New gTLD Review Group AC Chat 2013-02-12

  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the New gTLD Review Group on Tuesday 12 February 2013 at 1700 UTC

  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/xgPhBQ

  Garth Bruen:FYI, no voice for me, following and updating textually

  Garth Bruen:Today is also Pazcki Day

  Garth Bruen:Pronouced "push-key" or "punch-key"

  Alexander Kondaurov:Hello everybody!

  Garth Bruen:You put together all your fat and jelly into a bunch of donuts to eat it before lent

  Eduardo Diaz:Hola a todos! - connecting...

  Garth Bruen:That's a Pazcki!

  Garth Bruen:hmmm, eating too many Pazckis

  Dave Kissoondoyal:Hi all

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone

  Heidi Ullrich:Hi!

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Thomas Lowenhaupt has joined the call

  Tom Lowenhaupt:Hello.

  Alexander Kondaurov:Summary is quite clear....   ;+))

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/98632646/amazon-community-objection-tabulation-of-gTLD-RG-scoring-feb-12-2013.pdf

  Nathalie  Peregrine:sure

  Garth Bruen:Back, Adobe Connect keeps locking(Loki-ing) my computer. I have run updates, hopefully that will fix it.

  Garth Bruen:Argh, but now I don't hear anything

  Eduardo Diaz:what about putting together the objection

  Heidi Ullrich:Garth, do you hear audio now

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Garth, if you provide us with a number, we can dial out to you?

  Alexander Kondaurov:My connection is quite unstable....  If  it will brake - I'll try to reconnect...

  Garth Bruen:No, still cant hear. Will reboot one more time. No phone at the moment.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:cna anyone either scroll to the right screen or unlock the screen for us to scoll freely to it?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks

  Alexander Kondaurov:It seems to me that Top-Level domains are much different from any second-level, so all objections are to have priority - just because of the fact that they are uniqe and wrong decision will cost much more then in .com or .org case.

  Garth Bruen:Now I can hear

  Robert Pollard:Re Justine's comment on Targeting.  There is undoubtedly a strong association between amazon.com and the company of that name, however, as far as I can see, there is no evidence of such a relationship between .amazon and the company.  As owner of amazon.com, the company is fully capable of establishing as many sub-domains as it would like, eg books.amazon.com, that would maintain the existing identification with the bookseller.

  Tom Lowenhaupt 2:See my general comment on amazon and patagonia at https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98639516/At-Large+Comments+on+gTLDs+uncategorised#comment-40928786

  Alexander Kondaurov:Tom Lowenhaupt 2 - +1   ;+))

  Tom Lowenhaupt 2:Can Seth's cartoon be posted?

  Tom Lowenhaupt 2:OK

  Garth Bruen:The last series of quesitons are difficult to gather information for

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:can someone please unsync the document because we're on the wrong page

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so we can scroll outselves

  Nathalie  Peregrine:it should be now

  Eduardo Diaz:It's not scrolable

  Nathalie  Peregrine:and now?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thx

  Heidi Ullrich:Sorry, Nathalie! I'll let you drive ;)

  Nathalie  Peregrine::)

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/98632646/patagonia-community-objection-tabulation-of-gTLD-RG-scoring-feb-2013.pdf

  Eduardo Diaz:I gave it a pass grade for I was looking targeting from the perpective of close association

  Eduardo Diaz:The stament before was for the targeting area

  seth:Yes, if nothing else, I am consistent!

  Garth Bruen:Dev, I've just sent my ratings. Sorry, for some reason I never got the original templates

  Garth Bruen:I may when we get to Health

  Garth Bruen:Like I said earlier, it is diffiuclt to answer some of the questions which are hypothetical

  Garth Bruen:I am leaning towards favoring any concerns from a community over those of a private company, especially if these companies have not, as far as I know reached out to the objectors.

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Dave s only on the AC

  Robert Pollard:There is substantial evidence of a growing recognition within the global community of indigenous people that web and digital communications are a vital tool in their efforts to defend their rights and territories. With the Amazon watershed home to many indigenous communities, and with the widely-recognized threats to the critically vulnerable Amazon rainforest ecosystem, the acquisition of .amazon by amazon.com would not only be a detriment to the indigenous communities by depriving them of the opportunity for a subsequent application for .amazon, but would also be a potential detriment to the global ecosystem

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/98632646/health-community-objection-tabulation-of-gTLD-RG-scoring-feb-12-2013.pdf

  Garth Bruen:+1 on that Robert

  Garth Bruen:Kind of ironic since Amazon sells books, which is about chopping down trees

  Garth Bruen:On .health: There is considerable historical evidence of abuse in the DNS specifically of the medical and health fields, paired with a lack of proactive action by registrants, registries, registrars and ICANN in this area. Consumers are also heavily impacted by health-related fraud.

  Garth Bruen:I know, just trying to get it in because my Adobe keeps goin out

  Garth Bruen:Really applies to last list of questions, should have stated that

  Garth Bruen:I have given the rest of the items a Pass except for a few which I have marked as unknown

  Garth Bruen:Yea

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Dev.

  Tom Lowenhaupt 2:One is a crash.

  Robert Pollard:Re Next steps: The Review Group's recommendation will be sent to all the RALO lists ASAP

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:.nyc : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/877052/gTLD-RG/nyc-community-objection-tabulation-of-gTLD-RG-scoring-feb12-2013.pdf

  Garth Bruen:AC crashed again, now I'm back

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632380/.nyc_OG

  Robert Pollard:I  had also sent the objection to the newgtld list

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Robert Pollard comment : https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632380/.nyc_OG?focusedCommentId=40928772#comment-40928772

  seth:I have not.  I would point out that I think Justine and I answered the questions on Community from different perspectives, with Justine focussing on who Tom represents and I will considering the geographic community that is NYC

  Robert Pollard:I would have posted it earlier to .nyc_OG but it took a while to get registered for thw wiki, and the additional time to get permission to add comments; many thanks to Grisella Gruber for her help with this

  Eduardo Diaz:Are we on schedule to evaluate nyc at this time?

  Eduardo Diaz:Thanks to you Dev. Great work/meeting.

  seth:thanks Dev

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks all for your efforts.

  Tom Lowenhaupt 2:Thanks to all the members of the RG and staff.