CCWG on IG Teleconference - 2017.03.07 - Adobe Chat

Desiree Cabrera: Today's agenda is also available at: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/CPMMB/pages/110789879/CCWG+on+IG+Teleconference+-+2017.03.07

Rafik: Hi Desiree

Desiree Cabrera: Hi Rafik! How are you?

Tatiana Tropina: Hi all

Julf Helsingius: Good afternoon!

Tatiana Tropina: Good afternoon, Julf

Veni Markovski: hi

Rafik: hi all

Julf Helsingius: Sure!

Rafik: talking from the future :)

Nigel Hickson: Good adfternoon

Julf Helsingius: Someone has mic on

Tatiana Tropina: Nigel had his mic on :)

Veni Markovski: I have muted my phone, and have also used the mute button on my phone just as a backup :)

Rafik: the icann meeting effect

Tatiana Tropina: too many meetings, too little time :)

Julf Helsingius: too much time in meetings

Rafik: I will start meetings rehab center

Rafik: for volunteers to recover

Tatiana Tropina: Rafik this would be a very much needed facility

Matthew S: apologies for being late (again)

Tatiana Tropina: Hi Matt :)

Marilyn Cade: It is not too late to ask for a 20 minute update - 19 p articipants come from the 3 constituencies of the CSG.

Marilyn Cade: Eight come from the RYSG.

Marilyn Cade: :-)

Rafik: the CWG-IG update is in the agenda for gnso-ccnso joint meeting

Julf Helsingius: Marilyn: you cut out

Rafik: yes Marylin line seems cut

Marilyn Cade: happy to work with Nigel and Sam on some ideas on draft outcomes.

Marilyn Cade: simple changes don't need me. It is the outcomes of the work that I thin k is most impportant..

Marilyn Cade: I will commit to work on the outcomes section. and I ask that the consultant improve the timeline which is not very useful without some improvements.

Marilyn Cade: for instance, simple changes to make this more compelling and understandable.

Marilyn Cade: How often do the other CCWGs report?

Marilyn Cade: why not focus this around the ICANN meetings?

Marilyn Cade: but we need to report to the community, not only the chartering organizations.

Matthew S: every two monthsd might be reasonable

Rafik: 3 months would be at every icann meeting, and we keep regular update through, blog posts , etc

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: Resources is of significance. Reporting takes time. If volunteers are to focus on the work itself, we do indeed require adequate staff support. Other CCWGs have a lot more staff support than we do.

Greg Shatan: We have had a commitment to get us more staff support...

Rafik: @Greg hope we dont need a notary for that :)

Greg Shatan: I used to be a notary....

Greg Shatan: If we have non-participating members, we may want to see if their orgs want to put in new blood...

Rafik: we can make call for participants

Rafik: the whole exercise can be a good way to restart

Marilyn Cade: Frankly, if every one who says they are a CCWG-IG member was an advocate within their community, we would have more support from the Chartering Organizations.

Greg Shatan: China released a new ‘International Strategy of Cooperation on Cyberspace’. The document shows China’s:Commitment to build international consensus on international cyberspace order on the basis of state sovereignty and multilateralism;.Supports formulating universally accepted international rules and norms of state behavior in cyberspace within the framework of the United Nations;.Aspirations for joint management of critical information infrastructure such as root servers.

Greg Shatan: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2017-03/01/c_136094371.htm

Greg Shatan: H/T to ISOC Internet Policy list and Halefom Hailu, whose post I just pasted her in part.

Nigel Hickson: Just to be clear the "Charter" work is being taken forward by members of the CCWG; no consultants involved.

Marilyn Cade: China IGF member was very insistant to change IGF and ICANN oversight.

Marilyn Cade: Nigel: who is Samathatha , then who I was told was a retained consultant?

Marilyn Cade: use of consultants is good, but just asking who the consultant is.

Nigel Hickson: Samantha is working on the "Report" and not the "Charter"; best nigel

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: yes we are discussing the Charter now

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: but we appear to have drifted into reporting on current affairs....

Tatiana Tropina: I got a bit lost :-) although China strategy is very much in my field :)

Tatiana Tropina: of interest

Matthew S: it is a good topic for he session next week

Tatiana Tropina: Matt yes, for both F2F and public meeting, I think

Tatiana Tropina: (but for public meeting probably in more general sense, not naming China alone)

Veni Markovski: I need to go to another call - sorry!

Marilyn Cade: China not along, joined by Iran, S.Arabia, Russia, and their satellites counties are supporting this change to achive a UN oversight of ICANN coordination functions.

Mandy Carver: Need to move to next call - thank you

Tatiana Tropina: Marylin, yes

Marilyn Cade: sorry, China not alone... Belurus...

Veni Markovski: Maryiln, yes, that's correct - we've seen it at the ITU, and in the document (will post a link here).

Greg Shatan: Perhaps this should be viewed as being "Phases" of the CCWG IG's work.

Veni Markovski: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2017-03/01/c_136094371.htm

Greg Shatan: But I think giving shape and form to the lifecycle of the group helps to prevent drift.

Veni Markovski: bye.

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: bye @Veni. Thanks for contributing

Greg Shatan: (or the apperance of drift)

Matthew S: got to drop apologies

Marilyn Cade: As the focus is SDGs achievement, this session needs to focus on capacity building -- SDG 17, I think

Marilyn Cade: And this session would be a fantastic contribution to this workshop.

Tatiana Tropina: I think we actually all struggle with capacity building in our respective constituencies

Tatiana Tropina: so a lot to talk about

Marilyn Cade: Yes, indeed, Titiana. I have possibilty of recommending Jimson and Omar - Nigeria and Afghanista.

Marilyn Cade: but we need women speakers to this workshoip.

Tatiana Tropina: if there is any need for Russian women... :-)

Marilyn Cade: WSIS Forum has limited workshops but also has high level speakers.

Marilyn Cade: I will post the workshop timeline so that all are aware.

Marilyn Cade: GREAT, I will leave it to Nigel to do the update on tmelines.excellent.

Tatiana Tropina: bye all! Safe travels. See you in CPH!

Julf Helsingius: Thank you - and see you in Copenhagen!

Greg Shatan: Bye all and safe travels!

Nigel Hickson: Goodbye and thanks