CCWG IG Weekly Teleconference - 2014.5.16 - Adobe chat

Bart Boswinkel:Hi All

  Hago Dafalla:hi all

  Rudi Vansnick:is there an audio connect bridge ?

  Rudi Vansnick:or should we dial in ?

  Jordan Carter:hi all

  Renate De Wulf:we are checking this

  Jordan Carter:Adigo working fine, I think

  Bart Boswinkel:Better dial in to get it started

  Bart Boswinkel:Okay

  Rudi Vansnick:it is a bit hecktic here as we are one week away from the elections

  Rudi Vansnick:national, regional and european elections

  Jordan Carter:I make an apology - I am a victim of false advertising as to when the restaurant closes for dinner here - I must leave at 0920. I have no substantive issues to raise tho and generally agree with Greg S's comments. So apologies for leaving in about fifteen minutes

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok thx Jordan!

  Bill Drake:a week or two?

  Renate De Wulf:Hi Bill, hopefully soon - the deadline for requesting meetings was this morning

  Bill Drake:merci....bit hard to make plans as always

  Bill Drake:sorry the link to the clean copy again was...?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:latest version with notes is on: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/110789103/Draft%20charter%20ccWG%20IG%202014%20v4%20with%20comments.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1400225665662&api=v2

  Bill Drake:thanks

  Bill Drake:not realy

  Rudi Vansnick:it is probably related to the wordings

  Rudi Vansnick:+1 Jordan

  Bill Drake:I'd think that's entailed

  Jordan Carter:"Reflect back to the ICANN community discussions about ICANN or ICANN matters that arise in other Internet Governance discussions."

  Bill Drake:"reflect back"?

  Jordan Carter:"Share with...."

  Bill Drake:Convey

  Jordan Carter:Convey to the ICANN community..

  Jordan Carter:something along those lines

  Bill Drake:whatever...'reflect' seems abstract

  Jordan Carter:+1

  Jordan Carter:I've emailed this text to Bart and Olivier: "Convey to the ICANN community discussions about ICANN or ICANN matters that arise in other Internet Governance discussions and processes."

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Jordan

  Jordan Carter:On this second comment from Greg - the WG is already so big that I don't see any difference being made in adding one more rep per SO/AC

  Jordan Carter:so happy to agree with that

  Hago Dafalla:I agree with that

  Jordan Carter:and now my humble apologies, I have to go away

  Jordan Carter:regrets and apologies

  Bart Boswinkel:Bye Jordan

  Jordan Carter:ciao and good luck

  Bill Drake:it's fine

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:well --- at the moment the WG is SO/AC/SG but it will reduce in size to SO/AC

  Bill Drake:GNSO is such a complicated problem next to other SO ACs

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:at least "full members". Observers will stay on

  Bill Drake: Comment Gregory: "Experts would be appointed to provide guidance to the WG on matters within their areas of expertise, where such expertise is not otherwise available among the Members and Observers of the WG."   This seems unduly restrictive to me.

  Bill Drake:you might ask someone just to provide a viewpoint, why say the expertise cannot be on the WG already

  Rudi Vansnick:i follow Bill

  Bill Drake:many people will claim to have the expertise...

  Rudi Vansnick:it seems to me unreallistic to state we will have all expertise on board

  Rudi Vansnick:waw

  Hago Dafalla:who is selected the expeties

  Hago Dafalla:and from where can choose?

  David Fares:Agree w/ Rudi

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Hago: the WG can appoint experts if needed. Probably a consensus decision then

  Hago Dafalla:ok

  Rudi Vansnick:i agree with Bart

  Bill Drake:sigh

  Rudi Vansnick:i would leave the text as is

  David Fares:Apologies, I need to drop-off.  Thanks.

  Bill Drake:it is FINE

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks for attending David

  Bill Drake:oui

  Rudi Vansnick:correct

  Bill Drake:OCL hard to hear you

  Bill Drake:maybe just me but Bart is about 4 x louder than OCL

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry it's probably my line

  Bill Drake:sorry I'm multitasking and sort of useless

  Rudi Vansnick:none from my side

  Hago Dafalla:no comment

  Bill Drake:member is fine

  Rudi Vansnick:keep Members please

  Bill Drake:in reality the observers would be part of the conversation in some manner anyway

  Rudi Vansnick:correct

  Bill Drake:if she thinks this useful I don't mind

  Bill Drake:appeals to charter geeks

  Rudi Vansnick:ok for me

  Hago Dafalla:I agree with

  Rudi Vansnick:good proposal Olivier

  Bill Drake:"force to continue"?

  Hago Dafalla:good comment for me

  Bill Drake:is this like a death march? are we building the Burmese railroad?

  Hago Dafalla:i general very good proposal

  Hago Dafalla:in general very good proposal

  Rudi Vansnick:+1

  Bill Drake:yes indeed thanks Bart

  Rudi Vansnick:and his knowledge and experience in this work !

  Rudi Vansnick:thsi should be the final version before acceptance

  Rudi Vansnick:i think we wait tilll support

  Bill Drake:wait

  Hago Dafalla:yes wait

  Rudi Vansnick:if there is a problem to get support we convene another call

  Rudi Vansnick:if there is a problem to get support we convene another call

  Rudi Vansnick:no do not tell that ! ;-)

  Rudi Vansnick:thanks to all

  Hago Dafalla:thank you  for your effort

  Bill Drake:nope mercy bowcups

  Rudi Vansnick:great work

  Hago Dafalla:bye

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks all!