ALAC AC Chat transcript EN 2014-08-26
- Terri Agnew
- Aleksey Khapchenko
- Kathy Schnitt
Gisella Gruber: (8/26/2014 09:13) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly call on Tuesday 26 August 2014 at 1400 UTC
Gisella Gruber: (09:15) Draft agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/ptDvBQ
Jean-Jacques Subrenat 2: (09:52) Hello All!
Ron Sherwood: (09:57) Hi, Everyone!
Eduardo Diaz: (09:58) ¡Hola a todos!
Judith Hellerstein: (09:59) HI All
Glenn McKnight: (09:59) Greetings
Evan Leibovitch: (09:59) G'day, eh?
Fatima Cambronero: (10:00) hello everyone
sandra hoferichter: (10:01) Hi everyone!
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (10:02) Hello everyone
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:03) Olivier, your sound seems a bit far away.
Leon Sanchez: (10:03) Hello every9one
Loris Taylor: (10:04) Good morning
Julie Hammer: (10:04) Fine for me.
Ali Almeshal: (10:05) hi everyone
Gisella Gruber: (10:06) Welcome to everyone
Leon Sanchez: (10:06) I am losing Gisella
Judith Hellerstein: (10:06) Gisela you are dropping
Glenn McKnight: (10:06) Gisella is breaking up
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:06) Olivier, your sound still muffled.
Glenn McKnight: (10:06) she is fine now
Murray McKercher: (10:06) good morning
Judith Hellerstein: (10:06) she is fine now,
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:06) Gisella loud and clear. Olivier faint.
Murray McKercher: (10:07) I hear staff
Judith Hellerstein: (10:07) +1 JJS
Otunte Otueneh: (10:07) hello everyone
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:07) roll call?
Judith Hellerstein: (10:09) Rafik: We can not hear you
Glenn McKnight: (10:09) Rafi is inaudible
Gisella Gruber: (10:09) @ Raf - we cant hear you - interpreters having issues
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:09) Heidi, Gisella: maybe I missed roll call? Just for a complete process...
Allan Skuce: (10:09) Greetings.
Judith Hellerstein: (10:09) JJS we did a roll call already
Gisella Gruber: (10:09) @ JJS - roll call after adoption of agenda
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:09) ah, ok Judith and Gisella. Sorry.
Judith Hellerstein: (10:10) Gisela announced who had joined the call, the adobe chat,
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:11) Roll call is #2 on the agenda, not #1
Alan Greenberg: (10:12) It is REALLY good to see so many non-ALAC and even non-RALO leadership on these calls!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:12) agree Alan. Great turnout
Leon Sanchez: (10:13) +1 Alan
Heidi Ullrich: (10:13) Action items of 22 July ALAC meeting: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99611052/ALAC+2014+-07-22+Action+Items
Leon Sanchez: (10:13) Also great to see that the russian channel is being used
Oksana Prykhodko: (10:14) Hi everybody
Oksana Prykhodko: (10:15) @Leon - reat to have Russian channel!
Glenn McKnight: (10:19) We have the ISOC Disabled and Special Needs as a Global ALS
Judith Hellerstein: (10:19) He is getting Married
Leon Sanchez: (10:20) How come he get married on the day the ALAC calls takes place... :P
Judith Hellerstein: (10:20) not sure it is actually this day but this week
Leon Sanchez: (10:20) @Judith I think it is indeed today. Great news!
Alan Greenberg: (10:20) This coming weekend I think.
Alan Greenberg: (10:21) A@Glenn, the issue is we do not havve a concept of a Global ALS (and as Olivier says, we may not want such a concept). But that is the topic ofr another day.
Glenn McKnight: (10:21) Thanks Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (10:24) and note the need for Metrics Related information in this AI. the Metric are needed for the ROI work post ATLAS II
Alan Greenberg: (10:26) The wide attendance at this meeting is a clear ROI in my mind. Not sure how one quantifies it though.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:28) count :-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (10:28) agreed and noted @alan
Fatima Cambronero: (10:30) the sound is very low in the Spanish channel
Kathy Schnitt: (10:32) @Fatima I will notify the Spanish Channel now
Fatima Cambronero: (10:32) thanks Kathy
Kathy Schnitt: (10:33) @Fatima is it better now?
Fatima Cambronero: (10:33) no, it is still now. The problem is with Claudia, who is speaking now
Fatima Cambronero: (10:34) *low sorry
Heidi Ullrich: (10:34) ALS update - both of the ALSes that are shown as pending being approved - have been approved! We are at 180 in terms of numbers.
Evan Leibovitch: (10:35) Does that account for the two that have been removed?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (10:37) I must say this SAC067 is very useful. ... thanks to SSAC for this and look forward to the following doc
Glenn McKnight: (10:37) I did a short interview with Patrik
Glenn McKnight: (10:37) Here is the video
Glenn McKnight: (10:37) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK4JMW4IonA
Glenn McKnight: (10:37) @Julie i posted the short video with Patric
Julie Hammer: (10:38) Glenn, many thanks for pointing that out.
Fatima Cambronero: (10:39) thanks @Glenn
Oksana Prykhodko: (10:40) @Maureen - did you see my table on ccTLD and GAC for Europe?
Leon Sanchez: (10:42) I lost Tijani
Gisella Gruber: (10:43) @ Tijani - we are dialling out to you
Gisella Gruber: (10:43) @ Tijani - you muted yourself on the bridge and your audio is bad
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:44) As ccNSO has a committee specifically on Stewardship Transition, just like ALAC, it would be worthwhile suggesting joint positions, e.g. on the draft of the RFP, discussed today in the ICG.
Maureen Hilyard: (10:44) Hi Oksana can you give me a link. That will be great - you can be our contact for the EURALO page. Thank you
Maureen Hilyard: (10:45) Thank you Tijani. We'll take your comments on board
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:45) Olivier: ok.
Evan Leibovitch: (10:46) My interest is in waiting to see the effects of this round before starting a new one.
Murray McKercher: (10:47) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.mobi
Evan Leibovitch: (10:47) Not likelty to be popular in a group that, by its nature, wants to rush a new round.
Ariel Liang: (10:49) here is the policy development page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAeBg
Gisella Gruber: (10:49) PAD: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAeBg
Murray McKercher: (10:53) @evan, this sounds logical to me
Raf Fatani: (10:53) I wholeheartedly agree
Oksana Prykhodko: (10:55) @Maureen - send it to you by e-mail. I do not know how to send link for Excel(
Oksana Prykhodko: (10:55) Dropped(
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:55) I've been dropped too
Kathy Schnitt: (10:55) @Okasana we will dial back out to you
Leon Sanchez: (10:55) I agree with the principle but then again if we subject it to revision it feels like we have to go through the whole process again
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:56) I can hear through AC
Fatima Cambronero: (10:56) my call dropped too
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:56) next in the queue -- Evan?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (10:56) call dropped
Kathy Schnitt: (10:56) @ Cheryl we will dial back out to you
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:57) @Evan: please make the text exactly as you want it recorded
Kathy Schnitt: (10:57) Olivier Adigo is dialing back out to you
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:57) Ariel -- ready?
Alan Greenberg: (10:57) I secon Evan's motion.
Leon Sanchez: (10:57) I second the motion
Fatima Cambronero: (10:57) back. Thanks
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:57) still awaiting dial out
Fatima Cambronero: (10:57) can you repet the motion please?
Fatima Cambronero: (10:57) I was out
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:58) Can Tijani please Chair?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (10:58) Evan your line dropped a few seconds.
Gisella Gruber: (10:58) PLEASE say your names for interpreters
Fatima Cambronero: (10:59) please repeat the motion
Fatima Cambronero: (10:59) I could'n hear
Oksana Prykhodko: (10:59) Please do NOT call dial-out to me
Kathy Schnitt: (10:59) @Okasana we will not dial you
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (10:59) ok back on
Leon Sanchez: (11:00) two character second-level domain names
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:00) I have been listening to the discussion on AC
Oksana Prykhodko: (11:00) I have to go for the meeting, I will read transcript later. Have a good discussion!
Raf Fatani: (11:01) moi
Kathy Schnitt: (11:01) @Oksana thank you and enjoy the rest of your day.
Tijani BEN JEMAA: (11:01) I second too
Oksana Prykhodko: (11:01) Thank you, Kathy! Bye
Murray McKercher: (11:01) @ Olivier, as a clarifcation on process who on this call is eligible to vote on this motion?
Raf Fatani: (11:02) can we move this on to email vote?
Fatima Cambronero: (11:02) my call dropped again
Kathy Schnitt: (11:02) @Fatima I will have you dialed out to again
Fatima Cambronero: (11:03) thanks Kathy
Evan Leibovitch: (11:03) Original statement that we are referring to: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102648647/At-Large+Introduction+of+Two-Character+Domain+Names+in+the+New+gTLD+Namespace+Workspace
Leon Sanchez: (11:03) To make the ALAC statement previously passed on two character second-level domain names applicable to future revisit of the issue where applications are equal to that which motivated the passed ALAC statement
Fatima Cambronero: (11:03) @Olivier I second this motion but I have a comment from LACRALO.
Ali Almeshal: (11:04) y
Eduardo Diaz: (11:04) @Fatima: levanta tu manao
Glenn McKnight: (11:04) How many for quorum?
Fatima Cambronero: (11:04) sorry I am waiting the call from Adigo
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:05) 8 for Quorum
Julie Hammer: (11:05) Apologies, but I need to drop of this call now. Bye everyone.
Glenn McKnight: (11:05) Thanks
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:05) dropped again!
Fatima Cambronero: (11:05) but meanwhile count my vote as yes
Kathy Schnitt: (11:05) Olivier we will dial back out to you now
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:05) really sorry -- waht is going on?
Eduardo Diaz: (11:05) Whi si chairing now?
Glenn McKnight: (11:05) I have never been called a Gremlin before
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:05) I have given the floor to Fatima
Fatima Cambronero: (11:05) Tijani I am waiting the call
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:06) ok so also dropped
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (11:06) I am also dropped again. *sigh*
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:06) Tijani -- please Chair -- ask all those in favour
Kathy Schnitt: (11:06) @ Cheryl we will dial back out to you again
Fatima Cambronero: (11:06) back
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:06) back on the call
Ariel Liang: (11:07) Only ALAC members please
Raf Fatani: (11:08) yes
Murray McKercher: (11:08) i can hear Fatima very well
Fatima Cambronero: (11:09) thanks
Kathy Schnitt: (11:10) @Olivier Carlos Vera on ES would like the floor
Evan Leibovitch: (11:11) Olivier, we don't need to explain the issue here. I have offere to attend a future LACRALO meeting to explain the issue.
Fatima Cambronero: (11:11) thanks Evan. We will plan your participation in our next call
Leon Sanchez: (11:12) and Maureen Hilyard
Ariel Liang: (11:12) 13 people voted yes
Ariel Liang: (11:12) captured all
Ali Almeshal: (11:13) Arial please add me for yes
Heidi Ullrich: (11:13) CorrectIon @Ali, the vote is only for ALAC members
Evan Leibovitch: (11:14) My apoligies. I did not expect the vote would take this much of the meeting. Still, it's faster than BigPulse ;-)
Fatima Cambronero: (11:15) :)
Alan Greenberg: (11:15) I think that Fatima's comment and the situation behind it raises an important issue. We do not want ALAC members to simply agree with votes without understanding the issues, nor do we want people using abstentions for such reasons. So we need to work harder to make sure that issues are fully clear to all BEFORE we go to vote..
Leon Sanchez: (11:15) by Fatima and myself
Fatima Cambronero: (11:15) no, we didn't vote yet
Fatima Cambronero: (11:16) thanks @Alan, I agree
Murray McKercher: (11:17) @Gisella I must leave the AC room but will continue to monitor the call on the dial in bridge
Evan Leibovitch: (11:18) +1 Alan
Gisella Gruber: (11:18) @ Murray - thank you for letting me know
Ariel Liang: (11:19) This is the public comment request being discussed: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/qUweBg
Ariel Liang: (11:19) This is the public comment about the Board Working Group: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/x0weBg
Evan Leibovitch: (11:22) We should have current positions at least informed by past commentary (ie, R3).
Alan Greenberg: (11:23) Certainly.
Heidi Ullrich: (11:23) See the Charter at: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/99602598/CWG-DT%20Draft%20Charter%20-%2014%20August%202014%20Updated.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1408742104000&api=v2
Maureen Hilyard: (11:29) The ccNSO council has adopted this charter
Evan Leibovitch: (11:30) Do we have a motion on the floor before discussing it now?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:30) Thanks Maureen!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:30) Motion on the agenda, Evan
Evan Leibovitch: (11:30) If we're going to approve it now, the process is motion -> second -> discuss -> vote
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:30) Motion to be voted on: Does the ALAC agree to endorse the CWG Charter DT?
Evan Leibovitch: (11:31) seconder? Sorry if I didn't hear ir
Evan Leibovitch: (11:32) I agree withg Alan
Alan Greenberg: (11:33) Yes, I understand and therefore support it.
Evan Leibovitch: (11:33) Alan, are you satisfied that the current charter does not keep accountability out of scope?
Alan Greenberg: (11:33) The .ir case make it rather important...
Fatima Cambronero: (11:35) the scope is in the screen now
Alan Greenberg: (11:35) Relationship to ICANN Accountability Review ProcessThe IANA stewardship transition process is taking place alongside a parallel and related process on enhancing ICANN accountability. While maintaining the accountability of Internet identifier governance is central to both processes, this group’s scope is focused on the arrangements required for the continuance of IANA functions in an accountable and widely accepted manner after the expiry of the NTIA-ICANN contract. Nevertheless, the two processes are interrelated and interdependent and should appropriately coordinate their work. Accountability for the administration of the IANA functions (i.e., implementation and operational accountability), however, is properly within the scope of this working group.
Alan Greenberg: (11:35) Last sentence
Maureen Hilyard: (11:36) This final sentence was a 'friendly amendment' which was adopted separately by the ccNSO Council
Evan Leibovitch: (11:43) Question: Does there exist a working group in which this is being discussed?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (11:45) Evan: ALAC ExeCom ?
Evan Leibovitch: (11:46) too limited in membership, and it has its own full plate
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (11:46) ok.
Fatima Cambronero: (11:47) +1 @Evan
Ariel Liang: (11:50) These are the reports submitted by ATLAS II WG Chairs: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/KIbrBQ
Ariel Liang: (11:51) Implementation details of the ATLAS II Declaration: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/KIbrBQ
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (11:52) I'll look into that soon.
Glenn McKnight: (11:53) Need to join another call, bye
Judith Hellerstein: (11:54) Bye all Have to go to another call
Ariel Liang: (11:55) ICANN 51 Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/yzXvBQ
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:56) High Interest Topics are likely to be the usual suspects
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:56) IANA / Accountability // WHOIS
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (11:56) so I believe our whole community would be interested in them
Heidi Ullrich: (12:01) Thanks, Gisella!!
Gisella Gruber: (12:01) All Social Events will be listed as well - give me another 24 hours. NOTHING is set in stone so please wait for Staff to confirm timings to you all
Ariel Liang: (12:02) ICANN 51 Question Workspaces can be found here: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/oe-vBQ
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (12:03) HUBS link - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99548824/At-Large+Remote+Hub+for+ICANN+51+Workspace
Ron Sherwood: (12:03) II have not been able to download the pages that were posted in the Adobe room This link seems to be a different document https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/KIbrBQ. I did not hear a Jont Meeting item in the Agenda
Leon Sanchez: (12:04) Any news on the Travel Summary for the LA meeting?
Gisella Gruber: (12:04) @ Ron - I will work on joint ccNSO meeting! Apologies - forgot that!
Ariel Liang: (12:04) If interested in applying to become a remote hub, please fill out the application form by 12 Sep 23:59 UTC: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3GPZ2SQ
Loris Taylor: (12:04) I apologize but I have to jump off the call. Thank you so much.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (12:06) Thanks Loris!
Ron Sherwood: (12:06) Thank you, Gisella
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (12:07) @Leon: no update so far
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (12:07) technical problem I heard
Leon Sanchez: (12:07) thanks @Olivier :-)
Heidi Ullrich: (12:09) Next WG update: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/atlarge/At-Large+Ad-hoc+WG+on+the+Transition+of+US+Government+Stewardship+of+the+IANA+Function
Siranush Vardanyan: (12:09) looking forward to the leadership training in LA
Gisella Gruber: (12:10) Mohamed NOT on the call
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:15) Olivier your voice just faded out.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:15) yes, I'll be there.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:16) Evan go ahead
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:18) E@van +1.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:18) oops, @Evan +1.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (12:18) Accountability: https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/assets/process-infographic-14aug14-en.pdf
Heidi Ullrich: (12:19) At-Large 2014 IGF Workspace (2-5 September) - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99548761/At-Large+Activities+at+the+IGF+in+Istanbul+-+2-5+September+2014
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:25) Goodbye all!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (12:27) yes it would be mice to final se this and advise NomCom as it was requested by 15 Aug
Jean-Jacques Subrenat: (12:27) @LACRALO: already in the past, I expressed discomfort on the fact that that is the only RALO to come up with this kind of problem. Can't we encourage them to come up with one candidate, rather than "preferences"?
Evan Leibovitch: (12:28) @Olivier. Difficult situation, you did the right thing.
Leon Sanchez: (12:28) Thanks everyone
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (12:28) thanks All
Maureen Hilyard: (12:28) Thanks Olivier and all
Siranush Vardanyan: (12:28) thanks all and bye
Eduardo Diaz: (12:28) Adios
sandra hoferichter: (12:28) bye all!
Raf Fatani: (12:28) cheers everyone
Ron Sherwood: (12:28) Goodbye all
Ariel Liang: (12:29) Thank you bye bye
Fatima Cambronero: (12:29) thanks everyone. Bye. See you in Istambul
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (12:29) bye
Allan Skuce: (12:30) Bye.