IOT Meeting #103 | 4 April 2023
- Brenda Brewer
Members: David McAuley, Kavouss Arasteh, Kristina Rosette, Malcolm Hutty, Mike Rodenbaugh, Susan Payne
Guests/Observers: Liz Le
ICANN Org: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer
Apologies: Flip Petillion
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to mssi-secretariat@icann.org **
Agenda:
- Review agenda and updates to SOIs
- Review Action items:
- SP to circulate a clean version of the draft agreement on Initiation. All to review and raise any final feedback by 17 March
- Discussion and identification of any final outstanding items requiring to be addressed on the draft rules
- Next Call 18 April 1800 UTC tbc
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14:04:06 From Brenda Brewer - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Works for me
14:04:22 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I will probably not be able to attend April 18th - that is how things look at present
14:08:30 From Mike Rodenbaugh to Everyone:
I also cannot attend the 18th
14:15:13 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I support Susan's proposal on consolidation rule
14:15:16 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
I'm back in (to consolidation small team).
14:19:22 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I agree that this needs attention and an explict handling of some sort
14:21:21 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
OK for leaving it near end
14:22:07 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
Agree on both counts - needs handling and with your proposed way forward to handle
14:22:29 From Liz Le - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Apologies for joining late.
14:23:36 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
hi Liz, glad you could join
14:24:46 From Liz Le - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Reacted to "hi Liz, glad you cou..." with
14:25:24 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
(n)(iv) The Rules of Procedure are intended to ensure fundamental fairness and due process and shall at a minimum address the following elements: (F) Procedures if ICANN elects not to respond to an IRP
14:27:28 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I foresee some discussions around the meaning of 'address'
14:28:20 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
fair point, Susan
14:30:56 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
Can Liz shed any light on this hypothetical?
14:38:55 From Mike Rodenbaugh to Everyone:
I cannot imagine why any complainant would ever want a “non-binding” IRP, especially since the IRP is really non-binding anyway insofar as ICANN says it cannot be ordered to do anything…
14:40:03 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
Anyone who wants to file a non-binding IRP can just give me the $ they'd spend on legal fees. JK.
14:40:23 From Susan Payne to Everyone:
Reacted to "Anyone who wants to ..." with
14:41:41 From Mike Rodenbaugh to Everyone:
This seems about as likely as ICANN not responding to an IRP
14:41:59 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
it could be, Mike
14:42:59 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
Well, now that I think about it, I can imagine a scenario (maybe) where ICANN doesn't respond to an IRP. As well as a scenario in which a party files a non-binding IRP.
14:43:41 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I like Mike's idea - IRPs are not for advisory opinions
14:44:04 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
at least as I view it
14:44:08 From Mike Rodenbaugh to Everyone:
agreed
14:44:32 From Bernard Turcotte to Everyone:
will do
14:44:40 From Bernard Turcotte to Everyone:
I don't remember
14:44:55 From Bernard Turcotte to Everyone:
the specifics of this one
14:51:19 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I do have one suggested addition to current draft of art 3 - I think it will be non-controversial
15:08:30 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
I would imagine that any IRP relating a TLD that contains or consists of a term that could be a geographic name, indication of origin, or appellation could definitely implicate geographic diversity considerations.
15:10:33 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I have an AOB question when we reach that moment
15:11:08 From Mike Rodenbaugh to Everyone:
I’ve got to sign off now. Talk to you all later.
15:11:20 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
regrets - I am away next two weeks and cannot volunteer
15:12:40 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
Susan - happy to help. LMK.
15:15:42 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I think we want support - open or not but no audience questions
15:16:09 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
I think we want to max our work time is why no questions from non-members
15:16:44 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
fair point by Bernie, closed is good if we get support including remote participation.
15:16:52 From Kristina Rosette to Everyone:
Sure. I vote for open, working (but made clear that we're not taking input, comments, etc.) This topic in particular doesn't need the negative adverse inference from a closed meeting, IMO.
15:21:09 From Brenda Brewer - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Open Working Session— Got it. We will define over email in the next week.
15:21:20 From David McAuley (Verisign) to Everyone:
Thank you, Susan - this will also set the table for future meetings like it
15:23:14 From Bernard Turcotte to Everyone:
bye all