AC Chat: 2016.09.12 NARALO Teleconference

  Terri Agnew:Welcome to the NARALO Teleconference held on Monday, 12 September 2016 at 19:00 UTC

  Terri Agnew:agenda wik page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/iRmSBg

  Glenn McKnight:Hi Terri

  Glenn McKnight:https://goo.gl/forms/BGzBk4Jfoppmz26J2

  Glenn McKnight:hi  Evan

  John Laprise:Good afternoon all

  John Laprise:I hear Glenn but you sound distant from the mike

  Glenn McKnight:Hi Alfredo

  Alfredo Calderon:Hello to all!

  Glenn McKnight:Hi McTim  are you in place of  Nick Thorne

  Louis Houle:Hello

  Alfredo Calderon:@Glenn, I can hear you clearly.

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Hello to all from the new ALAC guy NorthAM.  I hear clearly.

  Alfredo Calderon:@Glenn, and Loud.

  Eduardo Diaz:¡Hola a todos!

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Hola!

  Evan L:Iḿ hyearing you find Glenn, but there's echo in your room so it sounds like you're at the other end of a tunnel...

  Glenn McKnight:sorry folks i am in a conference room at  PIR in Reston

  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all

  Glenn McKnight:I was told my mic  on my adobe via  computer wasn't good

  Louis Houle:Hola Eduardo QUe tal

  Evan L:Tel PIR their room has crappy accoustics.

  Silvia Vivanco:Welcome we will start shortly

  Eve Edelson:Hello all

  Evan L:Judith is at the end of a longer tunnel

  Alfredo Calderon:Yes

  Eve Edelson:I hear you Judtth :)

  Eduardo Diaz:yes

  Gordon Chillcott:I can hear Judith

  Glenn McKnight:go ahead  judith

  William Michael Cunningham:OK

  Javier Rua-Jovet:A-OK

  wes:Wes Boudville here [1st time]

  Alfredo Calderon:Someone has mic on.

  Glenn McKnight:I don't understand why the audio  is  bad on my end  I am yelling into the  audio

  Evan L:Hey there Seth.

  Glenn McKnight:Hi  Wes and William  welcome

  Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Wes and William!

  Glenn McKnight:@judith  McTim  will be speaking instead of Nick Thorne

  Glenn McKnight:Go ahead to Judith

  Terri Agnew:Action items 08 August 2016 call: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/aRmSBg

  Eve Edelson:just barely

  Glenn McKnight: yes  silvia  I can hear you

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Allan Skuce

  Allan Skuce:Thanks

  Glenn McKnight:@Action item  on CROPP followup is later in the agenda

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Jolly MacFie

  Glenn McKnight:@Javier  Rua -Jovet  please  let us know who your are?

  Glenn McKnight:Hi Loris 

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Loris Taylor

  Loris Taylor:Hello everyone!

  Glenn McKnight:Hi Eve

  Eve Edelson:not yet, we're  working on something, hope to have something to say soon

  Eve Edelson:Hi Glenn

  Glenn McKnight:Valerie Fast Horse and April Tinhorn

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Sure. Hi to all.  I was elected by NomCom to ALAC for North America. I start on the last day of Hyderabad. I live in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

  Terri Agnew:At-Large Tribal Ambassadorship Workspace see: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/cxmSBg

  Glenn McKnight:Thanks to  Ed and  Loris in helping to select  the two  Tribal Ambassadors

  Glenn McKnight:Welcome  Javier   Can you please provide a LINKED in to share

  Glenn McKnight:Hi  Tom

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Tom Lowenhaupt

  John Laprise::)

  Javier Rua-Jovet:https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/nomcom-bios-2016-08-29-en

  Glenn McKnight:BCEC 2017 Eduardo Diaz and Louis Houle with Murray McKercher as the Alternate and for the BMSPC 2017 Glenn McKnight and John Laprise with Gordon Chilcott as the alternate

  Heidi Ullrich:I will need to check

  Glenn McKnight:Thanks   Javier 

  Alan Greenberg:Concensus Call ongoing to confirm BCEC and BMSPC membership

  Joly MacFie:Conrats on high quality tribal ambassadors.

  Joly MacFie:congrats

  John Laprise:+1

  Glenn McKnight:Joly has a comment

  Glenn McKnight:Voice  is low

  Eve Edelson:We are working toward something but will have to wait to see if we get results

  Glenn McKnight:Joly speak up

  Alfredo Calderon:@Joly, louder please!

  Glenn McKnight:yes

  Alfredo Calderon:San Juan, PR will be  a visualizing node.

  Eduardo Diaz:Joly: I believe the intercommunity is Sept 21

  Glenn McKnight:Ottawa will be a location but  no details yet.  It suppose to be at  CIRA in Ottawa

  Evan L:now connected by voice via Adigo. AC is still rashing on me. Iĺl stay here for the document display and hand raising

  Glenn McKnight:Joly old hand?

  Eduardo Diaz:intercommunity link: https://connect.internetsociety.org/events/event-description?CalendarEventKey=77ab169d-fcc2-4f35-b0ad-bc8de5aca3ef

  Glenn McKnight:4.0  At Large Review- McTim  on call providing  update on the ALAC  review

  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Review Working Party - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ALRW/pages/96929256/At-Large+Review+Working+Party

  William Michael Cunningham:Please post survey information on the questions and the firm conducting the work.

  Glenn McKnight:@McTim  i am a meeting with Tom MacKenzie in Reston,  providng feedback

  Joly MacFie:https://livestream.com/internetsociety/dnsforum

  Heidi Ullrich:Workspace for the 2015-2019 At-Large Review: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ALRW/pages/96929248/At-Large+Review+2015+-+2019+Current

  Eve Edelson:understood, looking forward to survey & we understand the importance

  Heidi Ullrich:This review is focusing on ALSes and RALOs.

  Glenn McKnight:Question  to McTim

  Glenn McKnight:WIll the unaffiliated get the survey too?

  McTim:Hi Wiliam, as per heidi's link there is an At-Large Review Working Party who we have been working with closely.  they have vetted the questions and provided feedback on them

  Glenn McKnight:click on green tick

  Glenn McKnight:AGREE

  Alfredo Calderon:@McTim, will the survey be sent to leader/president.

  McTim:yes, everyone can take survey, there is a sectionfor unaffiliated

  Ariel Liang:Please note the there is an At-Large facebook page being actively maintained: https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge/

  Louis Houle:My answer is yes for Facebook

  Le-Marie Thompson:yes, My hads are raised for the Facebook page

  Loris Taylor:Agree for a NARALO Facebook

  McTim:Survey will be sent far and wide, results will be fed to Board via Review Working Party

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Steve Anderson

  Glenn McKnight:Hi  Steve

  Loris Taylor:A page where NARALO members can post their activities in support of ICANN's mission etc. but should be administratively approved before posting

  McTim:AWilliam, the firm is www.items.fr

  Glenn McKnight:Good idea Loris

  Steve anderson:Hi there - was on the phone but this system seems a lot better for these calls

  Evan L:question to both Alan and McTim:  Given the existence of the At-Large Review, which may come up with recommendations regarding structure and governance, why is ALAC engaging in modifying its rules of procedure when these changes may be subsequently recommended to be changed by the Review?

  William Michael Cunningham:Facebook should be used to support the mission of NARALO. Support may be very time consuming.

  Evan L:+1 @William.

  William Michael Cunningham:It should not be used to claim you are doing outreach when you actually are not.

  Evan L:To be specific, it's passive outreach which required that people come to it.

  Tom Lowenhaupt:30 attendees. Nice turnout.

  McTim:@Evan, that query is out of scope for me ;-/

  Glenn McKnight:@tom   yes it's  pretty impressive  turnout

  Evan L:My part of question for MTim: is review of ALAC rules of procedure in sope of the review?

  Joly MacFie:https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge

  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large FB - https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge

  Glenn McKnight:@All   this has come up due to the  revisions to the  NARALO new  brochure template that  emphasize  FACEBOOK,  TWITTER  Etc

  Glenn McKnight:its  the new  brochure  template

  Alfredo Calderon:My concern is the administration. We at ISOCPR have one that is maintained by various ADMIN. https://www.facebook.com/isocpr/

  Glenn McKnight:why not add  both

  Alfredo Calderon:ISOCPR actually has a "fan page" and a "group page".

  Louis Houle:@Glenn +1

  Glenn McKnight:@judith time on this is a bit long.  lets move on

  McTim:Evan, yes, there is nothing that is truly out of scope AFAIK, but it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on procedures until we run our survey and finish our work

  Glenn McKnight:We don't need to make a decision today

  Glenn McKnight:@judith  we  need to move onward on this discussion  to the next item

  Louis Houle:The new leads are on Facebook, no?

  Allan Skuce:That makes sense.

  Eve Edelson:good point

  William Michael Cunningham:It's just a different medium, that reaches a different audience. NARALO should have a presence across all social media platforms.

  Glenn McKnight:old  brochure  had   info@naralo.org

  Evan L:At-Large needs a presence. I have not yet heard a compelling case for separate presence of RALOs.

  Louis Houle:@ William: +1

  Glenn McKnight:It was suggested we use   chair@naralo.org  and  secretariat@naralo.org

  Alan Greenberg:Have we just changed the subject???

  judith hellerstein:no same topic communications

  Joly MacFie:I think role based email addresses for chair and secretary is not a bad idea.

  Le-Marie Thompson:Do we go where the audience is or expect the audience to come to running?  I"m for a presence across all platforms, if the goal is to have a presence across audiences.

  Joly MacFie:That's a bunch of technical tosh, andbody can make an alias

  Tom Lowenhaupt:Coughing person - please mute.

  Glenn McKnight:@judith  please  acknowlege our  new  Nomcom appointee  rep  Javier Rua Jovet  from PR as our  new  ALAC rep

  Louis Houle:@Joly: +1

  Glenn McKnight:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/NARALO/pages/110238211/NARALO+Flyer+2016

  Glenn McKnight:We will be doing revisions 

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Hi!

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Yubelkys Montalvo

  Ariel Liang:Please note the At-Large Twitter handle: https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge. It promotes NARALO events and content, and the follower base is more than 3,600 (with 100+ follower growth / month)

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Twitter would be great if you have somebody in charge of tweeting.

  Steve anderson:is it possible for NARALO to express an opinion on government consultations that impact users?  such as this one in Canada that is quite alarming: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cnslttns/ntnl-scrt/thm09-en.aspx

  Steve anderson:maybe through these social media accounts under consideration?

  Ariel Liang:@Javier: At-Large Staff, in coordination with Social Media WG of At-Large, actively maintain the At-Large Twitter handle

  Javier Rua-Jovet:But could be redundant with the At-large twitter...

  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large has a Twitter account: https://twitter.com/icannatlarge

  Yubelkys:Thank you!

  Evan L:Iǘe said my bit. I am generally opposed to projects that will require human resources without first knowing where that HR is coming from.

  Yubelkys:Sorry I am late

  Heidi Ullrich:We are happy to tweet re NARALO activities.

  Evan L:Too much opportunity to have orphaned projects

  Silvia Vivanco:the At-Large social media accounts are very well known and constantly updated

  Silvia Vivanco:please send us your news and tweets we will post them

  Heidi Ullrich:Again, not sure how regionalization of SM activities will strengthen global end user interests.

  Eve Edelson:acronyms, boy howdy

  Alfredo Calderon:NARALO can have a Twitter account and with hashtag, At-large can pick it up and retweeet.

  Evan L:And who will manage that?

  Eve Edelson:Welcome!

  Silvia Vivanco:Warm welcome to all new unaffiliated members!

  Evan L:"NARALO" can have an account but a warm body actually has to maintain it

  Heidi Ullrich:There are currently no active RALO Twitter accounts. The At-Large Social Media WG develops At-Large SM strategy and activities

  judith hellerstein:@evan new hand or old hand

  Terri Agnew:NARALO Newsletter: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/MheSBg

  Alan Greenberg:Do we have a volunteer to replace Eduardo when his commitment to do the Newsletter ends?

  Terri Agnew:NARALO General Assembly 2017: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/LxiSBg

  judith hellerstein:Excellent question

  Eduardo Diaz:@Alan: Great question!

  William Michael Cunningham:Tallk about attending.

  Terri Agnew:NARALO CROPP: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/Wl32Bg

  Terri Agnew:RALO CROPP Outreach Efforts google doc: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfzJUS8V2rqRjrPbr-cSpDySBnCEw01h9ztQu2vO-lYfuLnXA/viewform?c=0&w=1

  Heidi Ullrich:Javier's bio: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/nomcom-bios-2016-08-29-en#javier-rua-jovet

  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Javier!

  Louis Houle:Thanks Terri: I just filed the form an hour ago!

  Terri Agnew:ISOC North Carolina: http://www.isoc-rtp.org/

  John Laprise:OK. Thanks! :)

  Javier Rua-Jovet:Hi Heidi!

  Louis Houle:WelcomJavier! Entonces, una otra opportunidad de hablar en Espagnol!

  McTim:great to hear of this NC chapter work!

  Heidi Ullrich:Outstanding! Welcome. Excellent work.

  Lynden Price:=)

  Le-Marie Thompson:Lots of great work NC! Welcome!

  judith hellerstein:Javier you are next

  Terri Agnew:@Javier, we are unable to hear you, please check your mute

  Ariel Liang:@Judith - javier is online but he has problem with audio

  Terri Agnew:Policy Advise Page on New At-Large Website: https://atlarge.icann.org/policy-summary

  Terri Agnew:Policy Advise Development Page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAeBg

  Terri Agnew:ICANN Public comment page: https://www.icann.org/public-comments

  John Laprise:Point of order: As many of you know Congress in the uSA is in session and there is some movement there against the IANA transition. If you support it, I suggest you speak out on Social media or in the USA to your elected officials.

  Terri Agnew:Javier is now on the telephone

  judith hellerstein:great. we will go to him next

  Eduardo Diaz:@john: any links to follow?

  Ariel Liang:Ariel Liang: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/g2AeBg - At-Large policy issues

  John Laprise:#ICANN if you're on twitter

  Ariel Liang:Ariel Liang: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/y18eBg - Consumer Agenda proposal

  William Michael Cunningham:We should not assume veryone supports.

  John Laprise:The thread isn't trending

  William Michael Cunningham:What is the option to raise questions about the IANA name transition?

  Yubelkys:Welcome!

  John Laprise:https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2793

  Joly MacFie:IANA?

  McTim:Nick has asked me to stress that this review is your chance to speak anonymously/privately about RALOs/ALSes/At-large.  If there are issues not included in the survey, he will welcome your emails at nick.thorne@domzac.org, while I can be reached via mctimconsulting@gmail.com

  McTim:I am afraid I must drop off early however.

  John Laprise:Committee mtg in the 14th

  William Michael Cunningham:Cruz not helpful Serious and ratonal options, please.

  Silvia Vivanco:Thanks Mc Tim

  Joly MacFie:there is a civil society letter. ISOC-NY will sign.

  Heidi Ullrich:@Joly, can other ALSes sign it?

  Heidi Ullrich:or NARALO as a whole?

  Eve Edelson:just, should I assume there will be a transcript of this call, as I can't seem to copy anything for my notes which I relay to chapter

  Joly MacFie:there is a civil society letter. ISOC-NY will sign.'

  John Laprise:Cruz link posted because he was announcing the committee meeting.

  Eve Edelson:thx

  Silvia Vivanco:@ Eve yes there will be a recording and transcript

  Le-Marie Thompson:Is there a form letter to congress?

  Eve Edelson:I figured, just checking bcos Adobe Connect is behaving oddly just now

  Joly MacFie:I'll forward that letter to the na-discuss list.

  Eduardo Diaz:I think is the newsletter is an excelent tool for outreach also

  Le-Marie Thompson:@Eduardo happy to chate with you ofline about the newlestter

  John Laprise:ICANN FAQ https://www.icann.org/iana-stewardship-questions

  Eve Edelson:can't copy chat & typing is wonky - not like this usually

  William Michael Cunningham:I meant NARALO specific

  Eduardo Diaz:@Le-MArie - Thanks. I will contact you later this week

  Yubelkys:Eduardo, let me know if I can help also, although maybe not in a regular basis

  Joly MacFie:Congress IANA hearing is weds

  John Laprise:this week

  John Laprise:wess

  John Laprise:weds

  Yubelkys:due to my full timejob

  Terri Agnew:finding the line

  William Michael Cunningham:Please post a link to the hearing.

  Glenn McKnight:Lost  connection at the PIR  offices

  John Laprise:There's a lot of FUD to fight.

  Terri Agnew:Welcome back Glenn

  Eduardo Diaz:@Yubelkis - Gracias

  Glenn McKnight:Wow, lost  computer connection, audio problems  etc etc

  Glenn McKnight:Crazy

  Allan Skuce:Bye,Thanks

  Glenn McKnight:thanks  Judith and  all

  Glenn McKnight:Bye  all

  Louis Houle:Thanks everyone

  Eve Edelson:I hope to attend GA & apply for travel

  Glenn McKnight:Only  27 ALS currently

  Glenn McKnight:We  are making sure  the  ALS are active to attend

  Loris Taylor:Bye everyone.  I have a call at 1pm. 

  Glenn McKnight:Inactive as to voting and  attendance

  Glenn McKnight:We are engaging those less active

  Yubelkys:Nice

  Yubelkys:Count on me

  Glenn McKnight:Only  NCAP  is  in the process of  decertification since it's closed and  Darelene sent her statement of withdrawal

  Evan L:Hi all. Sorry I have a hard stop at the top of the hour

  Glenn McKnight:Thanks  Evan

  Yubelkys:Thank you!

  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all !

  Glenn McKnight:Yes

  Tom Lowenhaupt:bye

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks

  Yubelkys:Bye everyone!

  Alfredo Calderon:Bye to all!

  Glenn McKnight:bye all

  Gordon Chillcott:Bye for now.

  John Laprise:bye all

  Eve Edelson:bye all

  Le-Marie Thompson:Have a great week!

  Javier Rua-Jovet:See you in India!