Attendees:
Sub-group Members: Alan Greenberg, Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Herb Waye, Julf Helsingius, Lito Ibarra, Lori Schulman (7)
Staff: Bernard Turcotte, Laena Rahim, Tristana Webster, Yvette Guigneaux
Apologies:
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Recording
Agenda
- Attendance
- Changes to SOI
- Discussion of Draft Report
- Submit Draft Report to ICANN Legal for Temperature Check?
- AOB
Notes
1. Attendance
Lori Schulman: no one on phone only.
2. Changes to SOI
Lori Schulman (none)
3. Discussion of Draft Report
Lori Schulman: Will go through the report and discuss the two remaining open questions. No comments on ES, no objections on section II.
Alan Greenberg: Section 1.4 re available vs and or / applicable. Heading for 2 instead of “shall develop” should be “shall have”. 2 D and E - not associated with a specific SOAC just saying multiples can collaborate - we need procedures for community powers that require multiple SOAC collaboration.
Lori Schulman: Good point will bring it up in Plenary prep meeting.
Alan Greenberg: SSR review is an example of the collegial approach not working very well for these types of things.
Lori Schulman: Forms and Procedures should be a recommendation from this group. Onto the second question - should apply to all types of discussions (beyond director removal). Argument for it would say that it is good practice and should be used. Argument against it is that this was for a very specific procedure therefore expanding.
Alan Greenberg: Not a bad suggestion but not critical.
Lori Schulman: could recommend but community would decide.
Bernard Turcotte: would recommend separating recommendations that are clearly in scope vs those that are not. Reminder of 2 readings rules and the timing of the various plenaries.
Alan Greenberg: this version does not need to be an official first reading by the plenary - could go to ICANN Legal at same time.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ok with this approach.
Lori Schulman: Will try to have next version tonight - regardless we will get a version out tomorrow for initial comments by the plenary - the Guidelines group could then consider these comments at its next meeting on 18th and have it ready for an official first reading on 25 January plenary.
4. Submit Draft Report to ICANN Legal for Temperature Check?
Lori Schulman: No objection to sending to ICANN legal for comments. Will proceed with this.
5. AOB
Lori Schulman: none - Adjourned.
Action Items
Documents Presented
W2 Guidelines Draft Report v1 (003) -- ls redline.pdf
Chat Transcript
Yvette Guigneaux: (1/9/2017 09:37) Welcome all to the Guidelines for Good Faith Subgroup Meeting #7 | 09 January @ 19:00 UTC!
Yvette Guigneaux: (09:37) **If you are not speaking, please kindly mute your phones - *6 (star six) to unmute
Herb Waye Ombuds: (11:00) Hi Yvette, I will mute my mic but now you won't be able to listen to Willie Nelson in the background... Happy New Year everyone
Yvette Guigneaux: (11:00) hi Herb....awwww, we love Willie - thanks for the update, LOL
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:02) hello all
Herb Waye Ombuds: (11:02) HI
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:02) happy new year
Yvette Guigneaux: (11:03) Happy New Year All =)
Julf Helsingius: (11:04) I still don't have any objections :)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:04) no problem to edit
Yvette Guigneaux: (11:04) scrolling available if needed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:04) agree less can be more
Julf Helsingius: (11:04) I think it is refreshingly brief and to the point
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:05) indeed July
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:06) auto correct sticks again.... U
Julf Helsingius: (11:06) :)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:06) sorry
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:08) cqan you repeat alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:09) available /applicable? they're slightly different
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:09) thanks
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:11) good point AG
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:13) so recommendation to develop a Economic set of principles / Procedures to implement the new Powers
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:13) wider than our topic
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:16) Economic above is also an auto correct GRRR should be Empowered Community
Julf Helsingius: (11:18) I agree
Yvette Guigneaux: (11:18) Lito has a hand up
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:19) hand up
Lito Ibarra: (11:19) Sorry. I meant to agree
Lito Ibarra: (11:20) Not a hand up
Yvette Guigneaux: (11:21) Sorry Lito - i thought you had your hand up but it was agreement instead, apologies =)
Lito Ibarra: (11:24) It's ok, Yvette. My mistake.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:26) good to go as draft to the Plenary of CCWG IMO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:28) online call with next draft as good to go. IMO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:36) yup I will be in the planning meeting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:37) good time line
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:39) excellent
Julf Helsingius: (11:39) Thank you!
avri doria: (11:39) bye
Herb Waye Ombuds: (11:39) Good bye all
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (11:39) bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:39) thx Lori bye for now
Lori Schulman: (11:40) cio
Lori Schulman: (11:40) ciAO