CCWG IG Weekly Teleconference - 2014.4.9 - Adobe chat

Keith Drazek (RySG):Hello!

  Petya Minkova:good evening from Brussels!

  Leon Sanchez:I finally made it.

  Kristina Rosette:greetings.  have to be on mute for a few minutes

  Keith Drazek (RySG):FYI Ken Stubbs from the RySG submitted his regrets as well.

  Bart Boswinkel:Bart from staff is here as well

  Alexandra Dans:This is the summary prepared by the rapporteurs: Leon Sanchez and Marilia Maciel: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DBdoLBE7-EUeb-uHT3FqCy9OFMw8SHSiQ-0t7UKQiOY/edit

  Hago Dafalla 2:hi all please call me my phone number is:+249922382627

  Greg Shatan:I am in AC, but not on phone. (yet).

  Alexandra Dans:You can also access the audio of the session here: http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-ccwg-ig

  Marilia Maciel:Hello, sorry for being late.

  Hago Dafalla 2:please call me my phone is:+249922382626

  Alexandra Dans:Link to the public comment: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ccwg-ig-netmundial-08apr14-en.htm

  Hago Dafalla 2:my phone is:+249922382627

  Petya Minkova:@Hago Adigo is calling

  Kiran Malancharuvil:Apologies for being late.  

  Petya Minkova:@Hago please confirm your number again!

  Hago Dafalla 2:+249922382627

  Young-eum Lee:Subject: [discuss] Wikileaks releases Penultimate NetMundial Outcome DocumentPDF link: http://goo.gl/z5bFXmhttps://wikileaks.org/netmundial-outcome/

  Marilia Maciel:The document is still open for comments of the HLC

  Marilia Maciel:High level Committee

  Marilia Maciel:So it is not 100% stable

  Marilia Maciel:Yes, supposed to be release on the 10

  Leon Sanchez:I agree with what OCL is saying. I wonder what is the point of NetMundial if the outcome is already there even if the meeting hasn't taken place yet?

  Marilia Maciel:Working on my mic

  Marilia Maciel:Yes,

  Greg Shatan:This is what I have heard about NETmundial process:

  Marilia Maciel:The document is a starting point

  Greg Shatan:• Organization of NetMundial has been a “hot potato” and things are still in flux• What “consensus” will mean at NetMundial is still undecided• The Morning Plenary will be primarily speeches – Tim Berners-Lee is the only known confirmed speaker• Draft outcome document will be coming shortly [this was before the Wikileak…]• Stakeholders can provide comments to the outcome document, but the relevance and standing of those comments is uncertain• However, the current position is that the outcome document will not be amended to reflect such comments• There will be limited opportunities to intervene from the floor• The organizers expect stakeholder groups to appoint speakers to talk on particular topics• Late-night drafting sessions should be expected

  Marilia Maciel:It can be changed

  Leon Sanchez:I hope they do take into account the input the different stakeholders submit

  Keith Drazek (RySG):@Leon, I had the same reaction to the terminology, but I take it to be the "Output" of the input submitted prior to the meeting. At least that's my hope! ;-)

  Leon Sanchez:@Keith I agree, I hope so too

  Marilia Maciel:Mic has a problem, sorry :)

  Keith Drazek (RySG):We're just enjoying your melodious voice Olivier!

  Keith Drazek (RySG):I'll be there and think a gathering of this group would be good.

  Alain Bidron:I may be there

  Oliver Sueme - ISPCP:I will be there, f2f would be good

  Kristina Rosette:Unless I receive new information soon, no IPC members will be attending.  Members of IPC members will be attending, but that's slightly different.

  Greg Shatan:I will not be in Sao Paolo.  :-(

  Kiran Malancharuvil:I will not be there

  Marilla Maciel:Yes, good idea

  Avri Doria:well we are not travelling there as an ICANN contingent, but coming from even wider PoV thant those inside ICANN

  Avri Doria:How many is ICANN funding to go?

  Kristina Rosette:I heard it was USD 1 million of travel support.

  Kristina Rosette:Rumor.  but heard from numerous sources

  Avri Doria:well some of it is support staff.

  Alexandra Dans:The best contact to receive information about financial assistance is Daniel Fink <daniel@netmundial.br>

  Avri Doria:alexandra, does that mean all of ICANN's support money went into the common pool and it isn't sending anyone other that Support Staff on its direct decison.

  Keith Drazek (RySG):Please mute phones if not speaking. Thanks

  Bart Boswinkel:No not yet

  Alexandra Dans:Avri, let me get the details and I'll share in the list.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/CPMMB/pages/110788858/Proposed+Charter+for+CWG+on+Internet+governance

  Bart Boswinkel:The core issue the WG needs to address is its scope

  Marilla Maciel:Do we have someone from the WG on building CCWGs with us?

  Marilla Maciel:building a roadmap for CCWGs, I mean

  Bart Boswinkel:@Marilla: I'm staff support

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the CCWG on CCWG is actually just starting its work now

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so we're really on our own for this at the moment

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:but Bart, Staff support, has extensive knowledge of building charters

  Bart Boswinkel:No not really, the charter of the ccWG Framework and other ccWG ( such as the DSSA) do prvide a basis for this WG

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and us willing to help

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and there have been past CCWGs created so some frameworks are good guidelines

  Marilla Maciel:Good. Could you point us to where we could find this useful info?

  Bart Boswinkel:As said the scope is the core, as Keith indicated in his comment

  Keith Drazek (RySG):Thanks David, that's helpful.

  Bart Boswinkel:@Marilla, You can look at the ccNSO website under working groups and look for FoI WG, ccWG Framework and use of country names

  Bart Boswinkel:and look at chaters

  Marilla Maciel:Thanks Bart

  Kiran Malancharuvil:I can volunteer to work with others as well

  Keith Drazek (RySG):So the Charter Drafting Team will be: Jordyn, Keith, Kiran, Bart. Anyone else?

  Young-eum Lee:I think Marilyn has also volunteered.

  Bart Boswinkel:@ Olivier: the group itself needs to focus on scope

  Kiran Malancharuvil:I think Greg had volunteered at one point and Marilyn

  Leon Sanchez:I have already volunteered. Although I have zero experience on drafting charters but willing to help and learn

  Bart Boswinkel: The structure will folow from that

  Keith Drazek (RySG):and Marilyn and Greg, correct.

  Greg Shatan:I did volunteer!

  Bart Boswinkel:The ccWG recently created do offer a structure

  Hago Dafalla 2:I can volunteer

  Keith Drazek (RySG):Regular review periods +1

  Bart Boswinkel:Possible natural point in time maybe the WSIS+10

  Hago Dafalla 2:please call me my line disconnect

  Marilla Maciel:2015

  Marilla Maciel:hahahahah

  Leon Sanchez:What Marillia is saying seems reasonable

  Hago Dafalla 2:please call me

  Bart Boswinkel:There is alos a limit in scope of some of the potentially participating SO and ACs

  Young-eum Lee:Agree with David

  Bart Boswinkel:Let me give you another example: WHOIS re ccTLD is out of scope of ICANN, as policy mandate. Discussing it one, providing recommendations / making a statement from ICANN community is another

  Aparna Sridhar:apologies - i have to drop for another meeting

  Aparna Sridhar:speak to you all soon and see some of you in sao paulo

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Aparna

  Leon Sanchez:I apologize for having to leave early

  Leon Sanchez:See you soon and safe travels to Sao Paulo for those of you who will attend NetMundial

  Marilla Maciel:Agreed. Please also clarify if we will have a debriefing meeting

  Marilla Maciel:During/after NM

  Keith Drazek (RySG):Apologies but I have to drop  at the top of the hour.  Perhaps we should schedule a conference call of Charter Drafting Team later this week?

  Kristina Rosette:I have to drop for another call. Apologies.

  Keith Drazek (RySG):I'll follow up on email.  Thanks, K

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thankt Keith -- good suggestion. We'll ask immediately after the call by emailing those people who have volunteered

  Marilyn Cade, BC /CSG Officer:I can do a call thursday, Friday, of this week.

  Marilyn Cade, BC /CSG Officer:Next week, I am in Geneva and will have limited times /but will do all I can to participate in the next CCWG call.

  Bart Boswinkel:Emaiil works as well

  Bart Boswinkel:Bye all

  Marilla Maciel:Bye! Thanks!