2 August 2012

The next meeting of the Locking of a Domain Name Subject to UDRP Proceedings Policy Development Process Working Group teleconference is scheduled for Thursday 2 August 2012 at 1400 UTC.
 
07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET, 22:00 Hong Kong
 
For other places see: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20120426T14
 
Adobe room details: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lockingdt/.

http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-locking-domain-name-20120802-en.mp3

On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#aug

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO

Master Calendar page:

http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/

Attendees:

Randy Ferguson, IPC
Alan Greenberg, ALAC (Vice-Chair)
Luc Seufer, RrSG
Laurie Anderson, RrSG
Matt Schneller - IPC
Celia Lerman Friedman, CBUC
Hago Dafalla, NCUC
Brian Beckham, WIPO
Michele Neylon, RrSG (Chair)
Lisa Garono, IPC
Kristine Dorrain, NAF
David Maher, RySG
David Roache-Turner, WIPO
Baudoin Schombe, At-Large
Faisal Shah, individual

Apologies:

Gabriela Szlak, CBUC
Juan Manuel Rojas, At-Large
Volker Greimann, RrSG
Jonathan D. Tenenbaum, RrSG

Staff Support:

Margie Milam
Berry Cobb
Gisella Gruber

Proposed Agenda:

1. Roll Call / SOI
2. Continue review of survey responses and discuss possible conclusions to be derived from the study
   
   1. Zoomerang Final PDFs and Summary Findings Work Products (sent previously)
   2. UDRP Domain Name Lock Survey - Follow up questions (if submitted)
   3. Attached spreadsheets (see below)
3. 3. Discuss next steps on charter requirements
4. 4. Next steps / confirm next meeting for 16 August 2012

For review:

Adobe Chat Transcript:

Gisella Gruber-White: Welcome to the Locking of a Domain Name Subject to UDRP Proceedings working group on 02 August 2012 at 1400 UTC

Michele Neylon: Hoe gaan dit bokkie?

Michele Neylon: /me whistles innocently

Gisella Gruber-White: Dit gaan baie goed et met jou? lank tyd geen bokkie gehoor nie :-)

Gisella Gruber-White: that was lang

Gisella Gruber-White: Apologies from Juan Manuel Rojas & Gabriela Szlak

Gisella Gruber-White: Did you receive any?

Michele Neylon: Only those two

Michele Neylon: I now have ANOTHER South African working for me

Michele Neylon: which makes 2

Gisella Gruber-White: They are all over ;-)

Michele Neylon: like a swarm of ...

Gisella Gruber-White: mmhhh they must be good if you are employing them!

Michele Neylon: Dit gaan baie goed, dankie. Besig.

Michele Neylon: (he's feeding me text :) )

Gisella Gruber-White: AND you are learning Afrikaans - will be a walk in the park after Dutch

Michele Neylon: nah

Michele Neylon: I'd have to meet a nice South African girl to get the motivation for that

Michele Neylon: http://forum.icann.org/lists/udrp-locking/msg00000.html

Alan Greenberg: Related to what may be an Irishism, Michele, what does "on foot" mean (with regard to "sometimes the complainants). It is our experience that many issues arise in relation to the on-going use of a domain on foot of a UDRP")?

Gisella Gruber-White: Luc Seufer has joined the call

Luc Seufer: I was afraid the call would be held in Dutch :-)

Gisella Gruber-White: Randy Ferguson has joined the call

Gisella Gruber-White: David Roache-Turner has joined the call

Michele Neylon: Matt - I see you

Gisella Gruber-White: Bauduoin Schombe has joined the call but his line has been muted as verey noisy

Gisella Gruber-White: Sheri Falco has joined the AC room

Gisella Gruber-White: Sheri has joined the audio bridge as well

Sheri Falco: Thanks - for the resending of the call info

Gisella Gruber-White: My pleasure

Gisella Gruber-White: Luc disconnected

Gisella Gruber-White: Luc is back

Gisella Gruber-White: David Maher has joined the AC room

Gisella Gruber-White: as well as the audio bride

Berry Cobb: So the question becomes, for those domains where a lock is requested, what is primary notification method? Complaintant or UDRP Provider? Or is this irrelevant?

Michele Neylon: It's relevant (I think)

Berry Cobb: ...and where the provider has to chase it down.

Kristine Dorrain: Michele: I would add that while it's "clear" that the domain name should be locked at LEAST as early as the Provider notifies the Registrar, but that codifying that in our recommendtion will be helpful for the new or reluctant registrars who are NOT currently doing so

Matt Schneller: To the providers: I wonder if the new e-filing system would allow providers to somehow automatically send a confirmation e-mail (akin to the filing receipt that NAF's online filing system sends out immediately upon e-filing) to the registrant and registrar e-mail address(es) submitted by the complainant, to provide an "independent verification" basically immediately after filing. that would provide something from the provider in advance of the notice of commencement.

Kristine Dorrain: From our perspective, that would be easy (but it would only work for e-filers, as you note)

Luc Seufer: @ Kristine upon notification of the provider I agree, that's the current policy. However upon notification of the complainant, this is unacceptable for us as a registrar. We won't accept such liability and workload. We are not equipped to prejudge on the legitimacy of a complaint.

Matt Schneller: Luc: it's not a judgment of the validity, just a temporary acknowledgement of the mere fact of filing

Kristine Dorrain: @Luc I understand. While as a Provider, the early lock will make our job easier, I do note that there is possibly some legal risk for Registrars who do so.

Laurie Anderson: Agreed Matt, it's simply a reasonable assumption of a dispute.

Matt Schneller: Hey Alan - it would be a smooth system, but the providers don't have the technical means or access to records to implement a lock themselves

Laurie Anderson: we typically receive verification requests on these within a day or two

Kristine Dorrain: We'd be willing to discuss what it would take for us get that technology...

Kristine Dorrain: I have to bail for another call. I'll catch up with you all in two weeks.

Berry Cobb: got it.

Gisella Gruber-White: @ Michele - this will be done after the call

Matt Schneller: See you in two weeks. Thanks Michele and everyone

Gisella Gruber-White: and then attached to attendance as well

Gisella Gruber-White: Good bye and speak again on 16th August at 1400 UTC

Laurie Anderson: bye all!