Documents Presented 

plenary notes

Chat Transcript

  Brenda Brewer:  Good day and welcome to SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #24 on 23 March 2017 @ 05:  00 UTC!

  Brenda Brewer:  Please mute your phone when not speaking by pressing *6 (star 6)  *6 will also unmute.  Thank you!

  Kavouss Arasteh:  Good evening dear Brenda and Yevette

  Yvette Guigneaux:  good evening Kavouss

  Kavouss Arasteh:  Yevette, Thank you for the kind assistance provided at Airport

  Yvette Guigneaux:  you're welcome Kavouss but i believe Brenda deserves the credit on that one  =)

  Yvette Guigneaux:  glad you are feeling better too

  Kavouss Arasteh:  Yes Certainly indeed

  Yvette Guigneaux:  Kavouss - do you still need a dial out or are you ok without one?

  Yvette Guigneaux:  dialing you in now Kavouss

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Hi everyone

  Kavouss Arasteh:  Good morning dear Admiral Cheryl

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  hi Kavouss,  late afternoon here in AU :  -)

  Kavouss Arasteh:  YES, AND EARLY MORNING IN COLD gENEVA

  Kavouss Arasteh:  Sorry for Cap

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  NP

  Kavouss Arasteh:  Do we have Farzi on the call?

  Steve DelBianco:  see the wiki, 03-March document is at top

  Steve DelBianco:  Wiki is slow this morning, so I have emailed the current version just now.

  Alan Greenberg:  I have a copy distributed on the 3rd but it is labeled 11.0 in the file name and 1.0 at the top of the page.

  Alan Greenberg:  I'm sure he will.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Perfect  so PLenary Drft 1.0 is the new nmenclature  (My most humble apologies Alan and WT)

  Alan Greenberg:  To add to the confusion, the file name says 11.0!

  Steve DelBianco:  Yvette -- do you have the PDF I distributed earlier today -- the notes from Copenhagen?

  Steve DelBianco:  we'll want to load that next

  Yvette Guigneaux:  i have two docs - plenary notes sent today and the draft just sent now

  Steve DelBianco:  Plenary notes, please

  Yvette Guigneaux:  on screen

  Yvette Guigneaux:  scrolling available if need be

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Indeed Steve  if we were all in the room we can fast track  todays process

  jorge villa (ASO):  yes, we were in copenhagen

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Scroll  to the Heading Track 1 in the email notes  10 March Email

  Yvette Guigneaux:  on screen

  CW:  In principle, Yes.

  Yvette Guigneaux:  Kavouss - little trouble hearing you - are you able to speak up please?

  CW:  Alan:   are we sure that ICANN will produce an effective diversity policy?

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Local storms here  and my bandwidth seems effected  SOrry  my AC  is behind everyone else it seems not seeing hands up in a timely manner

  jorge villa (ASO):  The diversity topic can be managed in a different ways between SO/AC. If we include a recommendarion, it must be very general recommendation

  Yvette Guigneaux:  we heard you much better Kavouss, thank you

  Kavouss Arasteh:  May we add " Diversity2 and indicate " as being developed by other WS-2 Usub group

  Kavouss Arasteh:  "Diversity"

  Steve DelBianco:  in our report, there is one mention of diversity in the NCUC's responses to our questions.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  the AC/SO's desirable diversity dimensions   needs to be considered ... ... ...

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  with a cross reference to 'subject to the outcimes of the WS@-Diversity WT  etc.,

  jorge villa (ASO):  I think that trying to resume diverity between SO/ACs might be a daunting task, The diversity concepts important for a group may differ from others. I think that maybe in further versions we might include something if we are completely clear of how this concept will be manged between SO/ACs

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):   as footnote or otherwise

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  indeed Jorge  therefore we need to keep our BP recs very generic

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  as *examples* of appropriate reasns for .. ... ...    Yes

  Kavouss Arasteh:  could you put the text in the chat

  CW:  my mike is on

  Yvette Guigneaux:  yes

  Yvette Guigneaux:  time check - 30 minutes

  Alan Greenberg:  If we use "normally" or some such wording, I have no problem with the list.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Minutes / Notes and any recordings  as the 'term' where Minutes is used now perhaps

  Kavouss Arasteh:  What is that Bylaws change

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Participation Recc 4 :   For any meetings, be they closed to members only or open to anyone, members  have to be able to access all records of the meeting, subject to exceptions for confidentiality matters.   Transparancy Recc 5:   Notes, Minutes or Records for all membership meetings should be made publically available.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):  Does that language work  for the Finn Peterson point re consistency?

  Yvette Guigneaux:  time check - 5 min

  Alan Greenberg:  The day we have a real issue to discuss in such a group, a public meeting will NOT be the place to do it.

  Steve DelBianco:  Note that Avri was suggesting we not mention the Complaints Officer as alternative to IRP. In our report we do not mention complaints officer.   So no change is needed to accomodate Avri's comment

  avri doria:  bye