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Plan B Meeting #1 (8 October @ 21:00 UTC)

Plan B Meeting #1 (8 October @ 21:00 UTC)

Owned by Brenda Brewer
Last updated: Oct 09, 2015

Attendees: 

Sub-group Members:   Jonathan Zuck, Kavouss Arasteh, Steve DelBianco

Legal Counsel:  Edward McNicholas, Holly Gregory, Ingrid Mittermaier, Michael Clark, Rosemary Fei

Staff:  Grace Abuhamad, Brenda Brewer 

**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**

Transcript

Recording

Notes

Today's discussion revolves around the text here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/2015-October/006125.html 

Kavouss added an edit (underlined here):

1. Power to block a proposed Operating Plan/Strat Plan/Budget with  limitation on rejection/ Veto ( maximum 3 times )

2. Power to approve changes to Fundamental Bylaws and Articles of Incorporation.

3. Power to block changes to  standard Blaws.

4. Power to appoint and remove individual board Directors  possibly with the approval of the entire community 

5. Power to recall the entire board of Directors

6. Mechanism for binding IRP where a panel decision is enforceable in any court recognizing international arbitration results — even if ICCANNs Board refused to participate in the binding arbitration.  (assuming  CCWG lawyers verify this works without activating a Membership model)

All decision taken on the above would require consensus , without more than two Advice against that ( non-voting of ACs)  

I think we are close enough to get consensus around the above powers before we leave Dublin.   And based on what we’ve heard recently, the board will support the powers described above.

Action for Steve/Jonathan: revise chart per call discussions (MEM / Single Designator / Single Member) and send to lawyers before they can proceed with their work. 

Actions for lawyers: 

  • Assess level of effort to do 2-part project as follows:
  • Part 1: completing the chart shown in AC. The chart shows the 6 Powers and their enforcement in Board's MEM (within Bylaws), Designator, Sole Member. For first pass, only do each of the  3 as described. (If there is extra time, the lawyers can study options for personhood for SO/ACs in the models).  
  • Part 2: Plan B design and lockdown

Lawyers would like for this to be a priority if this needs to be ready by Dublin. 

The more the documents can look simpler, the better. Minimal change is preferred. 

Documents Presented

Today's discussion revolves around the text here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/2015-October/006125.html 

Chat Transcript

  Brenda Brewer: (10/8/2015 15:36) Hello and welcome to the Briefing with Counsel for Plan B Proposal Meeting on 8th October at 21:00 UTC.

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:03) Hi Plab B colleagues

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:03) Jonathan

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:04) I hear that people congradulating you

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:04) What is the subject

  Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (16:04) https://www.dropbox.com/s/8q9eke2b5ck90n4/Married.jpg?dl=0

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:05) Oh good

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:05) Congradulation from my part too

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:08) Steve

  Rosemary Fei (Adler & Colvin): (16:08) Congratulations, Jonathan!  Fabulous photo, too.

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:08) Kavouss -- please remember to mute your line when no speaking

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:08) But I have also contributed to that making it colser to the reality

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:09) Yes Grace

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:09) Thank you :)

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:09) Steve

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:09) All decision taken on the above would require consensus , without more than two Advice against that ( non-voting of ACs) 

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:09) Pls kindly confirm that I have also taken into account my comments made and sent to you two days ago

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:10) Tks Steve

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:12) Steve, How these 5 powers including CWG requirement will be enforced within the Plan B

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:14) sTEVE

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:15) Pls kindly reply to my question and also your proposal for restructuring the So s and ACs

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:17) To unmute, press *6 on your phone Kavouss

  kavouss Arasteh: (16:19) Holly + 1

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:28) Exactly, Rosemary

  Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (16:28) Exactly

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:37) Agree, Jonathan

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:44) I like how you revised the Actions for Lawyers

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:44) but replace "current structure" with Board's MEM

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:44) ok

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:45) Grace -- arrange them left to right, as follows:  BOard's MEM / Single Designator / Single Member

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:45) ok

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:46) Right -- since that's what MEM assumed,

  Michael Clark (Sidley) 2: (16:47) Sorry, have to jump off.  I'll catch up with Holly later.

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:48) Columns are :  MEM / Single Designator / Single Member

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:48) agree everyone???

  Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (16:49) yes

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:49) Steve are you going to revise the chart? Or do you want that as a staff action?

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:49) I can do that

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:50) ok

  Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (16:50) @Grace, this chart is actually someone else's chart so we'll circle back with CDT

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:50) ok

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (16:54) Agree, Kavous

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:56) Great thank you :)

  Jonathan Zuck (IPC): (16:56) and they gave "cert." it's just a question of priortization

  Grace Abuhamad: (16:57) Well, they need to assess project as Chairs. Cost management work on their end