ALAC 2013.02.26 - AC Chat
- Julia Charvolen
- Aleksey Khapchenko
- Nathalie Peregrine
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ALAC Monthly call on Tuesday 26 Febraury 2013 at 1500 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/Be3uBQ
Natalia Enciso:Hi Gisella!
Gisella Gruber-White:Hi Natalia
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Gisella and Nathalie :)
Matt Ashtiani:Hello everyone!
Jean-Jacques.subrenat:Hi Gisella & Matt, could we try audio?
Gisella Gruber-White:Hi Jean-Jacques - I can't hear you
Tijani BEN JEMAA:j'entends bien Jean Jacques
Tijani BEN JEMAA:bonsoir tout le monde
Gisella Gruber-White:Bonjour
Yaovi Atohoun:Bonjour
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi everyone!
Yaovi Atohoun:bonjour
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi all
Holly Raiche:CLO is listed as both a partivipant an lliaiason - nice to have two personages
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Bonjour/Good Morning/Bula/Jumbo
Jean-Jacques.subrenat:Hello!
Oksana Prykhodko:Hi, everybody!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi JJ and Oksana!
Julie Hammer:Hi Everybody!
Silvia Vivanco:Hello everybody
Sandra Hoferichter:Hello all!
Evan Leibovitch:On time for once!
Eduardo Diaz:¡Hola a todos! - Connecting to the bridge...
Natalia Enciso:Hello!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Gisella Gruber-White:Hi Natalia - we are trying to call you!
Natalia Enciso:Thanks Gisella!
Natalia Enciso:I am on the spanish channel now. Thanks
Gisella Gruber-White:great thank you Natalia!
Sylvia Herlein:Hi Everybody!
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Olivier - I will do so
Evan Leibovitch:I think the summary of comments was about R3. Not sure that's done yet.
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All, apologies for the sight delay.
Heidi Ullrich:slight
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No worries Heidi
Alan Greenberg:Holly, can you please answer the private message I sent you?
Heidi Ullrich:@Alan, Holly or Heidi ;)
Sylvia Herlein:I can not stay in the conference, but I just wanted to tell you that I have sent my application to join the MSWG. And I would ask your support! Greetings to all from Brazil!
Alan Greenberg:The one in Australia. ;-)
Heidi Ullrich:Whois Briefing call: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99544165/At-Large+Whois+Briefing+call+20+February+2013
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Heidi
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:That's what I was thinking OCL
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Good resource to draw from
Evan Leibovitch:if we had more time a webinar on closed generics might be a good idea. It might STILL be a good idea even after we give advice to the PCP
Julie Hammer:I looked at this page yesterday to listen to the recording and couldn't find it. I'll have another look.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Evan, indeed
Evan Leibovitch:I just find that the issue is really complex and layered, it is of importance but there is a lot of misinformation out there
Yaovi Atohoun:+1 @Evan for the webinar
Julie Hammer:Just had another look and have seen the recording...thanks!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Action Item - Capacity Building will include webinars as resource material for At Large
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:as per Tijani's comments
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:None OCL
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Matt!
Holly Raiche 2:@Alan - can't find a private message - send an email please
Jordi Iparraguirre (isoc.cat):apologies for being late, just came from another meeting
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Jordi
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Happy to see the Application
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Eduardo Diaz:Binevenido Jordi y saludos desde Puerto Rico
Gisella Gruber-White:Ron Sherwood has joined the call
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Ron!
Jordi Iparraguirre (isoc.cat):igualmente Eduardo!
Holly Raiche 2:Hi Alan. I was hoping to. Yes, the time is a killer so I"ll see how I go
Gisella Gruber-White:Dick Kalkman has joined the call
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:IRTPD?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Inter Registrar Transfer Policy Part B
Sandra Hoferichter 2:I lost connectivity, but now I see I am in AC two times, but have only one window open.
Holly Raiche 2:Alan is right - the time is a killer (2.00am), but I"ll try to hang in
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Part D
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:3:25am for me Holly but this is now normal in ALAC world ;)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Alan for the comprehensive report
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Q. For the ccNSO Liaison - is the Capacity Building within the ccNSO now active and who chairs the ccNSO CBWG?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am just interested in finding out who the contact person is?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Cheryl, that's really helpful - will find out through the staff - had asked Keith last year but he said that it was closed and was'nt functional yet
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Cheryl and Thanks OCL
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Julie
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:We can hear you loud and clear
Natalia Enciso:Can you call me back, just dropped. Thanks
Heidi Ullrich:@Sala, I've asked Bart and Gabi of ccNSO staff. I will let you know their response.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Heidi, that's really very helpful
Heidi Ullrich:Calling you back, Natalia.
Natalia Enciso:Thanks Heidi.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Question for SSAC Liaison - What is the position of the SSAC following their Advice on the Whois in light of recent happenings in Whois such as the Thick Whois PDP
Sandra Hoferichter 2:@Heidi, Sala:please keep me posted as well, so far Eberhard Lisse was my contact person and Hong of course, but if there is anyone else would be good to know
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:[If it takes too much time to answer, we can discuss offline - Julie]
Heidi Ullrich:Will do, Sandra.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@Sandra - certainly
Heidi Ullrich:PD Page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Development+Page
Heidi Ullrich:Matt is now Policy Specialist :)
Matt Ashtiani::)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Congratulations Matt, Policy Specialist
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Matt Ashtiani:thanks, sala!
Natalia Enciso:back on the call, thanks
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Congratulations on the new appointments, OCL and Alan
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome back, Natalia
Oksana Prykhodko:Matt, my congratulations also)
Oksana Prykhodko:I did congratulate OCL and Alan before
Julie Hammer:Sala, as I mentioned, all the SSAC Advice that I am able to provide is that which is publicly published. SSAC comment on WhoIs is contained in SAC055 (http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Julie
Matt Ashtiani:thank you, oksana!
Natalia Enciso:Congrats Matt!
Evan Leibovitch:The metrics letter should also (as a courtesy) should also go to SO/AC chairs
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks OCL
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Evan
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Response to a Reply? Was that what you were referring to CLO?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:let staff work it out with us
Alan Greenberg:Who is "D"?
Yaovi Atohoun:I was about to type the same question
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Interesting topic OCL - it's ok to have diverse viewpoints on closed generics - thanks Evan for the research done in this area
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Is there an Option 3?
Alan Greenberg:Abstain
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Aside from "Abstain"
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so maybe Option 4
Alan Greenberg:What are you suggesting. These seem to be the two (polar opposite) positions.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:From the report, it appears that there are diametrically opposed perspectives. On matters of global public interest, taking one view may cause a level of marginalisation. I understand that the Board has framed the question in such a way that it forces Option "A" or Option "B" so I was wondering whether there is room for noting the other view
Heidi Ullrich:The ALAC Agenda has been slightly updated - specifically under AoB - please refresh your page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99544325/ALAC+Monthly+Teleconference+-+2013.02.26
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I suppose there's always "abstention"
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Please ignore my intervention
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:abstention is always possible, of course. As in all ALAC votes
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Imagine if all of ALAC abstains
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Evan Leibovitch:Funny, I see the nuanced position as a flavourt of "B" :-)
Evan Leibovitch:time for a new alphabet
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hurray! I was happy to see one of the 4 studies come out as they were supposed to come out last year
Yaovi Atohoun:Please who is D in the participants list?
D:Hi, this is me, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
D:my AC room crashed
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, mystery person! We were wondering! ;)
D:and when I reentered, I somehow got renamed to "D"
Alan Greenberg:Dev, you can fix your name. Plull down to right of "Attendees" title - edit my info.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No comments OCL
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Ah, thanks Alan!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:That's an Action Item?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:(and to those that sent private messages asking for identification, the "private" chat was disabled so I could not reply)
Alan Greenberg:How do you enable or disable private chat? I have found that to happen occasionally, but I thought it was a bug.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The hosts have the powers to enable or disable private chat.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@Alan you raise a legitimate point but on the matter of "Whois", I find that the 3 remaining GNSO studies that should precede policy discussions and the disregard for the counsel rendered by the SAC055. This is why I have been reserving my position until I see all 4 studies
Matt Ashtiani:i wasn't aware that you could disable private chat.
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:In principle, I agree with you though Alan
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Olivier, I have to leave at 16:30 sharp
Tijani BEN JEMAA:If I can make a small briefing on the Multi-Stakeholder IG events in Dubai and Addis
Yaovi Atohoun:+1 @Olivier
Heidi Ullrich:151 ALSes!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Action Item" Request for participation from RALOs to join WGs?
Alan Greenberg:Calls for participants are pretty much always sent to the At-Large list.
Heidi Ullrich:Actually, 154 ALSes!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:That's really excellent Garth
Heidi Ullrich:At-Large WGs Portal: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99704599/At-Large+Working+Groups
Heidi Ullrich:GNSO active teams/groups: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:For the At-Large WGs, the availability of trasncripts just a few days after the calls is a unique opportunity for more ALS to follow the At-Large WGs
Heidi Ullrich:The African and Latin American strategy items are under AoB
Alan Greenberg:Heidi, unfortunately that list includes groups that finished their work nearly 2 years ago...
Heidi Ullrich:AFRALO at the MIG in Addis: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/AFRALO/pages/104631241/AFRALO+at+the+MIG+Works+Multi-stakeholder+Internet+Governance+Meeting+-+March+2013
Heidi Ullrich:@Alan, thanks. I will let GNSO support staff know...
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LACRALO/pages/109744870/Reporte+Retiro+LAC+Estrategia
Tijani BEN JEMAA:sorry, I have to leave now
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Bye
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Tijani
Natalia Enciso:Can you call me back again, please? Thanks
Evan Leibovitch:Canadian Internet Forum happens this Thursday in Ottawa. I'll be there.
Evan Leibovitch:(snow permitting)
Heidi Ullrich:@Natalia, Adigo is dialing you
Natalia Enciso:Thanks Heidi
Ron Sherwood:ccNSO Working Groups: http://www.ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups
Natalia Enciso:back on the call, thanks
Mike Zupke:Just wanted to let you know Mike Zupke and Caitlin Tubergen (staff) have joined your call (for agenda item 10)
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Mike and Caitlin!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Welcome - and apologies whilst we treck through Agenda Items 8 & 9
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:new gTLD Dashboard : https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632075/At-Large+new+gTLD+Applications+Dashboard+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:Review Group Workspace: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/overview
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Draft text for the RALOs : http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/newgtldrg/2013-February/000359.html
Evan Leibovitch:are there actually multiple objections being advanced ragarding .health -- one against each application -- or one larger one against the string?
Heidi Ullrich:Dialing you back< Cheryl
Nathalie Peregrine:Cheryl, we are dialing you back
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome back, Cheryl
Nathalie Peregrine:dialling you back Yaovi
Heidi Ullrich:There will be a call with the Review Group and the RALO officers this week to explain the situtation and answer any questions.
Alan Greenberg:We have guest here to talk....
Heidi Ullrich:@Holly, we can inform the staff person in charge of the PC you mentioned.
Holly Raiche 2:@ Heidi - thanks
Alan Greenberg:AI on Revised New gTLD Agreement should have added: ALAC to submit brief comment today saying that a comment iwill be forthcoming.
Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Expired Registration Recovery Education Needs Workspace - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102642849/At-Large+Expired+Registration+Recovery+Education+Needs+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:Proposed Schedule of the Meeting Strategy Working Group, including reporting requirements:• Call for candidates: 12 February 2013 – 3 March 2013,• Applications send to the relevant AC or SO: 4 March 2013,• List of applicants supported by the relevant SO and AC send to the selectors: 14 March 2013,• Publication of the list of the members of the MSWG: 20 March 2013,• First meeting of the MSWG: week of 25 March 2013,• Discussion in Beijing,
Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Meeting Strategy Working Group Meetings and Events Workspace - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99543946/At-Large+Meeting+Strategy+Working+Group+Meetings+and+Events+Workspace
Natalia Enciso:I have to leave now. Thanks everyone. Bye.
Alan Greenberg:AI on Revised New gTLD Agreement should have added: ALAC to submit brief comment today saying that a comment iwill be forthcoming.
Sandra Hoferichter 2:The ATRT endorsment took quite some time
Heidi Ullrich:@Sala, Bart from the ccNSO support staff hase responded: The chair is Fernando Espania. Please note this working group is internally ccNSO focused, on balancing work load and capacity. They have focused on increasing volunteer capacity, but that part is closed. The wg is currently in its final stage, finalizing its report which has to be shared with the ccNSO Council first, before it can be shared more broadly.
Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Expired Registration Recovery Education Needs Workspace - https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/alacpolicydev/pages/102642849/At-Large+Expired+Registration+Recovery+Education+Needs+Workspace
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Losing audio intermittently.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:my audio?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:or all audio?
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:everybody now.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:yours, alan...
Heidi Ullrich:The Post Expiration Domain Name Recovery PDP made a number of recommendations regarding protecting the rights of registrants related to expiration.The WG recognized that Insufficient registrant understanding and education was a significant problem and addressing that would lower the number of problems experienced by registrants.Among those was a recommendation related to registrant education, and a complementary recommendation requiring registrars to make any such educational material available to registrants. Specifically: Recommendation #16: ICANN, in consultation with Registrars, ALAC and other interested parties, will develop educational materials about how to properly steward a domain name and how to prevent unintended loss. Such material may include registrant responsibilities and the gTLD domain life-cycle and guidelines for keeping domain name records current. Recommendation #17: In the event that ICANN gives reasonable notice to Registrars that ICANN has published web content as described in Re
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:all quite clear here - using dial-out
Ron Sherwood:All audio
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):Audio is OK from here.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Ron; @Rinalia: are you listening on AC or on Phone?
Heidi Ullrich:Examples of possible educational tools: Beginner's Guide to Domain Names
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:AC. It's OK now. But it comes and goes.
Ron Sherwood:AC
Mike Zupke:At-Large Expired Registration Recovery Education Needs Workspace: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/oTQeBg
Nathalie Peregrine:Natalia we are trying to dial back to you
Evan Leibovitch:Zzzzzzz
Heidi Ullrich:Perhaps a briefing call on the topic?
Heidi Ullrich:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99717761/At-Large+Beijing+ICANN+Board+Questions+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/atlarge/pages/99717761/At-Large+Beijing+ICANN+Board+Questions+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:27 meetings!
Heidi Ullrich:I suspect we could provide them
Heidi Ullrich:APRALO Beijing Updates: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/APRALO/pages/115181783/APRALO+Beijing+Events+Workspace
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Holly
Rinalia Abdul Rahim::D
Heidi Ullrich:APRALO General Assembly on Wednesday
Eduardo Diaz:Sorry all but I have to move to another commitment.
Heidi Ullrich:APRALO monthly meeting on Thursday
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks to all. Thanks to the interpretors!
Yaovi Atohoun:bye
Jordi Iparraguirre (isoc.cat):thanks, bye
Julie Hammer:Bye everyone
Sandra Hoferichter 2:bye all!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone, take care all
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):Thanks, bye.
Oksana Prykhodko:Bye, thanks
Ron Sherwood:bye
Matt Ashtiani:thank you everyone, goodbye