13 February 2013 Meeting
- Berry Cobb
Analytics
When: Wednesday, 13 February 2013. GMT Standard Time. 19:00 UTC / This is a 120 Minute Call.
11:00 PST, 14:00 EST, 19:00 London, 20:00 CET
Adobe Connect Link: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/r1onj8cflqp/
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-20130213-en.mp3
On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
Attendees:
Iliya Bazlyankov – RrSG
Jim Bikoff – IPC/IOC
Avri Doria – NCSG
Chuck Gomes - RySG
Alan Greenberg - ALAC
Catherine Gribbin - Red Cross
Stephane Hankins - NCSG
David Heasley - IPC/IOC
Evan Lebovitch - ALAC
Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC/IOC
Christopher Rassi - Red Cross
Thomas Rickert – NCA –Working group chair
Greg Shatan - IPC
Claudia MacMaster Tamarit - ISO
Mary Wong - NCUC
Mason Cole - GNSO Council vice chair - RrSG
Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP
Elizabeth Finberg - RySG
Lanre Ajayi - NCA
Debra Hughes - NPOC
Apologies:
Robin Gross
Wolfgang Kleinwachter
ICANN Staff:
Brian Peck
Berry Cobb
Gisella Gruber
Proposed Agenda – IGO-INGO WG Meeting – 13 FEB 2013 @ 19:00 UTC (120 Min):
- Roll Call / SOI Update
- Status of General Council Request
- Review of SG&C Input from NCSG
- NOTP- Harm Evaluation Discussion & Next Steps
- Domain Registration evaluation
- Survey contents and scope of participants
- Further Define potential protection mechanisms
- Review IGO-INGO Work Plan / Beijing Face-to-face Session??
- Next steps & confirm next meeting (20 FEB 2013 @ 17:00 UTC (120 MIN))
Action Items
1. None
Adobe Chat transcript for 13 February 2013:
Berry Cobb: Welcome to the 13 FEB 2013 IGO-INGO Conference call.
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Hi all, Kiran, Jim and David are here and on the phone.
Gisella Gruber-White: Kiran - would you be so kind as to confirm David's surname
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Heasley! Sorry, I was a minute too late on that one.
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Thanks Gisella
Gisella Gruber-White: Thank you
Avri Doria: So we are still without an answer on International law?
Gisella Gruber-White: Debra Hughes has joined the call
Gisella Gruber-White: Osvaldo Novoa has joined the call
Osvaldo Novoa: Hi All, Sorry I'm late
Evan Leibovitch: +1 Avri
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Thomas
Alan Greenberg: Am I the only one with a big blank area in the middle of the window Berry is sharing??
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): I am experiencing that as well Alan
Gisella Gruber-White: Same here
Mary Wong: If u stare really, really hard, you can see a white rabbit :) :)
Evan Leibovitch: Thank you very much for this work. This is the kind of hard evidence that helps establish whether abuse is real or imagined
Evan Leibovitch: (of course there are some grey areas, such as the judgement of whether a monetizing squatter constitutes "abuse" or "harm"
Evan Leibovitch: (the yellow sqares on the chart)
Greg Shatan: That doesn't seem like much of a gray area to me.
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Greg
Evan Leibovitch: Is to me.
Greg Shatan: Remind me to monetize evanleibovitch.com .
Evan Leibovitch: you're welcome to it
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): prohibition by law is pretty black and white to us.
Evan Leibovitch: IThen use the law.
Evan Leibovitch: Actually, Greg. evanleibovitch.* will be unbought by me in any new gTLDs. You're wlecome to them too.
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): The law need not only be applied reactively.
Greg Shatan: No, thanks. I don't want to break the law.
Alan Greenberg: I know they extracted lots of money from not-for-profit universities.
Greg Shatan: This is supposed to be a self-regulatory body, among other things. UDRP was created not because there was no law to enforce., but because it was in the best interests of Internet stakeholders to have a cost-effective mechanism to deal with domain name infringement issues and to forestall costly potential litigation that might have had uncertain and far-reaching consequences.
Greg Shatan: Not the Martlet?!
Evan Leibovitch: I have no problem with IGOs and INGOs having access to URS and UDRP. It's asking for broader protections -- ones not even available for trandemark holders -- that is at issue
Evan Leibovitch: +1 Alan
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): +1 Thomas
Evan Leibovitch: +1 Greg
Avri Doria: i hate the name MRNLCH
Avri Doria: but i am ok with the idea
Evan Leibovitch: I thought we were not talking implementation?
Avri Doria: Humanitarian Organization Clearing House?
Evan Leibovitch: Do yopu want me to speak to it more?
Avri Doria: Special Organization Clearing House
Avri Doria: Modified RPMs is something I think could be 'sold' to my constituency/SG. blocking is not. (caveats on the fact that I have not tried to make the sale yett, and thius am only speaking personally)
Osvaldo Novoa: All, sorry but I have to leave for another meeting. Best regards
Greg Shatan: IGOTCHA = International Governmental (and Nongovernmental) Organization Clearing House Annex
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): a very enthusiastic +1 to IGOTCHA Greg
Avri Doria: I have to admit IGOTCHA sound appropriate.
Berry Cobb: http://www.igotcha.com/
Avri Doria: LOL
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): awww man. back to the drawing board.
Avri Doria: .org is also avaialble.
Avri Doria: no it is not. it is parked
Avri Doria: sure fact to face good.
Avri Doria: face to face rather. though fact to face might be god
Kiran Malancharuvil/Jim Bikoff (IOC): Thanks Thomas
Chuck Gomes: Thanks Thomas.
Mary Wong: Thanks!
Gisella Gruber-White: Thank you all