Attendees
Members:
Participants:
Legal Counsel:
Staff: Adam Peake, Alice Jansen, Berry Cobb, Kim Carlson
Apologies: Giovanni Seppia, Martin Boyle
**Please let Kim know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
Transcript
Recording
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Proposed Agenda
1. Welcome, Roll Call & SOI
2. Agenda for the CCWG working session Friday 19 June (Buenos Aires)
3. Feedback on the legal advice for governments
4. AoB
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Alan Greenberg, Alice Munyua, Athina Fragkouli, Becky Burr, Cheryl Langdon Orr, Eberhard Lisse, Izumi Okutani, Jordan Carter, Jorge Villa, Julia Wolman,Leon Sanchez, Mathieu Weill, Olga Calavalli, Par Brumark, Robin Gross, Roelof Meijer, Sebastien Bachollet, Steve DelBianco, Thomas Rickert, Tijani Ben Jemaa (20)
Participants: Andrew Harris, Avri Doria, Damien Coudeville, David McAuley, Finn Petersen, Greg Shatan, Jonathan Zuck, Keith Drazek, Konstantinos Komaitis, Phil Buckingham, Sabine Meyer, Yasuichi Kitamura (12)
Legal Counsel: Edward McNicholas, Holly Gregory, Josh Hofheimer, Michael Clark, Rosemary Fei, Stephanie Petit, Tyler Hilton (7)
Staff: Alice Jansen, Berry Cobb,Hillary Jett, Kim Carlson
Apologies: Giovanni Seppia, Martin Boyle
**Please let Kim know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**
Transcript
Transcript CCWG ACCT #37 16 June 2015.pdf
Transcript CCWG ACCT #37 16 June 2015.doc
Recording
The Adobe Connect recording is available here: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p9lnvfo9jiy/
The audio recording is available here: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ccwg-acct-16jun15-en.mp3
Proposed Agenda
1. Welcome, Roll Call & SOI
2. Agenda for the CCWG working session Friday 19 June (Buenos Aires)
3. Feedback on the legal advice for governments
4. AoB
Notes
NOTES & ACTION ITEMS:
These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript.
Thomas Rickert, Greg Shatan are on phone only.
Reminder to update your SoI per Charter requirements.
Agenda for CCWG working session - 19 June
Goals for this meeting:
1. Agree on assessment of comments and drafting responses
2. Define key message for community engagement
3 Refine working methods in anticipation of public comment period #2
Reading list will include WPs' documents.
Freeze deadline is today - 23:59 UTC.
WPs are currently summarizing comments. It will be key substance for the 19 June meeting. We will identify items which require further discussion. We would like to try holding a debate on enforceability, cooperative model vs. membership model. Call for volunteers: supporter for cooperative approach (internal Bylaws) and vice versa. Objective is to obtain better understanding of perspectives.
This meeting will also be opportunity to start reflection on response to NTIA letter
We will prepare for set of meetings we have scheduled and agree on messaging.
- Request to change layout of debate and title - set of tools and options can be considered. Sebastien volunteers for agenda item #4
ACTION ITEM Clarify title of agenda item #4
- Presentation of perspectives - we should not be polarizing the debate
ACTION ITEM: Staff/CoChairs to finalize 19 June agenda
Deadline for documents is 23:59 UTC
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Feedback on the legal advice
Is it mandatory to file the statement with the State Department for forming UA: answer no, recommend as evidence, we do file, but not mandatory.
Filing fees are $25 dollars
Question - Obligation UA reports, or assemblies, administrative issues, structures they need to fulfill.
UAs have no obligation of informing anyone about their activities unless they are active.
Question with regards to taxation: other duties that may be required by law to be fulffilled - answer: no obligation to file any tax declaration unless UA had economical activities – subject to filing tax declarations as needed.
No intention of looking into multiple jurisdictions
Any UA would be an envelope carrying the message to enforce powers.
Consequences need to be considered.
Can we have a membership organization where SO/ACs are indicated to be members in Bylaws without having them be a legal entity? Would it be an illegal construct?
--> It is not possible. As a threshold, members must be a legal person
- What enforceability means and how it would be used in practice.
- Suggestion to stop discussion and to discuss all 3 options in BA once we have big picture.
- ACTION ITEM: Read legal counsel's memos in preparation for Buenos Aires
- We need to look at requirements - how requirements are different according to models and prioritize based on that. Think deeply about underlying requirements as that will be key for the debate.
- Idea that building something to handle worst behaviors. We need to assume that people are not doing what they need to do.
- How can we ensure the person is following SO/AC instructions?
AOB
- We have reached out to all SO/ACs - we have responded to all requests and have not turned down any requests. It is still possible to accommodate requests.
- Worry about the number of lawyers that we have participating in calls and the money that is being spent. 1 from each firm is enough.
ACTION ITEM: Cochairs to sit down with firms in BA to clarify process going forward to manage costs.
Action Items
ACTION ITEM Clarify title of agenda item #4
ACTION ITEM: Staff/CoChairs to finalize 19 June agenda
ACTION ITEM: Read legal counsel's memos in preparation for Buenos Aires
ACTION ITEM: Cochairs to sit down with firms in BA to clarify process going forward to manage costs
Chat transcript
Kimberly Carlson: (6/15/2015 17:13) Welcome to CCWG Accountability Meeting #37 on 16 June! Please note that chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards
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