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PPSAI Category B Question 3 - Updated 17 April 2014
DRAFT PPSAI - Cat C - Question 1 - 12 April 2014
"Side Questions" on Renewals & Transfers:
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The Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP): http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/transfers (NOTE: Please also check the GNSO's Active Projects page for the status of ongoing work on IRTP-B, IRTP-C and IRTP-D: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active)
MP3 Recording: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140422-en.mp3
Meeting Transcript: http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-ppsa-22apr14-en.pdf
Attendees:
Luc Seufer - RrSG
Graeme Bunton – RrSG
Tim Ruiz – RrSG
Steve Metalitz - IPC
Kathy Kleiman – RySG
Darcy Southwell - RrSG
Libby Baney - BC
Susan Prosser – RrSG
Justin Macy – BC
Jim Bikoff – IPC
David Heasley – IPC
Michele Neylon – RrSG
Jennifer Standiford – RrSG
James Bladel – RrSG
Volker Greimann – RrSG
Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG
Paul McGrady – IPC
Tobias Sattler – RrSG
Phil Marano – IPC
Christain Dawson – ISPCP
Don Blumenthal – RySG
Griffin Barnett – IPC
Valeriya Sherman – IPC
Amr Elsadr – NCUC
Maria Farrell – NCUC
Marie-Laure Lemineur – NPOC
Todd Williams – IPC
Don Moody – IPC
Michael Palage – RySG
Alex Deacon – IPC
Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC
Apologies:
Gema Campillos – GAC
Kristina Rosette – IPC
Sarah Wyld – RrSG
Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP
ICANN staff:
Marika Konings
Mary Wong
Amy Bivins
Joe Catapano
Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 22 April 2014:
Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 22 April 2014
Amr Elsadr:Yes. Hello.
Graeme Bunton:G'mornin all
Bladel:g'mornin' y'all
Michele Neylon:Getting more coffee
Michele Neylon:but listening
Alex Deacon:Good morning.
Terri Agnew:Tim Ruiz has joined audio
Tim Ruiz:I am now also on adobe.
Terri Agnew:Jennifer standiford has joined
Jennifer Standiford:good morning
Bladel:More of a notification at this point. :)
Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined
Terri Agnew:Volker Greimann has joined
Volker Greimann:sorry for my lateness
Kathy K:we're not looking for perfect - just good, workable and hopefully as automated as easy as possible
Volker Greimann:Tim: I'd put them in the "nice to have" category
Darcy Southwell:One concern I have with this idea is that, if the transfer fails, we now have our privacy service information listed without any connection to a P/P customer that we have.
Tim Ruiz:@Volker, right.
Bladel:Agree with Tim. IF you suppor this, here are some uniform standards. But agree we shouldn't require feature sets.
Terri Agnew:Maria Farrell has joined
Volker Greimann:I would see it as a recommendation according to these lines: "To enable privacy protection during transfers, the gaining/losing registrar may...."
Bladel:I think we should address Steve's first point: Is this a matter of policy or product development/innovation?
Paul McGrady:I would be happy to be in that offline subgroup if everyone decides we should have one
Terri Agnew:Marie-Laure Lemineur has joined
Volker Greimann:that way we could implement policy excemptions to transfer policies, RAA requirements, etc.
Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:Apologies for the being late
steve metalitz:I am open to making this an accreditation requirement IF there is a practical way to do it. The purpose of the subgroup would be to answer whether it is practical.
steve metalitz:"This" = enabling transfer without losing p/p protection.
Kathy K:Agree with Steve!
Paul McGrady:Agree with Steve and Kathy
Amr Elsadr:Also agree with Steve.
Val Sherman:+1 @Steve
Tim Ruiz:Could we not just say that all notices required via RAA or Policy by ICANN should be relayed?
Darcy Southwell:Agree with Steve, Kathy, and Tim.
Kathy K:If the
Kathy K:Registrant has the AuthInfo code, does that help?
Kathy K:Is there an AuthInfo code for the Redemption Grace Period?
Michele Neylon:You can't transfer during redemption
Kathy K:+1 Tim - and tx you!
Kathy K:Michele, tx for clarification.
Kathy K:Understand
Tim Ruiz:Conditions under which a p/p would terminate its service should be REQUIRED to be communicated to the beneficial user. But providing for non-diclosure of their data if transfering should only be suggested, or at most a best practice recommendation.
Kathy K:Interesting, can we factor in Tim's information?
Kathy K:In this case too, it seems there is no reason to disclose the underlying personal data of the Registrant
Michele Neylon:I'll shove my comment in the chat
Michele Neylon:Can you force me to do business with someone?
Michele Neylon:We're a private company
Michele Neylon:We could say that we don't support a particular type of software
Michele Neylon:0h wait - we do that already :)
Bladel:correct.
Kathy K:+1 to Steve's suggestion for a subgroup on Transfers. I volunteer.
Tim Ruiz:No objection to "small" group looking at the transfer issues as a whole, but will it be small?
Bladel:I agree Michele. Then that takes "mandatory" privacy/proxy service transfers off the table.
Tim Ruiz:Don't we require registries to deal with all registrars except under certain specific situations.
Michele Neylon:Thankfully KS is a reseller / wholesaler so they have experience
Michele Neylon:Tim - they have to abuse us all equally
Tim Ruiz:Exactly. So should we not have to abuse all accredited p/p services equally.
Paul McGrady:Great call! Thanks everyone.
Kathy K:Great, tx Don and All!
Michele Neylon:We don't have to offer all TLDs
Phil Marano:Thank you.
Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:thank you Don
Mary Wong:Thanks everyone.
Michele Neylon:But it's an interesting question ..
Michele Neylon:*gone*
Tobias Sattler:Bye