Veni Markovski: hello
nigel hickson: Good evening
Bill Drake: woo-zen?
Bill Drake: you're not and it's noisy
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: woozen? Woo-shan?
Bill Drake: someone needs to mute
Peter Dengate Thrush 2: greetings all
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: We are starting with Agenda Item 6
Oksana Prykhodko 2: Hi everyone What is the legal status of WSIS+10 outcome document from New-York? In Eujrope - do we have to wait for any decisions of EU bodieas of Council of Europe?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: @Oksana we'll discuss this when we reach agenda item 3
Bill Drake: a report would be great Nigel
Bill Drake: co-chair of the advisory group
Oksana Prykhodko 2: @Olivier - please raise this issue if I will have no possibilities to do it in time
Bill Drake: I don't think Fadi was 'trapped,' he's been developing his relationship with these folks for some time
Greg Shatan: Fadi's trying to define post-ICANN Fadi....
Greg Shatan: I didn't say it....
Veni Markovski: welcome :)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: @Greg: what you've mentioned in this chat is what's being widely said outside ICANN. The bottom line is that it is an embarrassing situation that this WG was not even aware of what was going to take place in Wuzhen
Bill Drake: Why should little irrelevant people be informed?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: @Bill: because with ICANN's accountability community powers....
Bill Drake: I was being ironic......
Oksana Prykhodko 2: @Veni once again - can I say in Ukraine that this is binded international document?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: @Bill: you're too cynical these days
Oksana Prykhodko 2: @Bill - not funny from ourside((((
Greg Shatan: Sorry about that. Holiday shopping!
nigel hickson: @Oksana - This is a UN Resolution - has no legal force. So no need for European implementastion
Greg Shatan: I have now muted myself.
Oksana Prykhodko 2: @Nigel - thank you very much((((( we can't rely on it(((
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: Thanks @Greg
Greg Shatan: @Olivier, we still have a way to go before this group is seen as an advisory body to ICANN corporate on IG matters. Of course, ICANN might say that this wasn't an ICANN matter, but "hat-changing" only goes so far....
Bill Drake: Perhaps we should talk about Wuzhen process in the Marrakech IG session?
Peter Dengate Thrush 2: Bill : agreed . good topic
Oksana Prykhodko 2: @Veni Sorry missed the date of discussion in Geneva
Veni Markovski: thanks, Bill.
Bill Drake: it's forum creation
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2: yes, that's a tactic like any other
Bill Drake: And China plays long game
Bill Drake: WSIS Forum is welcomed in perpetuity...unlike IGF
Bill Drake: BTW there will be a lot of IG-related stuff happening in the WEF context
Bill Drake: next year, nobody paying attention nwo
Veni Markovski: @oksana: http://www.itu.int/en/council/Pages/schedule.aspx
Bill Drake: I love this, the ITU's Open Consultation is open to governments http://www.itu.int/en/council/cwg-internet/Pages/open-consultations.aspx
Veni Markovski: I have to step away, I am afraid - confiicting schedule. Please, have happy holidays (those of them, who you celebrate), and talk to you all in next year, hopefully!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2: Thankks for your update, @Veni
Veni Markovski: Thank you, Olivier, for your chairmanship!
Bill Drake: we need more info
Bill Drake: ciao Vinnie
Bill Drake: Veni
Bill Drake: oops
Bill Drake: can't edit this chat like Skype...
Bill Drake: what was said onthe last call?
Bill Drake: https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule-full
nigel hickson: Was WSIS post mortem as one item
nigel hickson: IG Public Session is on Thursday; 09.00 - 10.15
judith hellerstein: Sorry took me a long time to get on as the adobe would not launch, but got on the audio. missed the first half of the meeting
Peter Dengate Thrush 2: lets discuss agenda ideas on line
Bill Drake: BTW the Russian IGF should be interesting in this context
Olivier Crepin-Leblond 2: @Judith: the recording will be on line soon
Bill Drake: those are the listed topics, but the behind it is an overarching concern with the open internet, which there's separate work on
Bill Drake: http://www.oecd.org/sti/dep-ministerial-2016.htm
Bill Drake: http://www.oecd.org/sti/dep-ministerial-2016.htm
Bill Drake: bad connection, teh first one didn't show
Bill Drake: less oo
judith hellerstein: thanks
Bill Drake: 11th
judith hellerstein: either is fine with me
Bill Drake: 3rd
judith hellerstein: Yes wef is week of jan 20
judith hellerstein: good point nigel
Bill Drake: sounds good
judith hellerstein: yes marilyn cade is the point person here
Peter Dengate Thrush 2: thanks Chair thanks all Happy Holidays!m
judith hellerstein: thanks all
Bill Drake: woop de doo
judith hellerstein: happy new year to all
nigel hickson: indeed best to all
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