New gTLD Review Group AC Chat 2013-02-01

Gisella Gruber-White 2:Welcome to the New gTLD Review Group on Friday 01 February 2013 at 1500 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White 2:Agenda: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/ZAPhBQ
  Eduardo Diaz:Hola a todos!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
  Yrjö Länsipuro:Hello!
  Carlton Samuels:Hiya all
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632548/New+gTLD+Review+Group+2013.02.01+Teleconference
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Realised I updated the wrong agenda page before  today :-(  , my apologies
  Carlton Samuels:Please update the participants list
  Julia Charvolen:Sure
  Julia Charvolen:Please mute your microphones if you are not speaking thank you
  Adela Danciu:hi everybody
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/98632485/Community%20objection%20tests.doc
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632218/community+objection+grounds
  Julia Charvolen:Fatimata Seye-Salla joined the phone bridge
  Carlton Samuels:By the way, thanks again to Adela for laying out this document
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/877052/gTLD-RG/community-objection-template-v2.pdf
  Carlton Samuels:Hiya Fatimata, long time no see
  Adela Danciu:that is great Dev
  Carlton Samuels:Great way to connect all the dots, Dev
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632424/.amazon_OG#comment-40176010
  Alexander Kondaurov:I guess - such a community is to have a priority over commercial struture, even big commercial structure...
  Fatimata:Hello All.  Sorry but I couldn't hear Carlton
  Carlton Samuels:@Yrjo: Absolutely true.  But I would think of this much like I would an IDN
  Carlton Samuels:@Guyana is part of the treat and they would refer it as Amazon
  Carlton Samuels:@Alexander: What is the community is just 1 of the tests. We can agree to move along on this criteria
  Eduardo Diaz:Can not hear Olivier to well!!!
  Adela Danciu:voice is breaking
  Carlton Samuels:OCL's quality is very bad
  Seth Reiss:Olivier - can you type your comment?
  Yrjö Länsipuro:Can't hear
  Fatimata:Yes, we cannot understand
  Alexander Kondaurov:Olivier's sound is corrupt...
  Seth Reiss:maybe under the chunnel/
  Heidi Ullrich:LOL
  Heidi Ullrich:Olivier is back
  Alexander Kondaurov:Much better!  ;+))
  Adela Danciu:for how long can we extend this? what is the our deadline?
  Heidi Ullrich:Dev, should that AI include a date by when this must be done or when comments must be received?
  Fatimata:@Heidi:  I think it is very important to include al this infirmation
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:within the next few days - I'll say by Wednesday
  Yrjö Länsipuro:Carlton +1
  Fatimata:It is important to have LACRALO's advice based on the comments of ALSes
  Adela Danciu:I suppose this will be supported by possible further comments
  Carlton Samuels:@Yjro: Maybe his earlier comment had aspects of  'targeting'
  Carlton Samuels:What he was saying was that .amazon was aimed at a global audience
  Kenny Huang:I am sorry for not participating on time due to delay from traffic jam
  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Kenny.
  Yrjö Länsipuro: There are two totally diiferent target communities.
  Seth Reiss:I agree.  Much like the UDRP criteria
  Alexander Kondaurov:Maybe - lack of identity could be comsidered as detriment?
  Carlton Samuels:@Yrjo: +1
  Adela Danciu:@Yrjo - true, but the detriment must be proved to the objector's community
  Adela Danciu:@Carlton +1
  Seth Reiss:There is a distinct difference between second level and top level, so I cannot agree with this assessment
  Heidi Ullrich:.nyc comments: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632380/.nyc_OG
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:can we have .nyc on the Adobe?
  Seth Reiss:Carlton, perhaps the increased harm has to do that in the second level, any given community can find a place to exist among the many TLDs, but at the top level, there is only room for one and it would make sense that the one be delegated to the most appropriate group if the meaning of the string reflects a community.
  Fatimata:Can you all hear Carlton?
  Fatimata:it is hard for me
  Heidi Ullrich:Fatima, he seems clear to me.
  Fatimata:it is getting better
  Carlton Samuels:5 boroughs - Manhattan, Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx
  Carlton Samuels:@Seth: That is an argument and could be developed for greater traction
  Carlton Samuels:@Yjro: +1
  Alexander Kondaurov:It is not clear to me why  the New York City Department of Information  stated application is not "community"?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Question 19 which was asked on the Application: 19. Is the application for a community-based TLD? Answer: No
  Alexander Kondaurov:Just one simple question - does the New York City Department of Information  represent community of NYC?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:So the applicant said it was not a community application.
  Eduardo Diaz:@Olivier: so we do not consider these?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:you can consider any TLD
  Eduardo Diaz:@Olivier: so if we can consider any TLD why the question of being georaphic or not matters?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:because the type of objection that has been asked
  Eduardo Diaz:ok
  Alexander Kondaurov:And who objects .nyc?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632380/.nyc_OG
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:very long list of comments :-)
  Fatimata:How would the resourses generated by .nyc be used if not for the community?  I was just thinking loud...
  Adela Danciu 2:agree - same as .amazon
  Seth Reiss:Agreed
  Seth Reiss:yes, the chat
  Alexander Kondaurov:ютнстнсЫSame as amazon
  Alexander Kondaurov:Oops...
  Alexander Kondaurov:Same as .amazon.
  Adela Danciu 2:homework :)
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632522/.health_OG
  Julia Charvolen: .health_OG
  Julia Charvolen:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632522/.health_OG
  Adela Danciu 2:maybe we should rather test it for limited public interest? community is certainly difficult to substantiate for a general word used as string
  Adela Danciu 2:they mentioned it as "reason"
  Alexander Kondaurov:In general - what is public interest in common words privatization?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/newgtldrg/pages/98632206/Limited+Public+Interest+Objection+Grounds
  Adela Danciu 2:@Carlton - :) agree
  Fatimata:@Yrjo +1
  Adela Danciu 2:no
  Adela Danciu 2:I just wanted to eliminate all grounds ;)
  Seth Reiss:agreed
  Fatimata:..health would mean that anything linked to it is good
  Fatimata:comment going towards an objection
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:You do need to consider the possible relationship between .health and http://www.who.int/about/en/
  Yrjö Länsipuro:If WHO would object, that would be pretty substantial
  Fatimata:I would agree if it was to be managed by WHO
  Fatimata:innocent peiple would take for granted anything published under .health
  Adela Danciu 2:agree with Olivier, but grounds under limited public interest are quite limited too ... ;)
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Yrjö:the objection on the WIKI mentions: • WHO has written to ICANN and the GAC
  Eduardo Diaz:Dev: Thanks for leading this group!
  Heidi Ullrich:Bye!
  Adela Danciu 2:thank you all. have a nice weekend!
  Seth Reiss:Thanks for all you work again Deve
  Kenny Huang:thanks Deve
  Alexander Kondaurov:Thanks everybody!
  Seth Reiss:I heard that!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:good to see methodical thinking here
  Gisella Gruber-White 2:Thank you everyone. I Doodle will be sent out shortly for next week
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Be sure to review the criterion! We all have homework to do, as Adela says