Sub-group Members: Alan Greenberg, Avri Doria, Beth Bacon, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, George Sadowsky, Greg Shatan, Herb Waye, Jeff Neuman, Jordan Carter, Julf Helsingius (10)
Staff: Bernie Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Karen Mulberry, Patrick Dodson, Theresa Swinehart (5)
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Brenda Brewer: (3/2/2017 12:27) Good day all and welcome to Staff Accountability Subgroup Meeting #11 on 2 March 2017 @ 19:00 UTC!
Julf Helsingius: (12:57) Good evening
Herb Waye Ombuds: (12:58) Hello everyone
George Sadowsky: (12:59) Please, I am prohibited from joining the conversation and speaking. Please change my settings.
Julf Helsingius: (13:00) Avri: was that a heavy sigh?
Brenda Brewer: (13:00) George, I have nothing blocking you today. Please log in again to Adobe if possible.
Julf Helsingius: (13:01) urgh
George Sadowsky: (13:01) OK, logging off and re-entering.
Julf Helsingius: (13:01) Only my second call today, and it is only 8pm here...
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (13:01) having audio issues will re log in
George Sadowsky: (13:02) Thx Brenda, back in and can join with microphone operational
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (13:02) audio seems down for me can anyone talk for a sound check?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:02) the call my phone option is failing again!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:04) only through the AC which is not optimal am brings in echo
Brenda Brewer: (13:05) This adobe room is being rebuilt after this call.
Brenda Brewer: (13:05) Apologies for the AC issues.
Herb Waye Ombuds: (13:05) sorry not my jurisdiction... Adobe is on its own
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:06) really an issue I trust It is addressing it urgently Brenda and
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:06) Jordan try to speak up a bit
Julf Helsingius: (13:07) @Brenda: rebuilt, bit by bit?
Brenda Brewer: (13:08) fingers crossed complete overhaul!!!
Jordan Carter: (13:10) I don't mind if that happens at this stage Cheryl, tho I would welcome that wider read
Jordan Carter: (13:11) it's just about a different method of working, I think - very solveable
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:12) pointing them is fine getting them to look/read and analysing the docs another matter all together
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:12) point well made Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:12) a cultural change is needed
George Sadowsky: (13:13) I htink that Jordan is correct
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:13) True... but...... ...
Jeff Neuman: (13:14) I can :)
Jeff Neuman: (13:14) I am sneding to the group on e-mail shortly.
Jordan Carter: (13:15) I really think that a focus on id'ing prolems and working up solutions is much more useful
Jordan Carter: (13:15) i'm just sorry we got to that method change late
Jordan Carter: (13:15) Alan - yes, it is, but I was using it as a "contrast" with this
Jordan Carter: (13:16) great context / useful
Jordan Carter: (13:16) and it has to be OK for it to be that, right
Jordan Carter: (13:16) as opposed to "omg staff capture"
Greg Shatan: (13:17) Alan's discussion highlights the kind of "deeper dive" we need to do as we narrow our focus from the meta-analysis of the first iteration.
Jordan Carter: (13:17) yup
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:17) indeed
Jordan Carter: (13:19) i have a hard stop quite shortly
Jordan Carter: (13:19) (I have to speak at a seminar about the transition!)
Greg Shatan: (13:20) That old thing?
Jordan Carter: (13:20) "Proposes solutions to resolve those problems or mechanisms that could resolve them as they arise from time to time"
Jeff Neuman: (13:22) I just sent the e-mail. Please let me know if you all get it. Bernie - are you on that list and will you get the copy?
Jordan Carter: (13:22) the effect of the change would be, overall, to get us focused on the issues raised or identified, and solutuons, or ways to prevent recurrance
Jordan Carter: (13:22) (the change of scope, that is)
Greg Shatan: (13:22) WS2 is supposed to use Stress Tests, just like WS1.
Jordan Carter: (13:22) thanks all
Jordan Carter: (13:23) great feedback
Jordan Carter: (13:23) it feels like a more solid direction to be going
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:23) all good
Jordan Carter: (13:23) Jeff - your letter is on the list
Jordan Carter: (13:23) I will work with Avri to finalise the text and send it in
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:23) thanks Jeff
Jeff Neuman: (13:24) Thanks.....it was a challenge getting this to you
Julf Helsingius: (13:24) Thanks, Avri!
Jeff Neuman: (13:24) Please let me know if you have any questions on the letter
Jordan Carter: (13:24) ta all
Herb Waye Ombuds: (13:24) bye folks
Greg Shatan: (13:24) Thank you all.
Theresa Swinehart: (13:24) thanks all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (13:24) bye