidi Ullrich: (15:46) CPWG Workspace: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D82411661&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=CXERzIws_vaPY8WrLB9yz2PICpecEh3yA9MaabnyyBk&m=KxkluY1OwpEvTCU9js3_Wsy0vtJT0Ll0HScfLg45g60&s=NcjU8p19boRL0Zj59sjPJudbm6k5Ex6ulpdi-SetH7M&e=

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:46) Yes there will be audio streaming of the calls

Heidi Ullrich: (15:47) The Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) merged three previous At-Large Working Groups: At-Large Registration Issues Working Group, At-Large New gTLDs Working Group and At-Large ICANN Evolution Working Group.

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:47) em

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:47) Yes the Webform is similar to the type of form used for GNSO Council meetings and alternates to hold for a meeting

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:47) EPDP "Extremely Painful Difficult Process"

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:47) LOL @Javier

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:47) email staff@atlarge.icann.org if you wish to join the consolidated policy working group

Evin Erdoğdu: (15:49) I was just dropped from Adigo bridge

Evin Erdoğdu: (15:49) Back

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:50) i see no x

Holly Raiche: (15:50) I don't see the X either

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:50) I woud think his x is a no vote after all he posted the alternate motion

Heidi Ullrich: (15:50) Tijani, how do you vote?

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:51) Yes

Gisella Gruber: (15:51) Seun is on AUDIO BRIDGE only with UNMUTED line

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:51) Yes

Tijani BEN JEMAA: (15:52) Yes, I vote against

Sebastien: (15:52) 12+1+1

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:52) 13 with Seun

Sebastien: (15:52) Andrei

Sebastien: (15:52) 13+1+1

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:53) Andrei may not have wished to vote on something about himself

Maureen Hilyard: (15:53) Congratulations to our Liaisons :)

Sarah Kiden: (15:53) Congratulations

Javier Rúa-Jovet: (15:53) bye

Ricardo Holmquist: (15:53) Bye to all

Sarah Kiden: (15:53) Thank you all

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:53) Congratulations

Bartlett Morgan: (15:53) conngrats all

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:53) thank you

Kaili Kan: (15:53) Thanks to all!

Alberto Soto: (15:53) Thanks, bye bye!!!

Hadia Elminiawi: (15:53) bye

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (15:54) thank you for your ccontinued trust and support...

Evin Erdoğdu: (15:54) Thank you all!

Harold Arcos: (15:54) thanks all,,,

Claudia Ruiz: (15:55) Thank you all