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Transparency Meeting #3 (9 September @ 05:00 UTC )

Transparency Meeting #3 (9 September @ 05:00 UTC )

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Attendees: 

Sub-group Members:   Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chris Disspain, David McAuley, George Sadowsky, Jorge Gonzalez, Jelf Helsingius, Michael Karanicolas, Raoul Plommer, Ricardo Holmquist, Samantha Eisner, Sonigitu Ekpe   (12)

Staff:  Bernie Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Theresa Swinehart

Apologies:  Barbara Wanner, Alan Greenberg

**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**

Transcript

Recording

Agenda

1. Welcome

2. Final Discussion re Thematic Overview Doc

3. Next Steps (Phase 2:  Identifying Problems)

4. AOB

Notes

Transparency Subgroup Meeting #3

Friday, 9 September @ 05:00 UTC

Pages:

1. Welcome

  • Michael Karanicolas: Apologies Chris Wilson, Alan Greenberg.

2. Final Discussion re Thematic Overview Doc

  • Michael Karanicolas: New Thematic Overview document posted a few minutes ago (very bad audio, had to quit and will re-connect).
  • David McAuley: New document vs DIDP is great. Is denial of a DIDP request eligible for Reconsideration or for IRP? If not it is something for consideration.
  • Michael Karanicolas: great suggestion, also consider if Ombuds should be involved. We also have to consider how our recommendations will dovetail with the other sub-groups. Any other points? Discussion of proactive disclosure. No questions or comments. Discussion of Improvement to the existing whistleblower policy. No questions or comments. Will cautiously assume the doc ument seems acceptable for the moment. Will wait for input from the list.
  • Avri Doria: Seems a solid starting point.
  • David McAuley: I expect substantive discussions might expand things on this list a bit

3. Next Steps (Phase 2:  Identifying Problems)

  • Michael Karanicolas: any volunteers for specific sub-areas?
  • Chris Disspain 2: are we going to have specific discussion threads on the list?
  • Avri Doria: i think that would be good, and volunteers may eerge
  • Chris Disspain 2: I think that will help develop the topics
  • David McAuley: +1 Avri and Chris
  • Chris Disspain 2: and as Avri says volunteers will emerge
  • Sonigitu Ekpe: Yes
  • Avri Doria: Have started going through all WS2 tracks for ATRT2 relevant topics and hope to have that soon and could add items to this list.
  • Michael Karanicolas: But that sounds great - and would be happy to add items to the list as they emerge from your research

4. AOB

  • Michael Karanicolas: Any other business? No comments. Adjourned.

Documents Presented

Chat Transcript

  Brenda Brewer:Welcome to the Transparency Subgroup Meeting #3 on 9 September 2016 @ 05:00 UTC!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi Brenda I am on Audio now

  Ricardo Holmquist:good day to all

  George Sadowsky:Good morning, I'm joining as your alternate liaison to the  Board

  David McAuley:Brenda, I am 8222

  Brenda Brewer:Thank you David!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes we can

  Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):yes

  Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):dropped off?

  Chris Disspain:Hello All

  Chris Disspain:apologies for being late

  Ricardo Holmquist:are we loosing part of the conversation, or it is just me?

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:indeed really choppy

  Avri Doria:i don't know if we are losing it, but we get a little latency

  Chris Disspain:ah...thanks Brenda ,  I thiught it was me!

  Avri Doria:i lost him as well

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:making it very hard to follow

  Avri Doria:well that was big bit of latency

  Chris Disspain:Michael we can't here you

  Michael Karanicolas:Apologies - I will try reconnecting

  Michael Karanicolas:Sorry - I will try to reconnect

  Brenda Brewer:Michael, we cannot hear you yet

  David McAuley:uh oh

  David McAuley:sounds ok now

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:still very choppy

  David McAuley:woops - now agree with Bernie

  Chris Disspain:I have dialled in by phome...still cannot hear Michael

  David McAuley:good idea Brenda

  Michael Karanicolas 2:still not working?

  Michael Karanicolas 2:09782618191

  Michael Karanicolas 2:Myanmar number - cell number

  Raoul Plommer:say no more :P

  David McAuley:I think the new doc that Michael just mailed looks good w/respect to DIDP but I do have a clarification request concerning appeals

  David McAuley:will make on phone if we get back or send to list

  Michael Karanicolas 2:So +95 09782618191

  Brenda Brewer:Apolgies, I am unable to dial out to Myanman

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Ohh dear

  Brenda Brewer:I will contact operator to make connection.  Please stand by

  David McAuley:thanks Brenda

  Chris Disspain:personally, spending an hor in slience at 0600 is a win :-)

  Raoul Plommer:sounds good!

  Raoul Plommer:now working really well

  Raoul Plommer:Aye, let's get on with it. Now we can hear everything.

  Brenda Brewer:Operator is in process of calling Michael now

  Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):here we go again

  Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):choppy audio

  David McAuley:choppy again

  Raoul Plommer:it's prolly the myanmar intelligence services having their share

  Michael Karanicolas 2:sorry - just switching to phone

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):fingers crossed it improves

  Raoul Plommer:argh.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):mute your speakers?

  David McAuley:at times yes

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:Sound seems better now

  Avri Doria:Seems a solid starting point.

  David McAuley:I expect substantive discussions might expand things on this list a bit

  Chris Disspain 2:are we going to have specific discussion threads on the list?

  Avri Doria:i think that would be good, and volunteers may eerge

  Chris Disspain 2:I think that will help develop the topics

  David McAuley:+1 Avri and Chris

  Chris Disspain 2:and as Avri says volunteers will emerge

  Sonigitu Ekpe:Yes

  Michael Karanicolas 2:Avri?

  Chris Disspain 2:we can hear you avri

  David McAuley:i can hear avri

  David McAuley:Avri

  Michael Karanicolas 2:Ah - ok - I can hear you

  Michael Karanicolas 2:Ok - cutting in and out a bit for me?

  Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):avri's audio sounded fine to me

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):YUP

  Michael Karanicolas 2:But that sounds great - and would be happy to add items to the list as they emerge from your research

  Avri Doria:what i sad was.  am working on a ATRT2 excpets for ech of the tacks.  have not gotten to this one yet, but should have by our next meeting

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support:bye all

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Great  Thabnks everyione  Bye for now

  Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA):Thank you!

  Raoul Plommer:Thanks Michael! :)

  David McAuley:thanks Michael, staff, and all

  Michael Karanicolas 2:Thanks! Sorry again for the bad connection. Better next time!

  Ricardo Holmquist:bye everyone

  Brenda Brewer:Thank you!  Meeting has concluded.