Sub-group Members: Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Farzaneh Badii, Jorge Villa, Kavouss Arasteh, Sebastien Bachollet, Sivasubramanian M, Steve Del Bianco, Tom Dale
Staff: Karen Mulberry, Yvette Guigneaux
Apologies: Alan Greenberg, Greg Shatan
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Word Doc
Recording
Agenda
0. Call Administration (2 min CLO)
1. Review of any AI's from call #22 on February 23rd (2 min) CLO) see https://community.icann.org/x/7pvRAw[community.icann.org]
Action Items:
- Everyone to go through the document when they get it, vs doing it on the call, and have proper comments for the call.
- All, please advise the rapporteurs if you will be present at the face to face meeting in Copenhagen so we can plan the presentation of our document.
2. Any Updates: (3 min CLO )
3. Discussion, current DRAFT documentations readings and review. (45 min FB/SdB)
a) Review and discuss (as 2nd reading for the WT) the Consolidated Draft Report - (40-55 mins SDB) Intention is for a clean version of this draft to be sent to the CCWG for discussion at the Copenhagen meeting on March 10th after our meeting/discussion.
Further to Version 1.3 being distributed for your review by Steve Del Bianco on March 1st with mark up copy of word doc and PDF docs/PDF for version 1.3, dated 28-Feb-2017:
With added previously provided responses from the RSSAC.
Added a mention of the Bylaws required independent review of AC/Sos other than the GAC. (page 3)
Added a placeholder for Executive Summary (Draft proposed text for ES will be reviewed in our meeting)
see the Google Doc Draft 1.3 at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WppuLbVxfrRBx09hyDVYwj_yeyW78M7esiSv9InmK8U/edit?usp=sharing[docs.google.com]
4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule (2 min CLO)
10 March full day CCWG Face to Face at ICANN #58 Copenhagen
23rd March 0500 UTC
30th March 1300 UTC
see Master Schedule at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qwr41BesyvDQBnqF_gBQlHfJlRkOGrjHa26iFYU41ac/edit#gid=447458853[docs.google.com]
5. AOB and review of any AI's. (3 min CLO)
Notes (including relevant parts of chat)
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Yvette Guigneaux: (3/1/2017 18:41) Welcome all to the SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #23 | 2 March 2017 @ 05:00 UTC!
Yvette Guigneaux: (20:55) hello everyone
Yvette Guigneaux: (20:55) Kavouss - do you need a dial out?
Kavouss Arasteh: (20:55) Yevette Hi
Kavouss Arasteh: (20:55) Pls note that I am waiting to be dialed up
Yvette Guigneaux: (20:56) doing it right now sir =)
Kavouss Arasteh: (20:59) THANKS CONNECTED
Steve DelBianco: (21:00) Yvette and Karen -- do you have the PDF that Farzaneh circulated most recently?
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:01) hi Steve - i have the one that Farzaneh sent - was there more then one?
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:02) Cheryl , pls note that apart from co rapporteurs only 5 persons attening the call
Steve DelBianco: (21:02) that's the one
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:02) copy that
avri doria: (21:05) will be there
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:07) draft on screen - scrolling available if need be
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:09) Yes we need to circulate a clean version of our Draft to the CCWG on or before March 3rd...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:10) I suspect so Steve and that is OK for us to add their responses in when or if we get it
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:11) test
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:11) hmmm what I am typing is not appearing in at least my chat my connectivity is low/ compromised
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:12) we hear and see you just fine Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:14) I have recinnected it's n doubt o my end AC is showing orange now not red re connectivity as it wa before :-(
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:15) pls advise, where the Draft Rec. are tabled
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:15) page 6 - on screen
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:15) Page 6 onscreen you al have scroll control
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:16) I agree headers will be useful Steve YES
Farzaneh Badii: (21:16) I think little headers is a great idea
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:17) We will need to update the Exec Sumarry as well Steve from 21 Practices to 24
Steve DelBianco: (21:18) Got it Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:20) Good point to pick up in the Exec Summ Yes Steve
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:21) Some WT's may recmend bylaw changes we do not see any in our work outcomes
Karen Mulberry: (21:26) All WS2 items will be maintained on the WS2 wiki page
Karen Mulberry: (21:27) Just like all WS1 items and the final report are retained on that wiki page
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:28) Thx Karen well noted
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:29) that souds good to report the case in the Ex. Sum
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:30) sounds
Farzaneh Badii: (21:31) yes
Steve DelBianco: (21:31) SO and ACs provide an annual report on what they have done during the year to enhance their accountability and where they might have fallen short and what they did to overcome it.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:32) Seems good to me
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:32) AGree to add
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:32) yes Sec 1
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:34) hmmm
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:34) sounds heavy work for limited reward to me
Farzaneh Badii: (21:35) that's true :)
Farzaneh Badii: (21:37) yes we have to be careful. true. sounds like too much work
Steve DelBianco: (21:37) 5. SO/AC/Subgroups should publish an annual report on what they have done during the prior year to improve accountability, transparency, and participation, describing where they might have fallen short and what they plan for future improvements.
Steve DelBianco: (21:37) Farzi -- I just re-phrased the annual report suggestion (above). Is that good for you?
Farzaneh Badii: (21:37) yes thank you Steve
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:39) At this stage I think oublishing reports annually will be inspiration enough ;-)
Farzaneh Badii: (21:39) that's fine. no one wants to get an accountability award :)
Sebastien (ALAC): (21:40) Frazi you wil get one with your co-rapporteur ;)
Farzaneh Badii: (21:40) :)))
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:40) on screen
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:41) scrolling available if needed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:41) :-) Seb
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:42) Agree Steve...
Farzaneh Badii: (21:44) we have 25 "best practices" now
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:44) Noted Farzi and a good number that is :-)
Farzaneh Badii: (21:44) :)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:46) indeed Steve
Steve DelBianco: (21:49) I am wondering how we should report our percentage complete, for purposes of the dashboard...
Steve DelBianco: (21:49) Annex listing participants and number of meetings?
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:51) Was my suggestion to cross reference SO /AC and sub groups cross referenced
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:51) I was using the percentages as outlined by the Dashboard is set up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:52) I beleive some of that is in the dashbord anyway
avri doria: (21:56) such a reference in an exec summary seems unusual, but it is not the end of the world.
Steve DelBianco: (21:57) I will add a reference to page 4
Steve DelBianco: (21:57) Am just too tired to argue about this
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:58) It was a legitimate suggestion to simply add : See Page 4 OR as listed in page 4.
avri doria: (21:58) Steve that has become my approach to so many things in this process.
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:58) I insist to this course of actzion to be taken
Steve DelBianco: (22:00) Note that I will add a reference to list on page 4 to the Exec Summary.
Farzaneh Badii: (22:00) oh we are done for awhile
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:00) tks Steve
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:00) safe travels everyone =)
avri doria: (22:00) bye, and happy travels
Farzaneh Badii: (22:00) I won't make it. everyone safe travels
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:00) see you in Copenhagen
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:01) you will be missed Farzaneh
Karen Mulberry: (22:01) Take care! Thank you all
Farzaneh Badii: (22:01) Thank you Yvette