Attendees:
Sub-group Members: Avri Doria, David McAuley, Greg Shatan, Kavouss Arasteh, Liz Le, Robin Gross, Samantha Eisner
Staff: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Patrick Dodson
Apologies: /
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Agenda
- Admin/SOI
- Finalizing Time-for-Filing language for public comment and discussion about public comment period and details
- Types of hearings
- Review of interim rules that were emailed by Sam Eisner on May 8
- Further thoughts on IOT work after rules
- AOB
Transcript
- Word doc
Recording
Raw Caption Notes*
*Note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call
- Word Doc
Decisions
- Core text for Repose is accepted for public consultation as a second reading confirmed. DM and Staff will work out the details to get this posted as soon as possible.
Action Items:
- DM – Will post to list on situation regarding Rule 5 vs MH’s concerns
- SE – Will circulate final interim rules in red-line and clean.
- DM,SE and staff – Contact Holly re Interim rules
- Staff – ensure time at WS2 Face to Face at ICANN 62 for DM to present consultation on repose.
Requests:
Next meeting:
- Thursday 14 June 1900 UTC
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (6/7/2018 13:34) Good day all! Welcome to IRP-IOT Meeting #41 on 7 June 2018 @ 19:00 UTC.
Brenda Brewer: (13:34) This call is recorded please mute (*6) when not speaking. *6 will unmute as needed. Thank you!
Captioner: (13:53) I'm on computer audio...should I call in?
Captioner: (13:53) Ok you sound great
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (13:58) can someone say something I am not hearing anything
David McAuley: (13:59) i am 4154
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:00) we will start at 3 after the hour
David McAuley: (14:00) i will speak again at 3 min past hour
David McAuley: (14:01) please mute
avri doria: (14:03) apologies, went to a zoom room instead.
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:09) done
Kavouss Arasteh 2: (14:18) The power of the panel should not be more than it needs
Samantha Eisner: (14:22) As far as I recall, there is the ability to rebut the presumption against in-person hearings. Which means that there can be an in-person hearing
Samantha Eisner: (14:22) so I think that what Greg is concerned about is already in there?
Liz Le: (14:23) Rule 5 currently states: "The presumption against in-person hearings may be rebutted only under extraordinary circumstances, where, upon motion by a Party, the IRP PANEL determines that the party seeking an in-person hearing has demonstrated that: (1) an in-person hearing is necessary for a fair resolution of the claim; (2) an in-person hearing is necessary to further the PURPOSES OF THE IRP; and (3) considerations of fairness and furtherance of the PURPOSES OF THE IRP outweigh the time and financial expense of an in-person hearing."
avri doria: (14:25) what exactly is different in Malcolm's change. i lost it.
Brenda Brewer: (14:29) Sam, you can scroll
Brenda Brewer: (14:30) Document posted here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_dSUFBQ&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=kbiQDH54980u4nTPfwdloDLY6-6F24x0ArAvhdeDvvc&m=RgMUThsi1aOmb1ZigZBLLJrMnXCp63Op69REg-WuQdo&s=SGXdtBZIS2k1leoYXr1-cS8Z3l6z9-WaoKCvoCwRQGA&e=
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:32) time check - 28 minutes left in call
David McAuley: (14:35) Brenda - can you enlarge print a bit
David McAuley: (14:36) i cant read footnote 20
Brenda Brewer: (14:43) scroll for all
Brenda Brewer: (14:43) you may enlarge document as needed
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:43) ok
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (14:50) time check - 10 minutes left in call
Samantha Eisner: I have to drop. Talk to everyone later