Legal SubTeam Meeting #3 (13 March)
Attendees:
Sub-Group Members: David McAuley, Edward Morris, Greg Shatan, Leon Sanchez, Philip Corwin, Par Brumark, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner
Staff: Adam Peake, Brenda Brewer, Grace Abuhamad
Apologies:
**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
Transcript
Transcript_CCWGLegal_13March.docx
Transcript_CCWGLegal_13March.pdf
Recordings
Recordings for this call are not available due to the sensitive material discussed during the meeting. Redacted transcripts, however, are provided above.
Proposed Agenda
Recap of our call with Firm 1
Concerns raised on the mailing list
Temperature on call with new firm next steps
Notes
Introductory comments - Firm 1 is highly qualified to perform and provide the necessary advice
Concerns noted regarding timelines for engaging with a firm.
The directive letter between Firm 1 and ICANN regarding the client relationship very encouraging, to primarily serve CCWG/CWG interests as the client,
Duty of loyalty answers were good.
Speaking with the other firm may have benefits of a second opinion
Shared concerns that answers from Firm 1 lawyer about membership was unusual. Why mutual benefit organizations were relevant to the conversation. Less strength in non-profit as would have liked.
Question: Would it be possible for Firm 1 to take advice from Firm 2 on non profit issues?
Question: Should the call be redacted and recoding stopped while discussing firms?
Suggestion to hold a further call l with Firm 2 next week, Monday 15 March preferably. ICANN will support speaking with further firms. Need to find out if they are still interested. They have received further briefing materials.
Agreement to produce a redacted portion of the transcript. The recording can also be edited to match the transcript
Note Firm 2's comment of their working with other firms, suggest asking how they typically do that.
Thinking for CWG concerns also need some expertise on Trusts.
Aim to have a call with Firm 2 on Monday.
Action: Staff to set up a doodle poll for times on Monday 15 March
Following call with Firm 2, will hold a de-brief call where we can make a decision on the firm. 2 hour slot. Would be very helpful to be able to inform the CCWG on the regular Tuesday call.
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Action Items
Action: Staff to set up a doodle poll for times on Monday 15 March
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
AC Chat:
Brenda Brewer: (3/12/2015 18:57) HI Leon and Edward!
Edward Morris: (18:57) Hi Brenda and Leon!
Pär Brumark (GAC): (18:59) Hi everyone!
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:00) Hello!
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:01) Do we have an agenda for this call?
David McAuley: (19:01) Hello all
Leon Sanchez: (19:01) Hi Robin!
Leon Sanchez: (19:01) We should but I just didn't send it. Sorry for that. Hectic days
Leon Sanchez: (19:01) but the proposed agenda could be the following:
David McAuley: (19:01) that's for sure Leon
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Leon Sanchez: (19:02) next steps
Leon Sanchez: (19:02) Does that sound like a plan?
Leon Sanchez: (19:02) any suggestions?¿
David McAuley: (19:02) sounds good to me
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:03) yes, it does. Thanks.
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David McAuley: (19:14) good point about pitching Greg
David McAuley: (19:14) Leon - just got cut off
David McAuley: (19:14) lost the line
Edward Morris: (19:14) Agree with everything being said.
Grace Abuhamad: (19:15) should we dial you David? or will you dial yourself?
David McAuley: (19:17) I meant cost-wise Sam
David McAuley: (19:18) Not approval-wise
David McAuley: (19:19) Hi Grace - just saw your note - I dropped the line and got back in
Grace Abuhamad: (19:20) :)
Adam Peake: (19:22) Law firm names can be removed from notes (firm 1 firm 2 etc)
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:22) how about portions?
Edward Morris: (19:23) Agree with Robin
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:23) okay - that would be fine. Thanks.
Samantha Eisner: (19:29) Brenda, they are available anytime other than 12:30-2:30 PDT
David McAuley: (19:29) agree w/Greg, thanks Sam
David McAuley: (19:30) and thanks Leon, Grace, Brenda
Samantha Eisner: (19:30) and available early or late in the day if needed
David McAuley: (19:30) and Adam
David McAuley: (19:32) good plan Leon -
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Pär Brumark (GAC): (19:32) Yes!
Greg Shatan: (19:32) The calls i participated in for CWG worked well at 90 minutes. 60 felt a little rushed.
Brenda Brewer: (19:33) I will send Doodle tonight.
Samantha Eisner: (19:33) On CWG, we went straight to a debrief after, if that would be acceptable to this group
David McAuley: (19:33) Sam nailed it with 60 to 90 min
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:33) yes that makes sense
Greg Shatan: (19:34) Noboy minds knocking off a 90 minute call 10 minutes early
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David McAuley: (19:34) no - not from me
Robin Gross [GNSO - NCSG]: (19:35) thanks, bye!
David McAuley: (19:35) great - than you Leon and team
Edward Morris: (19:35) Thanks Leon
Greg Shatan: (19:36) I think Robin is a great first choice, if she's not available I can jump in.
Samantha Eisner: (19:36) thanks all
Pär Brumark (GAC): (19:36) Thx all!
Greg Shatan: (19:36) Bye, all.
Leon Sanchez: (19:36) bye all!
Leon Sanchez: (19:36) thanks!
Leon Sanchez: (19:36) good call!