20:37:08 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to ALS Mobilization Working Party Call taking place on Monday, 13 January 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
20:37:37 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/nASJBw
20:57:19 From Alperen Eken : Hello Everyone
21:00:46 From David Mackey : Hi Alperen :-)
21:03:14 From Sarah Kiden : Hello all
21:03:34 From Sarah Kiden : Apologies, just came from another meeting that ended now
21:03:53 From Raymond Mamattah : Good evening from Ghana
21:04:23 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
21:04:28 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : hello all - just coming in from the CBWG call
21:08:10 From Filina Natalia : hi all!
21:11:53 From Judith Hellerstein : But in EURALO individuals are part of an ALS called the individual ALS
21:12:22 From Sarah Kiden : Noted. Will edit later and after
21:12:37 From Nadira Al Araj : I think that ALSes are different structures than individual or unaffiliated members
21:12:58 From shreedeep rayamajhi : I think it would easy to work with the commonality of both als and individual member
21:13:16 From Nadira Al Araj : That is why we need to handle it differently
21:15:27 From Sarah Kiden : +1 Nadira
21:15:43 From Nadira Al Araj : ALSes are the responsibility of ALAC and not ICANN
21:16:22 From Filina Natalia : @Judith it`s a formal enter for individuals, even if we call it like ALS it is different nature as we understand
21:20:34 From Sarah Kiden : Noted
21:20:58 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you
21:21:13 From Alperen Eken : Hello everyone! Here is the link to ACTION ITEMS https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+Items%3A+2020-01-13+ALS+Mobilization+Working+Party+Call
21:21:39 From Alperen Eken : All ACTION ITEMS, will be posted in the respective page for every meeting/
21:22:55 From Nadira Al Araj : Yes, this is the weakest link
21:26:11 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : communication design needs to go beyond email, it could be based on, or centered around an interactive blog with a news blog like look and feel, a moderated comment interface wherein a comment by any published ALS member on a news item / issue becomes an input if certain weight.
21:26:58 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : The comment interface is meant to be as easy as chat
21:29:15 From shreedeep rayamajhi : the problem right now is als limited and the also members have no clue about the work of icann. the point is to get all the information to them through the also
21:29:23 From Judith Hellerstein : I agree with you alan
21:29:57 From Heidi Ullrich : @Alan, for those who may not be familiar with the Bylaws, could you please clarify which bylaw issue?
21:30:17 From David Mackey : +1 Alan!
21:30:17 From shreedeep rayamajhi : nadira is right there isa huge problem in understanding the process and work of ICANN
21:31:38 From Roberto : I don’t think that there’s an easy way to understand the process and work of ICANN
21:31:41 From Judith Hellerstein : I am not sure I understand what you are saying
21:31:51 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : The blog can have an At Large news page / issues page as the front page + a page ( tabs) for every ALS to add a page, a members gets by default a news blog of his ALS + At Large home page, with an option to subscribe to other ALSs. There can be featured articles / featured issues.
21:31:56 From Judith Hellerstein : that the formal rep is not the person to target
21:32:01 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Then a lot of work that the CBWG and O&E in developing materials that address that lack of understanding about DNS, what is ICANN etc
21:33:04 From Roberto : A wise guy that I met in the past used to say: “There’s only one way to eat an elephant - piece by piece” - sorry if you feel that this sentence is not politically correct or can offend somebody, it’s just an example
21:33:44 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : @Siva, some of those concepts could be done to the proposed ICANN blog https://icannatlarge.blog
21:34:02 From Filina Natalia : +1 to Roberto
21:34:21 From shreedeep rayamajhi : the communication has to be clear within the circle connecting the dots
21:34:22 From Nadira Al Araj : @Roberto it is good example
21:34:57 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : We need to paraphrase the work we do, to reach out a multitude of people concerned out the outcome of the issues we work on
21:37:18 From shreedeep rayamajhi : alot of the times the members have no idea about icaan affilaitation and about the icann intervention and they don't share the information in their communication channels as well
21:38:05 From Judith Hellerstein : I also suggest that we reduce the number of emails sent out. right now people can get 3 emails, alas announce, at large, and a working group
21:38:06 From shreedeep rayamajhi : the representative don't share the information
21:38:25 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : +1 David it is an important that ALSes see some value in being members of At-Large
21:38:32 From shreedeep rayamajhi : the problem will be the same judith
21:38:33 From Judith Hellerstein : I agree with david we need to put forward the benefits
21:38:52 From shreedeep rayamajhi : +1 david
21:39:26 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : #3 could incorporate what you mention David
21:39:34 From Sarah Kiden : Agree with your comments @David
21:40:44 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Because this document is for us, it needs to include the recommendations that are made by our members
21:41:17 From Judith Hellerstein : Atlas 3 was working on this
21:41:38 From Judith Hellerstein : Also the policy workshops are helping this out
21:44:28 From Judith Hellerstein : My areas of knowledge is not finance but yet I have been active on this area
21:44:51 From shreedeep rayamajhi : even the community page update for the least
21:47:30 From Nadira Al Araj : Are all those ALSes still exist?
21:48:13 From Filina Natalia : @Nadira. Hope almost
21:49:01 From Filina Natalia : Formally yes, but in fact - it is a question
21:49:04 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : @Alan.. Tough. If people want to be part of ICANN then they have to take responsibility for this. They should be able to do this online so no responsibility for staff.
21:49:15 From Judith Hellerstein : in naralo we cleaned out these dead alses from our RALO
21:49:57 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Some ALSes still don't provide any information online (as a website or FB page) and they haven't, but are still on our list.
21:50:03 From shreedeep rayamajhi : great way @judith I think clean out is the solution and start fresh
21:50:07 From Nadira Al Araj : Still to be done in APRALO @Natalia @Judith
21:50:12 From Judith Hellerstein : I think they should be tracked
21:50:30 From Filina Natalia : Nadira, great!
21:51:11 From Judith Hellerstein : We also said to all our ALSES that they have to come to at least 3 meetings a year
21:51:11 From Nadira Al Araj : Maybe as an action after the recommendation from this group passed to the RALOS
21:51:26 From Judith Hellerstein : now we get many people coming to our meetings
21:51:32 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : But these relate to the ALS reps only
21:52:04 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : The intent is having more persons in ALS getting more involved
21:52:15 From Filina Natalia : we can define the rules and obligations of participation. I think the als representatives should be responsible for being able to be in touch at least.
21:52:38 From shreedeep rayamajhi : agree @natalia
21:53:29 From Filina Natalia : we can't force them to be active, but we sometimes have a silent
21:53:38 From Raymond Mamattah : It is okay by me
21:53:55 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : I like this time
21:53:59 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : go with this day and time
21:54:06 From Heidi Ullrich : @All, Alp will be the support staff for this WP. He works on Monday, Tuesday and Fridays.
21:54:15 From Maritza Aguero : Okay with me
21:55:25 From Sarah Kiden : +1 Dev
21:55:28 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Good idea Dev
21:55:43 From shreedeep rayamajhi : Dev is right we can only do it right on the basis of what we know about them
21:55:59 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : +1 Shreedeep
21:59:24 From Raymond Mamattah : I dont think the size of the ALS members should be a concern. I think it should be what the ALS does. I think an ALS with lesser number could possibly even be more effective with a higher number of membership. My view
22:00:37 From Heidi Ullrich : @All, please note that the post-ATLAS III activities will run in parallel to this group’s work. This includes a focus on policy, capacity building, communications, and outreach and engagement activities.
22:00:48 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : A small ALS can be effective but then they may be super focused on what they formed the org to do
22:00:52 From shreedeep rayamajhi : why is that an als representative is very active at times of fellowship application and when it come to sharing information he is silent.
22:02:05 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : The survey in 2010 : https://community.icann.org/display/ALSurvey/At-Large+Structure+2010+Survey+Workspace?preview=/2264933/6094859/ALS_Survey_Analysis_2010-Dec-2010-draft-final.pdf
22:02:27 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you Dev for the 2010 survey
22:03:11 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : We did ATLAS III fairly quickly -
22:04:47 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you
22:04:50 From shreedeep rayamajhi : thank u
22:04:53 From David Mackey : ty
22:04:53 From Filina Natalia : thank you all
22:04:55 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : take care all
22:05:01 From Nadira Al Araj : @Dev thank you for the survey, Very interesting because this issue has been of concern for a long time
22:05:03 From Roberto : Bye
22:05:08 From Nadira Al Araj : bye