2025-05-19 RDRS Standing Committee - Meeting #33

PROPOSED AGENDA

1. Welcome 

2. Continue discussion on Chapter 4

3. AOB

BACKGROUND DOCUMENTS

PARTICIPATION

Apologies: Sarah Wyld (RrSG), Sebastien Ducos

Alternate joining: Roger Carney (RrSG)

Attendance

RECORDINGS

Audio Recording

Zoom Recording

GNSO transcripts are located on the GNSO Calendar

Notes/ Action Items

Action Items: 

·         RDRS SC members to review and provide input to Assignment 4 Exercise. [docs.google.com] Populate the “Lessons Learned”(where relevant and if not done already in Draft Chapter3) and provide assessment on “RDRS SC input” column. Deadline 29 May 2025

·         SC members to indicate for each EPDP Phase 2 Recommendation based on experience with RDRS:

·         Retain as-is

·         Modify

·         No longer necessary

·         Any other input or assessment

·         Support Staff to update the Assignment 4 Exercise document based on 19 May RDRS SC discussion. 

Agenda:

1. Welcome 

·         John McElwaine opened the meeting, acknowledging Seb’s absence due to illness.

2. Continue discussion on Chapter 4

2. Chair Update

·         Emphasized Assignment 4 of the RDRS Standing Committee Charter:

·         Assess each EPDP Phase 2 recommendation using RDRS pilot data.

·         Recommendations should be evaluated as:

·         Retain as-is

·         Modify

·         No longer necessary

·         Any other input

·         Timely Need for Input:

·         No SC member has yet completed the action items and review for Assignment 4.

·         Chair urged timely participation, suggesting openness to revised approaches if members want to propose new ones.

·         18 EPDP Phase 2 recommendations need review.

·         Proposed Timeline:

·         Discuss 6 recommendations on 19 May and 2 June.

·         Next 12 Recs to be reviewed during ICANN 83 (two 90-minute sessions).

·         Target: Draft Final Findings Report by August for Public Comment.

2. GNSO Council Update

• Council leadership clarified:

• This exercise is not policy-making but informed feedback.

• EPDP recommendations are already adopted by GNSO Council and are pending Board review.

• The committee’s role is to assess their implementation status (fully, partially, not at all).

• Council wants clarity: retain/modify/reject, and note any divergence in perspectives.

• Some SC Members cautioned against “cherry-picking” from recommendations that were intended as a package.

• Emphasized the original group’s view that SSAD recommendations should be treated holistically.

• Some SC Members proposed two interpretations:

·         Either all recommendations go forward

·         Or none do, prompting a reset.

• SC Chair clarified that analysing Recommendations individually doesn't imply breaking up the package.

2. Discussion on Assignment 4 Exercise

·         SC Members initiated a focused discussion on:

·         EPDP Phase 2 Recommendation #1: Accreditation of requesters

·         EPDP Phase 2 Recommendation #2: Accreditation of government entities

·         Expressed uncertainty over the effectiveness and trade-offs in removing accreditation during the RDRS pilot.

·         SC Members suggested distributed accreditation via trusted umbrella entities (e.g., FBI, Europol) rather than a centralized ICANN-managed system.

·         Proposed direct interaction between registrars and accredited requesters, bypassing ICANN.

·         SC Members proposed use of SAML tokens for identity assertions.

·         Suggested that identity providers attest to member identities without ICANN managing every requester.

·         SC Members asked for clarity on what authentication adds for different requester types.

·         Suggested collecting data-driven lessons from RDRS and reflecting on whether authentication improved request handling.

·         SC Members pointed to the NIS2 directive:

·         Authentication confirms identity.

·         Authorization decides disclosure rights.

·         Suggested keeping terminology clear and separating identity from data access rights.

3. AOB

·         No meeting on 26 May due to Public Holiday